"Dragon Ball Super" Series Official Announcement & Discussion Thread

Discussion specifically regarding the "Dragon Ball Super" TV series premiering July 2015 in Japan, including individual threads for each episode.

Moderators: General Help, Kanzenshuu Staff

User avatar
dbzfan7
Namekian Warrior
Posts: 13045
Joined: Sat Aug 04, 2012 3:55 am
Location: Earth
Contact:

Re: "Dragon Ball Super" Official Announcement & Discussion Thread

Post by dbzfan7 » Sat Feb 17, 2018 1:17 pm

Doctor. wrote:Toriyama literally recolored his own SSG illustration, you cannot make this up.
I know right :lol:. Looks like all those complaints from years back were right all along.

But anyways I dig the color and new form. Toriyama's is utter shite, but the anime version is much better with the messier look. Wow even the anime staff realized how awful Toriyama's design was and just did it themselves.
Why Dragon Ball Consistency in something such as power levels matter!

User avatar
OverHeaven
Beyond Newbie
Posts: 207
Joined: Fri Jul 07, 2017 3:02 pm
Location: SA

Re: "Dragon Ball Super" Official Announcement & Discussion Thread

Post by OverHeaven » Sat Feb 17, 2018 1:18 pm

Image
I was disappointed and angry at first, but it didn't take me seconds to get over it. Instead, it's probably better to just laugh at how absolute trash and sad this is.
I mean, just look at this:
[spoiler]ImageImage[/spoiler]http://www.letmegooglethat.com/?q=Goku+White+hair

The recolors memes for new DBS forms are not something new obviously, it started with Battle of Gods and look how many fan arts transformations are canon now. So I'm really surprised that Akira still has the balls to continue this trashy trend without getting embarrassed and I'm sure he knows about the memes, and also that anime staff is accepting this with every single cell of their brains.

Fans who were trashing the Gohan Blanco meme and criticizing whoever use it should like it's something very stupid should feel embarrassed too.

I'm not even joking, I'd take this over any of these shitty forms at anytime
[spoiler]Image[/spoiler]

What is even sadder is that there are many people who'll probably defend this and say things like "this fanbase never stop crying at every little thing"
Also, Ultra Instinct was perfect as it was. One of the few things done right in Super but of course, let's ruin it why not.
Bonus:
[spoiler]Image[/spoiler]
Last edited by OverHeaven on Sat Feb 17, 2018 1:24 pm, edited 1 time in total.

User avatar
Marlowe89
Banned Alternate Account
Posts: 1926
Joined: Thu Apr 02, 2015 8:30 pm

Re: "Dragon Ball Super" Official Announcement & Discussion Thread

Post by Marlowe89 » Sat Feb 17, 2018 1:19 pm

Dbzfan94 wrote: It''s better than everything that came after it for sure.
Certainly not in my opinion. Super Saiyan Blue is probably my least favorite DBS form, and even that looks better than Super Saiyan 4 if you ask me.

Dbzfan94
Born 'n Bred Here
Posts: 5676
Joined: Mon Dec 16, 2013 5:16 pm
Location: Mt. Paozu

Re: "Dragon Ball Super" Official Announcement & Discussion Thread

Post by Dbzfan94 » Sat Feb 17, 2018 1:20 pm

HeroR wrote:
Dbzfan94 wrote:
HeroR wrote:
Except Super Saiyan 4 isn't a good design.
It''s better than everything that came after it for sure.
Not a chance in hell. I take recolors over the pink monkey any day of the week.
Well that's where we differ so lets agree to disagree

HeroR
Kicks it Old-School
Posts: 8306
Joined: Sun Feb 28, 2016 11:28 pm

Re: "Dragon Ball Super" Official Announcement & Discussion Thread

Post by HeroR » Sat Feb 17, 2018 1:21 pm

Krillin1994 wrote:So is this us finally seeing the form that Toriyama didn't want to have clash with Frieza's white?

