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Re: Super's manga by Toyotarō

Post by DI297 » Sat Dec 19, 2015 7:53 pm

I wonder why Kabe doesnt have a tail and if his haircut being the same as gohan's means something or if it was plain laziness

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Re: Super's manga by Toyotarō

Post by Chuquita » Sat Dec 19, 2015 7:56 pm

Doctor. wrote:
fadeddreams5 wrote:Tarble being a teenage, time-traveling Vegeta could have happened. But, if uni 6 versions of Goku and Vegeta were the opposite sex, they wouldn't be able to bare a kid together anyways! D=
Watch how Saiyan females are able to reproduce with each-other.
Oh I didn't mean for them both to be female in Uni 6. I thought I typed about just Gokû being female in Uni 6 and Vegeta still being male.
I'm also battling a cold/flu thing right now so I may have to double-check my posts.
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Re: Super's manga by Toyotarō

Post by Doctor. » Sat Dec 19, 2015 7:57 pm

I think you said something about princess Vegeta actually, so I assumed Goku would be the male. Regardless, my post wasn't addressed to you. :P

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Re: Super's manga by Toyotarō

Post by pacz360 » Sat Dec 19, 2015 7:59 pm

So why are people thinking the little saiyan kid from u6 is possibly a female?

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Re: Super's manga by Toyotarō

Post by Chuquita » Sat Dec 19, 2015 8:00 pm

Re: how many are what sex?
Oh ok. Again, battling a cold/flu thing. ^^; Sorry I got confused.

Princess Vegeta and Prince of all Saiyans Kakarrotto would be the more entertaining option.
Prince Vegeta and Princess Kakarroto would be the cute option, imo.

I'll take either if it actually does happen, but I still think my chances for it are super low.
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Re: Super's manga by Toyotarō

Post by DI297 » Sat Dec 19, 2015 8:14 pm

pacz360 wrote:So why are people thinking the little saiyan kid from u6 is possibly a female?
I read someone saying something about thin eyebrows but idk about the others and I think thats a pretty dumb reason to think he is a female since thin eyebrows aint even a female feature cause both male and female can have either thin or bushy eyebrows

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Re: Super's manga by Toyotarō

Post by Black_Liger » Sat Dec 19, 2015 8:17 pm

Chuquita wrote:Re: how many are what sex?
Oh ok. Again, battling a cold/flu thing. ^^; Sorry I got confused.

Princess Vegeta and Prince of all Saiyans Kakarrotto would be the more entertaining option.
Prince Vegeta and Princess Kakarroto would be the cute option, imo.

I'll take either if it actually does happen, but I still think my chances for it are super low.
Hmmm would kinda work if it did the DC way and have Kakarotto die at childbirth, but give bardock and gine a girl saiyan. Just like Owl Man is Batman's brother on another universe.
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Re: Super's manga by Toyotarō

Post by Lord Beerus » Sat Dec 19, 2015 8:23 pm

GodVegetto91 wrote:So what's your prefered design for this Zarama Character?
I can't help but picture a humanoid dragon (preferably either dark blue or purple from color) and a large tail is an absolute requierment..
What do you guys prefer him to look like?
Something that is inspired from Smaug would be pretty cool.

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Re: Super's manga by Toyotarō

Post by Black_Liger » Sat Dec 19, 2015 8:26 pm

Lord Beerus wrote:
GodVegetto91 wrote:So what's your prefered design for this Zarama Character?
I can't help but picture a humanoid dragon (preferably either dark blue or purple from color) and a large tail is an absolute requierment..
What do you guys prefer him to look like?
Something that is inspired from Smaug would be pretty cool.

