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Wow, what it might be? Maybe they'll fix that Super Saiyan GOD is not really a permanent form?alakazam^ wrote:14 - During their battle, SSG Goku has an unexpected change.
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Fake.Bonus Stage wrote:It's real or fake?
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Oh God, it may be that I thought it'd be SSGSS.Noah wrote:Wow, what it might be? Maybe they'll fix that Super Saiyan GOD is not really a permanent form?alakazam^ wrote:14 - During their battle, SSG Goku has an unexpected change.
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Thank you, VegettoEX and Herms.Herms wrote: Fake.
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i think it'll be SSGSS, I mean what other options are there?Doctor. wrote:Oh God, it may be that I thought it'd be SSGSS.Noah wrote:Wow, what it might be? Maybe they'll fix that Super Saiyan GOD is not really a permanent form?alakazam^ wrote:14 - During their battle, SSG Goku has an unexpected change.
They are not going to introduce yet another form and obviously it has to fit in with RoF, so it's SSGSS or admittedly there is the option of changing it to Goku's base form to line it up with "Saiyan Beyond God."
That's what seems to be presented in all relevant RoF media, that doesn't come from Toriyama and it seems to line up with that game, that has Whis talk about how Goku can achieve a form greater than Super Saiyan God(SSGSS).
So basically:
SSGod < SBG < SSGSS.
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Pretty glad that Kuririn, Mr Satan, Pan and Jaco will have the spotlight for a bit. Curious how they will handle the birth of Pan, hopefully it will be sweet with Chi-Chi and Mr Satan participating. Goku part will probably be "she looks strong and healthy Gohan"; with a face deprived of emotion.
They better introduce Jaco properly, not everyone read the manga. Inserting him out of the blue, would leave me very disappointed. Great opportunity for some Jaco filler adventures, from the perspective of the alien himself.
They better introduce Jaco properly, not everyone read the manga. Inserting him out of the blue, would leave me very disappointed. Great opportunity for some Jaco filler adventures, from the perspective of the alien himself.
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It may be what Noah said, that Goku would lose the God power-up just like in Battle of Gods.dbgtFO wrote:i think it'll be SSGSS, I mean what other options are there?
They are not going to introduce yet another form and obviously it has to fit in with RoF, so it's SSGSS or admittedly there is the option of changing it to Goku's base form to line it up with "Saiyan Beyond God."
That's what seems to be presented in all relevant RoF media, that doesn't come from Toriyama and it seems to line up with that game, that has Whis talk about how Goku can achieve a form greater than Super Saiyan God(SSGSS).
So basically:
SSGod < SBG < SSGSS.
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I posted these on Twitter, but I guess I might as well put my summary translations up here too. They're hardly any different than what alakazam^ already posted.
13: "Super Saiyan God Son Goku and Beerus' super-fierce fight gets more and more intense!!"
14: "During his battle with Beerus, an unexpected change happens to Goku, who had been a Super Saiyan God...!?"
15: "After the battle with Beerus wraps up, a terrible visitor comes to Satan!?"
16: "With the battle over, one day Kuririn visits Goku. His unexpected request is...!?"
17: "Some time has passed on Earth. Gohan and Videl's daughter is finally born!!"
18: "Goku departs Earth and begins training under Whis. The surprising training method is...!?"
19: "Goku throws himself into training under Whis. Meanwhile in Hell, you-know-who suffers intense torment."
20: "An unprecedented threat bears down on Earth!! At this time, an old friend comes to visit Bulma...!?"
13: "Super Saiyan God Son Goku and Beerus' super-fierce fight gets more and more intense!!"
14: "During his battle with Beerus, an unexpected change happens to Goku, who had been a Super Saiyan God...!?"
15: "After the battle with Beerus wraps up, a terrible visitor comes to Satan!?"
16: "With the battle over, one day Kuririn visits Goku. His unexpected request is...!?"
17: "Some time has passed on Earth. Gohan and Videl's daughter is finally born!!"
18: "Goku departs Earth and begins training under Whis. The surprising training method is...!?"
19: "Goku throws himself into training under Whis. Meanwhile in Hell, you-know-who suffers intense torment."