I recall there being a load of comments about a white haired SSJ form at the time. People assumed Merged Zamasu was this, but had Toriyama planned this design long ago?
Silver, not white.
Kanassa wrote:
precita wrote:Goku will still be around but take a Buu saga approach backseat.
Goku barely took a backseat in the Buu saga, at best he took a leisurely stroll round back while everyone else cried for him to come back.

User avatar
Krillin1994
Regular
Posts: 736
Joined: Sun Apr 12, 2015 6:14 am

Re: "Dragon Ball Super" Official Announcement & Discussion Thread

Post by Krillin1994 » Sat Feb 17, 2018 1:22 pm

HeroR wrote:
Krillin1994 wrote:So is this us finally seeing the form that Toriyama didn't want to have clash with Frieza's white?

I recall there being a load of comments about a white haired SSJ form at the time. People assumed Merged Zamasu was this, but had Toriyama planned this design long ago?
Silver, not white.
Yeah but silvery white. Is this not too much of a coincidence? especially with Toriyama's drawing of the form being SSJG like.

HeroR
Kicks it Old-School
Posts: 8306
Joined: Sun Feb 28, 2016 11:28 pm

Re: "Dragon Ball Super" Official Announcement & Discussion Thread

Post by HeroR » Sat Feb 17, 2018 1:24 pm

OverHeaven wrote:Image
I was disappointed and angry at first, but it didn't take me seconds to get over it. Instead, it's probably better to just laugh at how absolute trash and sad this is.
I mean, just look at this:
[spoiler]ImageImage[/spoiler]http://www.letmegooglethat.com/?q=Goku+White+hair

The recolors memes for new DBS forms are not something new obviously, it started with Battle of Gods and look how many fan arts transformations are canon now. So I'm really surprised that Akira still has the balls to continue this trashy trend without getting embarrassed and I'm sure he knows about the memes, and also that anime staff is accepting this with every single cell of their brains.

Fans who were trashing the Gohan Blanco meme and criticizing whoever use it should feel like it's something very stupid should feel embarrassed too.

I'm not even joking, I'd take this over any of these shitty forms at anytime
[spoiler]Image[/spoiler]

What is even sadder is that there are many people who'll probably defend this and say things like "this fanbase never stop crying at every little thing"
Also, Ultra Instinct was perfect as it was. One of the few things done right in Super but of course, let's ruin it why not.
Bonus:
[spoiler]Image[/spoiler]
People didn't trashed Gohan Blanco for his design. They trashed it for how stupid the premise of him getting it was and the whole overhyping Gohan. And Toriyama never cared what fans think and in fact, he purpose does things to annoyed the like killing off their favorite characters.
Kanassa wrote:
precita wrote:Goku will still be around but take a Buu saga approach backseat.
Goku barely took a backseat in the Buu saga, at best he took a leisurely stroll round back while everyone else cried for him to come back.

User avatar
The gr
I Live Here
Posts: 2856
Joined: Sat Dec 10, 2016 9:58 pm

Re: "Dragon Ball Super" Official Announcement & Discussion Thread

Post by The gr » Sat Feb 17, 2018 1:28 pm

This form will look better when it's animated.
Mostly active on discord.

User avatar
dbzfan7
Namekian Warrior
Posts: 13045
Joined: Sat Aug 04, 2012 3:55 am
Location: Earth
Contact:

Re: "Dragon Ball Super" Official Announcement & Discussion Thread

Post by dbzfan7 » Sat Feb 17, 2018 1:31 pm

Dbzfan94 wrote:It''s better than everything that came after it for sure.
I definitely agree. Super Saiyan 4 pretty much was better than everything that came after it. Though it's not like its competition was tough what with just recolors and all that.
Why Dragon Ball Consistency in something such as power levels matter!

User avatar
Doctor.
Banned
Posts: 10558
Joined: Sat Jul 26, 2014 10:02 am
Location: Portugal

Re: "Dragon Ball Super" Official Announcement & Discussion Thread

Post by Doctor. » Sat Feb 17, 2018 1:31 pm

[spoiler]Image[/spoiler]

It was all a part of his master plan: crashing this show... with no survivors.