There is NO way, Zarama has a cool design. People are expecting him to be badass and huge universal dragon. Toriyama will keep his damn "You are waiting for a huge cool dragon?. Here, a tiny dragon that fits on a fish bucket is the most powerful dragon god, oh God that is so so unique I'm so clever".
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Re: Super's manga by Toyotarō

Post by Chuquita » Sat Dec 19, 2015 9:05 pm

DI297 wrote:
pacz360 wrote:So why are people thinking the little saiyan kid from u6 is possibly a female?
I read someone saying something about thin eyebrows but idk about the others and I think thats a pretty dumb reason to think he is a female since thin eyebrows aint even a female feature cause both male and female can have either thin or bushy eyebrows

Android 17 has thin eyebrows and he's a man. So does...does the "elite" saiyan in DBHeroes have thin eyebrows too?

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Re: Super's manga by Toyotarō

Post by DI297 » Sat Dec 19, 2015 9:09 pm

Chuquita wrote:
DI297 wrote:
pacz360 wrote:So why are people thinking the little saiyan kid from u6 is possibly a female?
I read someone saying something about thin eyebrows but idk about the others and I think thats a pretty dumb reason to think he is a female since thin eyebrows aint even a female feature cause both male and female can have either thin or bushy eyebrows

Android 17 has thin eyebrows and he's a man. So does...does the "elite" saiyan in DBHeroes have thin eyebrows too?

Yup. Here he is:
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yup even if he was wearing makeup he would still be a man, the only way to say he is a woman for sure is if he had curves or at least feminine clothes and he doesnt have any

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Re: Super's manga by Toyotarō

Post by Tsufuru » Sat Dec 19, 2015 9:17 pm

Black_Liger wrote:
Lord Beerus wrote:
GodVegetto91 wrote:So what's your prefered design for this Zarama Character?
I can't help but picture a humanoid dragon (preferably either dark blue or purple from color) and a large tail is an absolute requierment..
What do you guys prefer him to look like?
Something that is inspired from Smaug would be pretty cool.

There is NO way, Zarama has a cool design. People are expecting him to be badass and huge universal dragon. Toriyama will keep his damn "You are waiting for a huge cool dragon?. Here, a tiny dragon that fits on a fish bucket is the most powerful dragon god, oh God that is so so unique I'm so clever".
you ppl start to get annoying tbh.

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Re: Super's manga by Toyotarō

Post by Black_Liger » Sat Dec 19, 2015 9:28 pm

Tsufuru wrote:you ppl start to get annoying tbh.
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Can you elaborate as to why I am annoying?. The first times it was pretty cool because if was unexpected, but that habit of toriyama got too old right about now.
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Re: Super's manga by Toyotarō

Post by FortuneSSJ » Sat Dec 19, 2015 9:30 pm

pacz360 wrote:So why are people thinking the little saiyan kid from u6 is possibly a female?
Eyes and mouth. The way they are drawn gives me tsundere female vibes.
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Re: Super's manga by Toyotarō

Post by pacz360 » Sat Dec 19, 2015 9:37 pm

FortuneSSJ wrote:
pacz360 wrote:So why are people thinking the little saiyan kid from u6 is possibly a female?
Eyes and mouth. The way they are drawn gives me tsundere female vibes.
Eyes I could get mouth? Don't see it really.

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Re: Super's manga by Toyotarō

Post by FortuneSSJ » Sat Dec 19, 2015 9:43 pm

pacz360 wrote: Eyes I could get mouth? Don't see it really.
Don't worry I see it. Eventually we'll get the confirmation.
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Re: Super's manga by Toyotarō

Post by Herms » Sat Dec 19, 2015 10:35 pm

OK, here we go, translation of chapter 7. Lots of wordplay, which makes for a fun time translating. Yep...I may fine-tune it more later. I also still need to identify one of the speaking characters, who is simply marked as "Unknown" for now.
Narrator: “The Universe 7 members for the martial arts match Champa suggested ended up being Goku, Vegeta, Piccolo, Boo, and ‘the strongest warrior Beerus ever met’. Meanwhile, in order to find the final Super Dragon Ball, Bulma heads off with Jaco to meet the supposedly all-knowing Lord Zuno.”