20: "An unprecedented threat bears down on Earth!! At this time, an old friend comes to visit Bulma...!?"
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It could be both. He drops out of SSG, and when he tries to transform into SSJ again, he gets SSGSS. Which is what I think makes logical sense to have happened in BoG in retrospect, but given that form didn't exist when they made the movie, maybe they will fix it now.Doctor. wrote:Oh God, it may be that I thought it'd be SSGSS.Noah wrote:Wow, what it might be? Maybe they'll fix that Super Saiyan GOD is not really a permanent form?alakazam^ wrote:14 - During their battle, SSG Goku has an unexpected change.
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Seems like mostly downtime episodes (i.e. no Champa), as usual.Herms wrote:I posted these on Twitter, but I guess I might as well put my summary translations up here too. They're hardly any different than what alakazam^ already posted.
13: "Super Saiyan God Son Goku and Beerus' super-fierce fight gets more and more intense!!"
14: "During his battle with Beerus, an unexpected change happens to Goku, who had been a Super Saiyan God...!?"
15: "After the battle with Beerus wraps up, a terrible visitor comes to Satan!?"
16: "With the battle over, one day Kuririn visits Goku. His unexpected request is...!?"
17: "Some time has passed on Earth. Gohan and Videl's daughter is finally born!!"
18: "Goku departs Earth and begins training under Whis. The surprising training method is...!?"
19: "Goku throws himself into training under Whis. Meanwhile in Hell, you-know-who suffers intense torment."
20: "An unprecedented threat bears down on Earth!! At this time, an old friend comes to visit Bulma...!?"
Given how Super is, I see it doing a good job at coming up with appropriately ridiculous training regimes though. I'm excited to see more Whis on-screen. <3
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Yes but Tarble could be referring to first form Freeza, for all we know. Even if he wasn't, Piccolo could still take them both as well.FutureGohanSSJ2 wrote:But weren't Abo and Cado said to be on Freeza's level? I think that would make more sense than Shisame and Tagoma, merely being "on-par with Zarbon and Dodoria".I guess Avo and Cado can still come (and be the first wave of Freeza's invasion) following Tarble but they aren't a threat so...
What's noteworthy is that, if episode 19 and 20 refer to Freeza (which they probably do), it means he'll be revived in one episode and come to Earth the next one. So, no training montage. Or maybe the Jaco stuff doesn't take too long and they manage to show us some bits of the training but I'm not that hopeful.
About the Vegeta training with Whis thing, I totally agree it not being mentioned in the summaries proves nothing BUT they specifically saying that Goku leaves Earth to train with him is a giant red flag that he goes alone because it's (one of) the focus of the episode and there's no reason to omit Vegeta's name. If Goku goes alone and Vegeta finds out about it and wants to go as well, I'd imagine they'd devote an entire episode for that but judging from the summaries, there's no time for that because we'll be getting Freeza stuff. So, my bet is that Vegeta doesn't go but we'll see.
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I know they probably won't do this but it'll be interesting if they keep Goku out of the arc and leave Freeza&his men to Vegeta and the rest of the Z fighters.alakazam^ wrote:It seems Vegeta isn't training with Whis by the time Freeza attacks... that's interesting.
Vegeta could battle 4th form Freeza as a Ssj2/3 then when Freeza transforms Vegeta does the ritual with Gohan,Goten,Trunks,Pan&Bulma who's pregnant and fights him as a normal Ssjg.
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It looks like episode 20 is Sorbet and Tagoma gathering the Dragon Balls while Jaco comes to Earth early for some reason.
It doesn't make sense to be Freeza's invasion just yet considering he was in Hell in episode #19, he has to get resurrected, has to train and what-not and they can't do it all from episode 19 to 20.
It doesn't make sense to be Freeza's invasion just yet considering he was in Hell in episode #19, he has to get resurrected, has to train and what-not and they can't do it all from episode 19 to 20.
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He can get resurrected in the 1st half of ep20 then after the break they can have the announcer say that 4 months have passed since then and have the episode end with him arriving on earth.Doctor. wrote: It doesn't make sense to be Freeza's invasion just yet considering he was in Hell in episode #19, he has to get resurrected, has to train and what-not and they can't do it all from episode 19 to 20.
