Beerus is also a temperamental idiot who's been known to lie to people just to get what he wants, and what he wants in this case is to have this whole situation over and done with. He wouldn't be so insistent on being right if he didn't see this whole situation as a bother. Trunks, however, being an experienced time traveler should know that Beerus' statements don't make a lick of sense as it would completely alter everything if Zamasu was dead before any of his plan could come to fruition.LightBing wrote: There's no reason to doubt Beerus at all. He's a God with millions of years, with an attendant who's even wiser and didn't contradicted him. Even when Trunks and Bulma told them their concerns.
Trunks doesn't know about the Mafuba, Goku and Vegeta going with them is already the back up plan. Since it was the original plan.
The characters aren't being idiots, it's arguable they could've stopped and discussed their options a bit longer. It still doesn't undermine anything.
Plus, what kind of back up plan are Goku and Vegeta? They aren't any stronger than they were before and Zamasu & Black can kill all three of them if they want to, I'd say Trunks asking them "Hey! You guys know anything that can stop an immortal by any chance?" sounds like a lot better back up plan than "Let's bring the two idiots who got their asses kicked last time for another round!".
I won't comment about the time travel stuff as that's a point I actually feel deserves being given a chance to explain itself, the power related shit does not. For one, Black and whatever Zamasu is with him is no immediate threat to the present timeline, meaning Vegeta and Trunks have as much time as they need to train so Trunks can get Blue. Since his power already rivals that of SS2 Goku post-absorption, he should be able to get Blue a LOT faster than Vegeta, especially since they can bribe Whis to help train Trunks in the Earths ROSAT. Trunks not doing this when he's been shown as a far more pragmatic character than most of the others makes him look like a total moron.HeroR wrote:
We already know that Super Saiyan God Super Saiyan is a peaceful transformation, so Trunks getting it from being angry wouldn't make sense and would be an asspull. Speaking of which, an asspull is when something happens unexpectedly with no real explanation. Since rage boosts have been part of the series since Z and Trunks got one from Bulma being slapped, it wouldn't fit the definition of an asspull.
Or he can just do the ritual and get God ki that way, if Trunks has enough potential to attain Goku's SS2 power level post God ki absorption with nothing warranting such an increase, he can absorb God ki like Goku just fine.
Vegeta getting a boost from Bulma getting slapped was horseshit back when BoG came out and it remains as such now that we're on the cusp of going into 2017. Vegeta had several noteworthy instances where he could have gotten a rage boost but never did, he didn't get one when Goku pissed him off in their first fight, he didn't get one against Reccoome or Freeza or 18 or Cell or Goku or Boo or aaaaannnnnyyyyyyyyoooooonneeeee! Neither did Trunks, the only character who was established to get rage boosts is Gohan, hell, the Android & Boo arcs constantly talk about this ability of his as something exclusively beneficial to him than no one else has.[/quote]