Jaco: “A match against Universe 6!? Super Dragon Balls!? I’m an elite and even I didn’t know about this stuff!”
Bulma: “I’d never heard of any of this either before now.”
Jaco: “If this is true, it should be a really interesting match. Can you take me with you?”
Bulma: “It should be fine, since they said the contestants’ associates were welcome to come. Bring your girlfriend along too.”
Jaco: “…”
Bulma: “…Huh? Don’t tell me you got dumped again?”
Jaco: “No way! She just said there was someone better for me out there.”
Bulma: “Haha! That’s a typical break-up line.”
Jaco: “…You’ve got no delicacy…”

The planet where Zuno lives

Jaco: “We’ve come to ask questions of Lord Zuno.”
Aide: “Questions?”
Jaco: “Yes.”
Aide: “Well then, give your present.”
Bulma: “Huh? A present?”
Jaco: “OK, here’s a kiss.”
Bulma: “!!”
Zuno: “…………You’re a man, so you get just one question.”
Jaco: “Haha, I’ll show you just how smart this guy is. Lord Zuno, what is the bust size of this Earthling named ‘Bulma’?”
Zuno: “83.4 centimeters. Previously it was 87.2 centimeters, but she’s started to sag a bit.”
Bulma: “…!”
Jaco: “So, is he right? He's right, isn't he?”
Bulma: “Shut up!!”
Aide: “And does the saggy-breasted lady have a question as well?”
Bulma: “Yes I do! That’s the whole reason I came here!”
Aide: “Then give your present.”
Bulma: “For crying out loud! *smooch*”
Zuno: “You’re a woman, but middle-aged and not really my type, so you get three questions.”
Bulma: “Huh!? What the?! You mean a lovely lady like me only gets to ask two more questions than a man!?”
Zuno: “Correct.”
Aide: “Alright, one question down, two more to go.”
Bulma: “Huh?! B-But that wasn’t…!!”
Jaco: “Hurry up!”
Bulma: “O-OK then, tell me everything about the Super Dragon Balls.”
Zuno: “The Super Dragon Balls, also known as ‘Wish Orbs’, are perfect spheres with a diameter of 37,196.2204 kilometers, created by the Dragon God Zarama in the 41st year of the Divine Calendar. Universe 6 and Universe 7 together have a total of seven of these light-yellow balls, each of which contains one to seven red starfish marks. These red starfish marks are Zarama’s own original design, which he obtained a patent for during the 42nd year of the Divine Calendar. This design utilizes refraction to ensure that the marks remain starfish-shaped no matter from which angle they are viewed. If you assemble all seven spheres scattered throughout the two universes and intone in the language of the gods the incantation ‘Come forth, God of Dragons, and grant my wish, easy peasy lemon squeezy!’, then the God of Dragons will appear and grant any wish, but only one. Once that wish is granted, they will once again scatter throughout the two universes and silently await the time when they shall be gathered up again by someone with an unobtainable dream.”

[Note: The joke with the phrase to say when making a wish is that it uses chonmage, meaning the “topknot” in old-fashioned Japanese hairdos but also used as a pun on choudai/”please”. As Bulma notes below, it’s a corny dad joke.]

Bulma: “…………Huh? The two universes together contain a total of seven?”
Zuno: “Correct.”
Aide: “No more questions.”
Bulma: “H-Hold on! That incantation you mentioned earlier…’Grant my wish, easy peasy lemon squeezy’…It’s such a corny dad joke! Do we really have to say that!?”
Zuno: “He already told you, no more questions.”
Aide: “You’ll be able to ask more questions one year from now.”
Bulma: “*smooch smooch* Please, Lord Zuno, sweetie~…There’s lots more I wanna ask you~!”
Jaco: “……………”
Bulma: “This is all your fault for asking a stupid, pointless question! Now we can’t do anything but head back to Earth!”
Jaco: “You’re one to talk! You wasted two whole questions!”
Bulma: “…Well, at least we know that the two universes together contain a total of seven Super Dragon Balls…Come on Jaco, let’s go back!”
Jaco: “Rich people are such jerks. Couldn’t you at least say ‘take me back, please’? This is why your boobs are sagging.”