User avatar
sunsetshimmer
I Live Here
Posts: 2164
Joined: Sun Dec 24, 2017 4:34 pm
Location: Poland/Equestria

Re: "Dragon Ball Super" Official Announcement & Discussion Thread

Post by sunsetshimmer » Sat Feb 17, 2018 1:32 pm

HeroR wrote: Not a chance in hell. I take recolors over the pink monkey any day of the week.
No matter how much you hate SSJ4, this form will always make more sense than any DBS form.
Saiyans are monkeys, not gods.
SSJ4 is also much more original and that's a fact, not opinion.
"I will concede that your feelings are worthy of the mightiest of Saiyans. However, there is more to my power than just this. Before you die, I will show it to you. This is the difference in power, between the primitive Saiyans and the evolved Tsufruians." ~Baby Vegeta

User avatar
RedHeat
Regular
Posts: 651
Joined: Fri May 05, 2017 11:55 pm

Re: "Dragon Ball Super" Official Announcement & Discussion Thread

Post by RedHeat » Sat Feb 17, 2018 1:35 pm

sunsetshimmer wrote:
HeroR wrote: Not a chance in hell. I take recolors over the pink monkey any day of the week.
No matter how much you hate SSJ4, this form will always make more sense than any DBS form.
Saiyans are monkeys, not gods.
SSJ4 is also much more original and that's a fact, not opinion.
Nah, UI (Omen) is more original and makes the most sense.
Feels over Reals.

User avatar
Hawk9211
OMG CRAZY REGEN
Posts: 812
Joined: Wed Aug 09, 2017 11:23 am

Re: "Dragon Ball Super" Official Announcement & Discussion Thread

Post by Hawk9211 » Sat Feb 17, 2018 1:36 pm

sunsetshimmer wrote:
HeroR wrote: Not a chance in hell. I take recolors over the pink monkey any day of the week.
No matter how much you hate SSJ4, this form will always make more sense than any DBS form.
Saiyans are monkeys, not gods.
SSJ4 is also much more original and that's a fact, not opinion.
In any case,you might have missed that saiyans stopped being monkeys in the arc they were introduced and super is about surpassing the gods.Not to mention ssj4 is power up like every other form.
Why power levels are important?
The genre and roots of dragon ball

User avatar
Doctor.
Banned
Posts: 10558
Joined: Sat Jul 26, 2014 10:02 am
Location: Portugal

Re: "Dragon Ball Super" Official Announcement & Discussion Thread

Post by Doctor. » Sat Feb 17, 2018 1:38 pm

RedHeat wrote:
sunsetshimmer wrote:
HeroR wrote: Not a chance in hell. I take recolors over the pink monkey any day of the week.
No matter how much you hate SSJ4, this form will always make more sense than any DBS form.
Saiyans are monkeys, not gods.
SSJ4 is also much more original and that's a fact, not opinion.
Nah, UI (Omen) is more original and makes the most sense.
A technique changing Goku's physical appearance when it doesn't do the same for Beerus and Whis doesn't make sense.

User avatar
Kenneth La Torre
I'm, pretty, cozy, here...
Posts: 1604
Joined: Tue Nov 14, 2017 9:38 pm
Location: Florida

Re: "Dragon Ball Super" Official Announcement & Discussion Thread

Post by Kenneth La Torre » Sat Feb 17, 2018 1:40 pm

Doctor. wrote:
RedHeat wrote:
sunsetshimmer wrote:
No matter how much you hate SSJ4, this form will always make more sense than any DBS form.
Saiyans are monkeys, not gods.
SSJ4 is also much more original and that's a fact, not opinion.
Nah, UI (Omen) is more original and makes the most sense.
A technique changing Goku's physical appearance when it doesn't do the same for Beerus and Whis doesn't make sense.
Well, if your read from the image, it’s actually gokus ultimate FORM. So it’s a transformation that grants him UI on the levels of the angels (it is perfected UI)

User avatar
Totamo
I'm, pretty, cozy, here...
Posts: 1885
Joined: Sun Nov 13, 2016 9:24 pm

Re: "Dragon Ball Super" Official Announcement & Discussion Thread

Post by Totamo » Sat Feb 17, 2018 1:41 pm

sunsetshimmer wrote:
HeroR wrote: Not a chance in hell. I take recolors over the pink monkey any day of the week.
No matter how much you hate SSJ4, this form will always make more sense than any DBS form.
Saiyans are monkeys, not gods.
SSJ4 is also much more original and that's a fact, not opinion.
What? Then why was super saiyan 1 just a hair color change and had nothing to do with monkeys?

