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TheSaiyanGod
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by TheSaiyanGod » Wed Aug 02, 2017 8:42 pm
Dragonballgod19 wrote:TheSaiyanGod wrote:Vegeta needs to have a really decent moment in the Tournament.
To lose to Brianne without doing anything relevant (he defeated U9, but that's not even close to its importance for the series) would totally rule out the character.
He does not have to be defeated for other characters to stand out.
If he defeats Toppo or Hitto it's already good
He already did him and goku solo a universe he has the highest knock outs on the team and getting a lot of screen time ever since the tournament started wtf and he's literally getting more
As I said, this is far from representing the true importance of Vegeta in Dragon Ball.
He defeated an entire universe with Goku, Freeza and the android 18, not to mention that they were not as strong.
So much so that he did not even have to turn into SSB (he only turned to defeat the dangers trio, and he did not need to either).
He must defeat an important character in the tournament, like Hitto or Toppo
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by Dragonballgod19 » Wed Aug 02, 2017 9:18 pm
TheSaiyanGod wrote:Dragonballgod19 wrote:TheSaiyanGod wrote:Vegeta needs to have a really decent moment in the Tournament.
To lose to Brianne without doing anything relevant (he defeated U9, but that's not even close to its importance for the series) would totally rule out the character.
He does not have to be defeated for other characters to stand out.
If he defeats Toppo or Hitto it's already good
He already did him and goku solo a universe he has the highest knock outs on the team and getting a lot of screen time ever since the tournament started wtf and he's literally getting more
As I said, this is far from representing the true importance of Vegeta in Dragon Ball.
He defeated an entire universe with Goku, Freeza and the android 18, not to mention that they were not as strong.
So much so that he did not even have to turn into SSB (he only turned to defeat the dangers trio, and he did not need to either).
He must defeat an important character in the tournament, like Hitto or Toppo
Oh ok
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by The_Destroyer » Wed Aug 02, 2017 10:31 pm
TheSaiyanGod wrote:Dragonballgod19 wrote:TheSaiyanGod wrote:Vegeta needs to have a really decent moment in the Tournament.
To lose to Brianne without doing anything relevant (he defeated U9, but that's not even close to its importance for the series) would totally rule out the character.
He does not have to be defeated for other characters to stand out.
If he defeats Toppo or Hitto it's already good
He already did him and goku solo a universe he has the highest knock outs on the team and getting a lot of screen time ever since the tournament started wtf and he's literally getting more
As I said, this is far from representing the true importance of Vegeta in Dragon Ball.
He defeated an entire universe with Goku, Freeza and the android 18, not to mention that they were not as strong.
So much so that he did not even have to turn into SSB (he only turned to defeat the dangers trio, and he did not need to either).
He must defeat an important character in the tournament, like Hitto or Toppo
He'd gotten so much spotlight in the u6 and Black arc already. I don't see what's wrong with him being sidelined so early. Hell it's happened to other seemingly important characters.
For the record I don't think he'll lose to rebrianne
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by Yedis » Wed Aug 02, 2017 10:40 pm
Ribrianne may be a red herring in that she might not be the biggest threat from U2.
Remember the 2 shadowy figures for U2 haven't been introduced yet.
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by perucho1990 » Wed Aug 02, 2017 10:47 pm
My last predictions before 103 preview comes out.
U4 might be the true dark horse of the ToP, while they lost some fighters they have some that could be dangerous. For example that mage girl, if Toei is smart, they would make her a broken character like Raven from the Teen Titans.
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by The_Destroyer » Wed Aug 02, 2017 10:53 pm
Yedis wrote:Ribrianne may be a red herring in that she might not be the biggest threat from U2.
Remember the 2 shadowy figures for U2 haven't been introduced yet.
And Thanos as well
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by RedHeat » Wed Aug 02, 2017 11:02 pm
The_Destroyer wrote:Yedis wrote:Ribrianne may be a red herring in that she might not be the biggest threat from U2.
Remember the 2 shadowy figures for U2 haven't been introduced yet.
And Thanos as well
There's going to be a crossover? [spoiler]hahaha[/spoiler]
But seriously though, I think we're due an arcly "filler" episode so I think ep 103 might be that.
Feels over Reals.
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by TheSaiyanGod » Wed Aug 02, 2017 11:13 pm
The_Destroyer wrote:TheSaiyanGod wrote:Dragonballgod19 wrote:
He already did him and goku solo a universe he has the highest knock outs on the team and getting a lot of screen time ever since the tournament started wtf and he's literally getting more
As I said, this is far from representing the true importance of Vegeta in Dragon Ball.
He defeated an entire universe with Goku, Freeza and the android 18, not to mention that they were not as strong.
So much so that he did not even have to turn into SSB (he only turned to defeat the dangers trio, and he did not need to either).
He must defeat an important character in the tournament, like Hitto or Toppo
He'd gotten so much spotlight in the u6 and Black arc already. I don't see what's wrong with him being sidelined so early. Hell it's happened to other seemingly important characters.
For the record I don't think he'll lose to rebrianne
Vegeta could have beaten them even more quickly if he had been going with everything from the beginning.
They were not warriors on his level, even Goku would win.
I'm talking about a really powerful enemy, with a power equal to his for example.