The Room of Spirit and Time

Goku: “So, whaddaya think?”
Vegeta: “About what?”
Goku: “Are those Universe 6 guys strong?”
Vegeta: “Definitely.”
Goku: “What makes you say that?”
Vegeta: “That God of Destruction, ‘Champa’, suggested this martial arts match even after seeing our training. So he must be pretty confident.”
Goku: “Makes sense. You’re pretty smart, ain’t ya?”
Vegeta: “Compared to you at least!!”
Goku: “There’ll be five people we don’t know…actually six, counting that guy Lord Beerus was talking about. I can’t wait!”
Vegeta: “What are you, a kid? Try and act your age a little more!”
Goku: “What? Didn’t you tell me Saiyans stay young until they hit 80?”
Vegeta: “Physically maybe, but you need to grow up a bit mentally.”
Goku: “Really?”
Vegeta: “Enough talk…!”
Goku: “I see…This place won’t break no matter how much we cut loose! OK, let’s go all-out, just like old times!”
Vegeta: “Is that all you’ve got, Kakarot?!!!”
Goku: “Not even close, Vegeta!!!”

Narration: “Afterwards, Goku and Vegeta trained for three days…that is, for three years, inside the new ‘Room of Spirit and Time’. And so, the day of the match finally arrived…Their friends on Earth all headed for the tournament grounds in a spaceship specially prepared by Whis.”

Beerus: “What!? There are seven Super Dragon Balls between Universe 6 and 7!? Which means that damn Champa snuck into my universe uninvited and took some of those balls…! How unbelievably rude of him!”
Bulma: “Tell me about it. This means it’ll be twice as hard to track down that last ball.”
Mai: “…Lord Pilaf, what are these ‘Super Dragon Balls’ they’re talking about?”
Shu: “Well, if they’re ‘super’ then I guess they must be pretty big…”
Pilaf: “M-Maybe they’re as big as watermelons…”
Goku: “Hey Videl, where’s Gohan?”
Videl: “There was some important academic conference today, so he couldn’t come.”
Goku: “Geez, that guy…”
Vegeta: “Hey Kakarot, who’s that? An acquaintance of yours?”
Whis: “That gentleman is Monaka, the ‘strongest warrior’ whom Lord Beerus spoke of earlier.”
Goku: “Monaka…”
Vegeta: “He certainly doesn’t look like anything special.”
Piccolo: “Which means you shouldn’t underestimate him. That’s how these things usually go, right?”
Whis: “The name Monaka means ‘Grand Ponta’, I believe. Monaka is a hero who resides on the planet Wagashi. Though very quiet and gentle, once he gets down to business he is powerful enough to give even Lord Beerus a hard time.”
Goku: “Hey there!! I’m Goku, nice to meet you!”
Monaka: “Greetings.”
Goku: “So, you’re the‘Grand Ponta’, huh? Sounds amazing! But...what exactly is a‘Ponta’, anyway?”
Monka: “It means nipples.”
Goku: “Huh?”
Monka: “They call me that because I have large nipples.”
Goku: “Oh…OK…Haha…”
Beerus: “You probably didn’t need to know that.”
Goku: “Ah…….Hahaha….”
Unknown: “Hey! Who farted!?”
Boo: “Satan, I’m hungry.”
Chi-Chi: “I thought you might be, so I brought some box lunches.”
Satan: “Oh! You’re always so helpful, Chi-Chi!”
Galactic King: “…Hey, Jaco.”
Jaco: “What is it, sire?”
Galactic King: “Is it my imagination, or is nobody paying any attention to me?”
Jaco: “My apologies, but these people are on speaking terms with Gods of Destruction and Kaios…I guess for them a Galactic King just isn’t all that impressive.”
Galactic King: “Mmmm…”
Kuririn: “Geez, still a long way to go…How about playing Shiritori?”