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Even still, First Form Freeza is leagues above Zarbon and Dodoria. Still nothing by Piccolo's level by now, you're right. But Piccolo's been fighting hundreds of goons and he's fairly worked up by the time he fights Shisame. But the power level of even Zarbon in his monster form should still be nothing to even ab exhausted Piccolo. At least someone as strong as First Form Freeza might give a better explanation as to why Piccolo is having a bit of a hard time.alakazam^ wrote:FutureGohanSSJ2 wrote:But weren't Abo and Cado said to be on Freeza's level? I think that would make more sense than Shisame and Tagoma, merely being "on-par with Zarbon and Dodoria".I guess Avo and Cado can still come (and be the first wave of Freeza's invasion) following Tarble but they aren't a threat so...Yes but Tarble could be referring to first form Freeza, for all we know. Even if he wasn't, Piccolo could still take them both as well.
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This one got me intrigued. What would be "surprising"? Maybe Kuririn was disappointed for not doing anything at all against Beerus and will ask for Goku to train him a little?alakazam^ wrote: 16 - One day, Kuririn goes to visit Goku. His surprising request is...?
He said he was retired, but we know by the time Freeza arrives he won't be anymore.
We know 16 is titled "Vegeta becomes a disciple". What if Vegeta gets there BEFORE Goku? That is why it wouldn't mention him alongside Goku.alakazam^ wrote:About the Vegeta training with Whis thing, I totally agree it not being mentioned in the summaries proves nothing BUT they specifically saying that Goku leaves Earth to train with him is a giant red flag that he goes alone because it's (one of) the focus of the episode and there's no reason to omit Vegeta's name. If Goku goes alone and Vegeta finds out about it and wants to go as well, I'd imagine they'd devote an entire episode for that but judging from the summaries, there's no time for that because we'll be getting Freeza stuff. So, my bet is that Vegeta doesn't go but we'll see.
I think Satan's "terrible visitor" in episode 15 will be Whis, as we know Satan is bribing him and offering food to stop the fight. Then Whis goes after his payment, once the crisis is over. Maybe that's when Vegeta meets him, leading to the events in episode 16. Just a theory, but nothing far-fetched.
Yeah, i'd love to have the internet when Romantic Ageru Yo was around, because it was so fitting. Or seeing fan reception to Zenkai PowerZetto wrote:What Dragon Ball ending isn't a chill or a love song?
I can't remember a single DB/Z/GT ending that "featured action", unless it was stills. That's not what ending sequences are known for, anyway.
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I look forward to the episode of Pan. I guess everyone is going to expect Pan to be a boy and end up being surprise that they have a girl instead. It will be like Lion King 2 all over again
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Oh gosh… I really dislike Zenkai Power. I think Romantic Ageru yo and Bokutachi no Tenshi Datta are both very romantic but fit very well as Dragon Ball endings. When I heard the ending song I thought it sounds fitting as an ending -- but I'll have to see what the animation does with it to render a final verdict.
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I don't think every episode of Super looks bad. I find most of it to look good expect for Episode 5 and Episode 9. Besides Madhouse, Sunrise and Bones are far from perfect neither. They have done poor animation sometimes too. Other Japanese companies like Tsuburaya and Toho can be pretty cheap too. Toei has been known to be cheap, but not everything that they make is terrible.FortuneSSJ wrote:It's frustrating when you get less popular series getting top notch treatment:Captain Space wrote:Man, that just reminded me of how irritated the Toriko anime made me...the manga was so gooood...
Gintama - Sunrise
Fullmetal Alchemist Brotherhood - Bones
Hunter x Hunter 2011 - Madhouse
Beautiful adaptations. People would think that Super, the new anime after 18 years from the most famous anime series worlwide, would get all the best.
HunterxHunter 2011 and Gintama are long shows. What the staff did with them deserves all the praise they can get. Its a feat.
I'm also proud of Dragon Ball series (Anime + Movies) from back then. However, Super in some episodes can be an embarrassment to nowadays standards.
Besides animation does not matter if you have a good story. Shows like Rick and Morty has bad animation, but strong writing. The writing is so good that people don't care if the writing is so good.
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