"Dragon Ball Super" Series Official Announcement & Discussion Thread

[Michsi]

I'm going to laugh so hard that I'd cry if they just throw a shitty Buu Kai version of the 1986 series in the 9AM slot for six months.

Heh, Toei acknowledging the original DB series would actually impress me at this point.

[DBZ_Lee]

Could it be possible that Toei recruited some of the freelancers that worked on Super originally to work in the new department, and gave them contracts?. They did restructure after the first series finished airing.
I will say, the signs at this point don't look good.

[IntangibleFancy]

The part where it should be different is the director. The 2 directors of the saga of the tournament of power are busy. Ryota Nakamura will be the director of Dragon Quest

That's wrong and we still don't know where he's been since the end of super. Kazuya karasawa is the director of Dragon Quest

there's no Super series coming this year unless it's outsourced and they kill Heroes. There literally aren't any staff left. Bye bye dreams.

I have no business experience, but reducing Dragon Ball to nothing but monthly content from the manga and SDBH can't be a good marketing strategy can't it?. Especially when a gazillion shows are being revived/renewed and set to air later next year (even Bakugan got revived)


Am I just underestimating DBH and the manga's popularity or does Toei really believe they're both enough to hold us over until the movie?

[DBZ_Lee]

That's wrong and we still don't know where he's been since the end of super. Kazuya karasawa is the director of Dragon Quest

there's no Super series coming this year unless it's outsourced and they kill Heroes. There literally aren't any staff left. Bye bye dreams.

I have no business experience, but reducing Dragon Ball to nothing but monthly content from the manga and SDBH can't be a good marketing strategy can't it?. Especially when a gazillion shows are being revived/renewed and set to air later next year (even Bakugan got revived)


Am I just underestimating DBH and the manga's popularity or does Toei really believe they're both enough to hold us over until the movie?

The whole thing is odd, but with merchandise selling well, I guess they aren't in a hurry to produce more episodes/movies.
The demand is overwhelming however, though it's unknown as to when DBH may finish. This could be on purpose to throw us off - if it finished in January, there would be a team readily in place to produce Super episodes, and have proven themselves more than capable.
Don't forget that departmental restructure though.

[PremiumSalt]

I'm going to laugh so hard that I'd cry if they just throw a shitty Buu Kai version of the 1986 series in the 9AM slot for six months.

Meh, a part of me wants this to happen so FUNimation has an excuse to re dub that part of the show. Mind you, I'd prefer more Super, but still.

[MeMeDZEHH]

The part where it should be different is the director. The 2 directors of the saga of the tournament of power are busy. Ryota Nakamura will be the director of Dragon Quest

That's wrong and we still don't know where he's been since the end of super. Kazuya karasawa is the director of Dragon Quest

Correct on the Dragon Quest front - Karasawa is directing. Though we know where Nakamura was - he was an assistant director on One Piece Stampede. Dunno where he's gone now, though.

There are some other regular Super staff on DQ in a major role, too. Shintani isn't the character designer, I can say that much, though. Doesn't mean he isn't working on it, but yeah, he's not in a major role that I'm aware of.

But yeah, there's no Super series coming this year unless it's outsourced and they kill Heroes. There literally aren't any staff left. Bye bye dreams.

Oh yes, i'm pretty sure DBS isn't returning soon, i'm just intrigued by that 9 AM slot. We know it's not DQ since it's coming in October and World Trigger is on a different channel. You have any info on that ?

[Scsigs]

I have no business experience, but reducing Dragon Ball to nothing but monthly content from the manga and SDBH can't be a good marketing strategy can't it?. Especially when a gazillion shows are being revived/renewed and set to air later next year (even Bakugan got revived)

Am I just underestimating DBH and the manga's popularity or does Toei really believe they're both enough to hold us over until the movie?