They were just inferior or weak opponents
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by Vegeta123 » Wed Aug 02, 2017 11:53 pm
I laugh at those who complain that this is the Goku and Vegeta show.
Outside of Freeza and maybe Gohan, everybody else shouldn't be in this tournament. Their stories ended long ago. Humans haven't been relevant since Dragonball, the cyborgs were never really part of the crew until now, and that hideous green slug isn't even worth mentioning.
Goku and Vegeta sell. They are the drivers of the show. They bring in the ratings. They should be the main guys fighting the villain. Every time I see those other guys standing I smile. Because they know their place. The writers know what they're doing from this aspect, I applaud them.
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by Michsi » Thu Aug 03, 2017 12:20 am
Akyon wrote:Dragonballgod19 wrote:It's pretty obvious Freeza only back to get stomp by jiren
Frieza's got his own subplot of underhandedly fucking over universe 7, teaming up with Frost .
I'd love it if this ended up as the two of them also secretly intending to screw each other over, resulting in a double back stabbing.
Also, now that I looked into the DB heroes spoiler, I actually feel less inclined to follow this arc to the end. It's pretty much exactly as expected.
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by Grimlock » Thu Aug 03, 2017 12:24 am
Michsi wrote:[Also, now that I looked into the DB heroes spoiler,
What spoiler?
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by omaro34 » Thu Aug 03, 2017 12:27 am
Man I can't wait for the spoilers. Please don't disappoint me Super.
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by Jigurashi » Thu Aug 03, 2017 12:29 am
Grimlock wrote:Michsi wrote:[Also, now that I looked into the DB heroes spoiler,
What spoiler?
I'm guessing the trailers of Goku and Freeza fighting Jiren, and or the one showing Goku fighting Toppo and also showed Brianne and later Kale. But those aren't spoilers, nor are they even guaranteed foreshadows of things to come. Heroes is really just something to keep on your mind as it's fairly hit or miss, but the fact that it has foreshadowed things before is why you shouldn't completely disregard it.
omaro34 wrote:Man I can't wait for the spoilers. Please don't disappoint me Super.
We're getting spoilers for episode 103 later today right? I'm honestly pretty excited for spoilers later today and can't wait for the episode spoilers for next week (hopefully next week we get episode spoilers for 103-106).
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by Michsi » Thu Aug 03, 2017 12:31 am
Jigurashi wrote:Grimlock wrote:Michsi wrote:[Also, now that I looked into the DB heroes spoiler,
What spoiler?
I'm guessing the trailers of Goku and Freeza fighting Jiren, ....
Right, sorry, guess spoiler was not the right word for it. Didn't mean to mislead.
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by Grimlock » Thu Aug 03, 2017 12:32 am
Jigurashi wrote:I'm guessing the trailers of Goku and Freeza fighting Jiren, and or the one showing Goku fighting Toppo and also showed Brianne and later Kale. But those aren't spoilers, nor are they even guaranteed foreshadows of things to come. Heroes is really just something to keep on your mind as it's fairly hit or miss, but the fact that it has foreshadowed things before is why you shouldn't completely disregard it.
Those trailers are only promoting characters that are/will be playable. SDBH5 showed just Jiren and Golden Freeza because they're already playable. SDBH6 shows Brianne, Kale and Toppo certainly because they're gonna be playable by the next mission. It doesn't "spoil" anything.
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by ArchedThunder » Thu Aug 03, 2017 12:33 am
omaro34 wrote:Man I can't wait for the spoilers. Please don't disappoint me Super.
I hope the Jump preview for 103 doesn't spoil how 102 ends.
It'd be great if they're still fighting the magical girls in 103.
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by Jigurashi » Thu Aug 03, 2017 12:36 am
ArchedThunder wrote:omaro34 wrote:Man I can't wait for the spoilers. Please don't disappoint me Super.
I hope the Jump preview for 103 doesn't spoil how 102 ends.
It'd be great if they're still fighting the magical girls in 103.
I hope for that too. Though the NEP had me curious. It had that one scene where all of those U2 people where cheering. Was that suppose to mean they were eliminated?
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by omaro34 » Thu Aug 03, 2017 12:40 am
ArchedThunder wrote:omaro34 wrote:Man I can't wait for the spoilers. Please don't disappoint me Super.
I hope the Jump preview for 103 doesn't spoil how 102 ends.
It'd be great if they're still fighting the magical girls in 103.
I wouldn't mind fresh blood lasting a bit longer in Super, so I agree. Those five pride troopers from last episode weren't really memorable and didn't last long.
Some of those stoic guys from universe 7 will have a hard time keeping their composure against those magical girls.
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by Simere » Thu Aug 03, 2017 12:41 am
Jigurashi wrote:ArchedThunder wrote:omaro34 wrote:Man I can't wait for the spoilers. Please don't disappoint me Super.
I hope the Jump preview for 103 doesn't spoil how 102 ends.
It'd be great if they're still fighting the magical girls in 103.
I hope for that too. Though the NEP had me curious. It had that one scene where all of those U2 people where cheering. Was that suppose to mean they were eliminated?
You can see the debris of the stage behind them.
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by MainJPW » Thu Aug 03, 2017 1:23 am
The_Destroyer wrote:
And Thanos as well
I at least want him to back hand a couple guys off the arena.
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