User avatar
Totamo
I'm, pretty, cozy, here...
Posts: 1885
Joined: Sun Nov 13, 2016 9:24 pm

Re: "Dragon Ball Super" Official Announcement & Discussion Thread

Post by Totamo » Sat Feb 17, 2018 1:42 pm

Doctor. wrote:
RedHeat wrote:
sunsetshimmer wrote:
No matter how much you hate SSJ4, this form will always make more sense than any DBS form.
Saiyans are monkeys, not gods.
SSJ4 is also much more original and that's a fact, not opinion.
Nah, UI (Omen) is more original and makes the most sense.
A technique changing Goku's physical appearance when it doesn't do the same for Beerus and Whis doesn't make sense.
It makes sense from a marketing standpoint besides they don't treat it as a technique in the show or on merchandise. Even in this magazine, they call it a form.


Ultra Instinct is both. The question is why are the both.
Last edited by Totamo on Sat Feb 17, 2018 1:46 pm, edited 1 time in total.

User avatar
Shounen
Beyond Newbie
Posts: 135
Joined: Sat Jul 14, 2012 12:28 pm
Location: Poland
Contact:

Re: "Dragon Ball Super" Official Announcement & Discussion Thread

Post by Shounen » Sat Feb 17, 2018 1:43 pm

sintzu wrote:
Ki Breaker wrote:
Doctor. wrote:Toriyama literally recolored his own SSG illustration, you cannot make this up.
What?
Look at them, you can barely make out they are the same person
[spoiler]ImageImage[/spoiler]
Barely make out they're the same ? the only slight difference is the look on his face but everything else form the hair, clothes and body is the exact same copy paste from his SsjG design.
Not really "copy paste." https://twitter.com/AnimeAjay/status/964914821312532480

HeroR
Kicks it Old-School
Posts: 8306
Joined: Sun Feb 28, 2016 11:28 pm

Re: "Dragon Ball Super" Official Announcement & Discussion Thread

Post by HeroR » Sat Feb 17, 2018 1:43 pm

sunsetshimmer wrote:
HeroR wrote: Not a chance in hell. I take recolors over the pink monkey any day of the week.
No matter how much you hate SSJ4, this form will always make more sense than any DBS form.
Saiyans are monkeys, not gods.
SSJ4 is also much more original and that's a fact, not opinion.
It really doesn't outside of making Goku look more ape. Even then, it doesn't explained why Goku's fur looks like a vest and why he keeps his pants. And Goku is based on the 'Monkey King' who became a god.

Being original doesn't mean better.
Kanassa wrote:
precita wrote:Goku will still be around but take a Buu saga approach backseat.
Goku barely took a backseat in the Buu saga, at best he took a leisurely stroll round back while everyone else cried for him to come back.

User avatar
FortuneSSJ
Born 'n Bred Here
Posts: 5812
Joined: Sat Mar 30, 2013 9:07 pm

Re: "Dragon Ball Super" Official Announcement & Discussion Thread

Post by FortuneSSJ » Sat Feb 17, 2018 1:46 pm

sunsetshimmer wrote:
HeroR wrote: Not a chance in hell. I take recolors over the pink monkey any day of the week.
No matter how much you hate SSJ4, this form will always make more sense than any DBS form.
The fur is okay, but forms that come out with new pants and boots don't make much sense.

-Edit-

Never mind. :lol:
Last edited by FortuneSSJ on Sat Feb 17, 2018 1:50 pm, edited 2 times in total.
A world without Dragon Ball is just meh.

Post Reply