I mean, DB is around in other forms. Video games are also being made outside of Heroes. Hell, Xenoverse 2 just wrapped up its 3 years' wroth of DLCs & updates with 3 possibly beginning development soon, & Kakaort's coming out next month. Bandai tries to get at least 1 DB game out a year. Plus, there's the merch. And, we can expect another movie at some point in the next few years most likely. I wouldn't be surprised if we got a new DB series, whether it's Super part 2 or not, in the near future, but I'm pretty sure the marketing of the franchise is there.

[Lord Beerus]

I think Toei have realised they may have wrung the nostalgia well dry, in terms of modern Dragon Ball content, once Super became a thing and then ended. I also think Toei may have realised that the immense success of Super was such a gigantic fluke, that they feel they wouldn't be able to replicate that lighting in a bottle success organically.

Or....

They are just sitting on their butts waiting for Toriyama to come with some new material for them.

I really think the current arc in the Super manga isn't going to be adapted. I think the Dragon Ball room will want the manga to have its own unique material to have as a selling point, as supposed to originally being a advert for the anime and adapting material from it.

[Ajay]

Oh yes, i'm pretty sure DBS isn't returning soon, i'm just intrigued by that 9 AM slot. We know it's not DQ since it's coming in October and World Trigger is on a different channel. You have any info on that ?

Absolutely nothing, I'm afraid.

The thing is, Kitaro's one of those shows that can be extended at a moment's notice. Per one of the writers, they write a bunch of standalone episodes in advance, and just churn em out if need be. A certain Kitaro staff member mentioned that the series was due to end last year and got extended for another year, so if Toei want to push that bad boy on until October, then there's no reason they couldn't.

[Metalwario64]

What's got me so upset about all of this is that the voice actors aren't getting any younger.

If Toei keeps waiting and waiting and waiting to make more Dragon Ball Super/Whatever the next series would be called, then it could reach a point where important cast members are no longer able to work on the series.

I really don't want to see that happen.

[Scsigs]

I think Toei have realised they may have wrung the nostalgia well dry, in terms of modern Dragon Ball content, once Super became a thing and then ended. I also think Toei may have realised that the immense success of Super was such a gigantic fluke, that they feel they wouldn't be able to replicate that lighting in a bottle success organically.

Or....

They are just sitting on their butts waiting for Toriyama to come with some new material for them.

I really think the current arc in the Super manga isn't going to be adapted. I think the Dragon Ball room will want the manga to have its own unique material to have as a selling point, as supposed to originally being a advert for the anime and adapting material from it.

The more likely actual explanation being that Toei saw that they should give the anime another small rest & recoup their staff to work on other stuff. With people constantly complaining about the inconsistent animation & writing quality, I wouldn't be surprised if they wanted to give the series a rest for now.

[Lord Beerus]

What's got me so upset about all of this is that the voice actors aren't getting any younger.

If Toei keeps waiting and waiting and waiting to make more Dragon Ball Super/Whatever the next series would be called, then it could reach a point where important cast members are no longer able to work on the series.

I really don't want to see that happen.

That tragic scenario has already happened.

[JulieYBM]

Oh yes, i'm pretty sure DBS isn't returning soon, i'm just intrigued by that 9 AM slot. We know it's not DQ since it's coming in October and World Trigger is on a different channel. You have any info on that ?

Absolutely nothing, I'm afraid.

The thing is, Kitaro's one of those shows that can be extended at a moment's notice. Per one of the writers, they write a bunch of standalone episodes in advance, and just churn em out if need be. A certain Kitaro staff member mentioned that the series was due to end last year and got extended for another year, so if Toei want to push that bad boy on until October, then there's no reason they couldn't.

Ah, so they DO just sit on finished scripts. It's definitely worth the investment, even if they never go past the script stage.

[Sykin]

Oh yes, i'm pretty sure DBS isn't returning soon, i'm just intrigued by that 9 AM slot. We know it's not DQ since it's coming in October and World Trigger is on a different channel. You have any info on that ?

Absolutely nothing, I'm afraid.