[Note: Shiritori is a Japanese word game where someone calls out a word, then the next person says a word that starts with the last syllable of whichever word the previous person said. This goes on until someone either can’t think of a word, or says a word ending with ‘n’.]

Marron: “Bald head [hage-atama]”
No.18: “Pillow [makura]”
Oolong: “B-Bugle [rappa]”
Kame-sennin: “Panties [pantsu]”
Jaco: “Sword [tsurugi]”
Galactic King: “Galactic King….. [Ginga-ou]”
Videl: “Baby’s first cry [ubu-goe]”
Chi-Chi: “Dirty old man [ero-oyaji]”
Whis: “………..Jiru-Jiru”
Goku: “Huh? What’s a Jiru-Jiru?”
Whis: “A bird native to my planet.”
Goku: “Whoah.”
Chi-Chi: “OK, the next person has ‘ru’”
Beerus: “H-H-H…House-sitting [rusuban]”
Unknown: “Oh! That ends in ‘n’! Lord Beerus loses!”
Beerus: “Damn it!!”

Narration: “After spending 35 minutes to travel from Earth to Beerus’ planet, it takes the group another 2 hours 10 minutes to arrive at the ‘Nameless Planet’, site of the tournament grounds.”

Beerus: “There it is, that’s the planet over there.”
The group: “T-Those are the Super Dragon Balls?! They’re huge!!”
Mai: “Way bigger than watermelons…”
Pilaf: “Awawa…”
Whis: “Well then, everyone, here we are.”
Kuririn: “Phew.”
Champa: “Hoh, so you were brave enough to actually show up.”
Beerus: “Hey, Champa! Seems you stole several Super Dragon Balls from my universe!”
Champa: “Well, you didn’t even know about the Super Dragon Balls, so I didn’t think it would be a problem.”
Beerus: "I’ll let it slide...but only because we're brothers. Besides, they’re all going to be mine before too long anyway.”
Champa: “Hmph! You’d better take this time to prepare for your defeat!”
Beerus: “Chh!”
Goku: “Well, if it isn’t Lord Kaioshin!”
Kaioshin: “Hey Goku, haven’t seen you in a while.”
Goku: “Huh? Why have you split back up into two people?”
Kaioshin: “I asked the Namekians to separate us.”
Goku: “Huh…”
Kaioshin: “It just felt kind of strange, after all.”
Goku: “What the…? Yo! Are you guys the Kaioshins from Universe 6?”
U6 Kaioshin #1: “Uh…Well, yes…”
U6 Kaioshin #2: “………”
Goku: “I knew it! Good to meet ya!”
Whis: “Goku, the written test is about to begin.”
Goku: “Oh, OK. Well, see ya later!”
U6 Kaioshin #1: “Is…Is he a friend of yours?...”
Elder Kaioshin: “Heheh, well, it’s a long story.”
Goku: “Hey…That guy looks kinda familiar…”
Vegeta: “Freeza!?”
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Re: Super's manga by Toyotarō

Post by FortuneSSJ » Sat Dec 19, 2015 10:56 pm

Jaco: “No way! She just said there was someone better for me out there.”
Bulma: “Haha! That’s a typical break up line.”´
Okay, I laughed a lot here. :lol: :lol:
Goku: “Monaka…”
Vegeta: “He certainly doesn’t look like anything special.”
Piccolo: “Which means you shouldn’t underestimate him. That’s how these things usually go, right?”
Piccolo's shot out to this fanbase.

What an amazing read. Again! This manga is kicking so much ass, It's ridiculous.
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Re: Super's manga by Toyotarō

Post by fadeddreams5 » Sat Dec 19, 2015 11:00 pm

Ugh... why are they still including Pilaf? -.-

And Buu seems like he will never change back into a likable character.

Eh... still interested in the Uni 6 guys.
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Re: Super's manga by Toyotarō

Post by pacz360 » Sat Dec 19, 2015 11:01 pm

I'm getting the feeling that akira is self aware of the fanbase and such lately.

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