The thing is, Kitaro's one of those shows that can be extended at a moment's notice. Per one of the writers, they write a bunch of standalone episodes in advance, and just churn em out if need be. A certain Kitaro staff member mentioned that the series was due to end last year and got extended for another year, so if Toei want to push that bad boy on until October, then there's no reason they couldn't.

Since you know way more about the production of these things than I do, do you think it's likely/possible that they just want Super to go on as a manga for the time being so they'll have something to adapt at a later date? They might want to have actual source material to go off of instead of the general napkin outlines they had from Toriyama. Perhaps that might make production in the future a tad bit easier since some version of the story already exists, even if it's not followed 1:1. Might just be better and/or easier to let interest and sales in the manga to be driven up while the DBH anime does its thing. Not sure.

[JulieYBM]

Not to speak for Ajay, but I sincerely doubt "they're waiting to adapt the comic" has anything to do with it. Like, their series directors and freelance writers do know how to create their own stories, after all. All the series director and head writer (likely Tomioka Atsuhiro) have to do is get Toriyama in a room or conference call for a couple of days to hash out a story outline (namely, Toriyama making sure he likes their ideas at all) and go from there.

The issues would more likely be a simply lack of planning for the greater franchise than anything else.

[Michsi]

Oh yes, i'm pretty sure DBS isn't returning soon, i'm just intrigued by that 9 AM slot. We know it's not DQ since it's coming in October and World Trigger is on a different channel. You have any info on that ?

Absolutely nothing, I'm afraid.

The thing is, Kitaro's one of those shows that can be extended at a moment's notice. Per one of the writers, they write a bunch of standalone episodes in advance, and just churn em out if need be. A certain Kitaro staff member mentioned that the series was due to end last year and got extended for another year, so if Toei want to push that bad boy on until October, then there's no reason they couldn't.

Ah, so they DO just sit on finished scripts. It's definitely worth the investment, even if they never go past the script stage.

Didn't they officially announce a little while ago that Kitaro is entering the final stretch? I believe that they could extend it if they wanted to, but I'd assume they'd already have thought about that 6 month period before they made that announcement.

[DBZ_Lee]

Didn't they officially announce a little while ago that Kitaro is entering the final stretch? I believe that they could extend it if they wanted to, but I'd assume they'd already have thought about that 6 month period before they made that announcement.

They did announce this run of Kitaro was entering its final Arc, but it's unknown as to how many cours it will last.
However, current home video listings suggest it will end in March for now, unless more sets are announced.

[Nanatsu88]

Sorry for the director's mistake. So right now Nakamura is free at least for what is known.

Toei has been broadcasting One Piece, Super, Digimon and Tiger Mask at the same time. And when I was broadcasting those 4 series at the same time, it was before the restructuring and transfer to the largest new offices that came out in the news. If at that time with worse conditions they have been able to get 4 series simultaneously with better facilities, more production time (Dragon Quest almost 1 year) and after having earned so much money with Stampide and especially Broly, I see that they can get a new one series.

In addition the production of the Digimon movie has to end shortly and the staff of Kitaro I guess it will go to series like World Trigger when it ends. As for SDBH, they should simply limit the work of animators such as Miyako Tsuji and leave Yamamuro with fewer animators as in the first episodes.

I believe that we should not give up the return until more chapters of Kitaro or the series that replace it are announced.

[IntangibleFancy]

If there aren't any staff left then does that mean no one is preparing for the new movie or is it being given to what's left of the SDBH staff? It just seems so odd that Toei just dropped the anime like it didn't even matter. Especially since so many things are getting brought from the dead and set to air next year/2021.


Doesn't Jump Festa have Q&As? There had to be at least one person that asked for details about the new movie/series.

[JulieYBM]

If there aren't any staff left then does that mean no one is preparing for the new movie or is it being given to what's left of the SDBH staff?

It means any storyline right now is being developed between Toriyama, Iyoku, and a producer at Toei Animation with no director chosen. A director will be chosen when somebody is available or at least closer to when production needs to begin in full, like with finalizing the script and starting storyboards.