I was talking about the manga god battle royale which if you ask me was better than the actual tournament.[/quote]Hawk9211 wrote:Fan pandering?Because that’s what this quote implies.1345521 wrote: Hm? I had a hard understand what you were getting at in this post, I'm not saying kale eliminating fodder was that cool (especially since toyotaro didn't even both to show us the cabaillities of these people and why they lasted this long in the first place), but it does make kale even more impressive as well as make me interested in the story. And the reason I love kale is because broly is my favorite character in the franchise, so having kale be very simloar to broly but still be kinda distinct and her own character is a great plus. I mean ask any hardcore broly who they like better now, most either say they are I differnt towards both or they like manga kale better. Which for toyotaro is an sucess, captivate towards the broly fans. All these pessimist (anime troopers) who want fodder wank would have still hated your chapter anyway, so it's better to appeal to groups in the fandom that like having their character shine. Broly fans are somewhat excited and now gohan fans have interst in the manga. Go for the big fish is what toyotaro is doing, not trying to appease the skeptics.I never get that much emotional on fiction,so I won’t comment on that.Akira toriyama didn’t have any sentimental attachments to characters while in recent chapters toyotaro seems to be pandering to his personal fandom.And when I mean interested in the story. I actually feel EMOTION when reading dbs manga which is why I've become a big fan.for example, reading chapter 38. The facial expression toyotaro draws goku and others when they are shocked is the same expression I had reading this chapter. That's great! In the anime it's more of a bore fest and cringe fest because everything is so childesh and it only appeals to 12 year old children and people who try to act like man-childs. I really love how toyotaro is making a story that he likes and not trying to appease the famdom. That's what Akira did so Toyo is now following the same footsteps. Dosent mean I found this chapter perfect, but it had some good stuff. Characterization was greatHis art is average,his panelling is quite weak,his choreography is lacking and biggest of all he doesn’t bring creativity.I wanted to reply to your previous comment about art,but I’ll reply now.Art was awesome
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There’s obviously the original manga,vagabond,even nanatsu no taizai,dr. stone etc.
I know that I am being too hard on toyotaro by comparing with these examples,but my point is toyotaro is an amateur and it shows.I really like these things about the manga,but the truth is that the only reason it gets so much praise is because anime is very bad at this and people have this notion that dragon ball was always bad.Remove that and it isn’t that amazing.Power scailing made sense
Consistency was good
And what were saying about god royale? Don't tell me you found the god sparring matach in the anime better then the manga fight to death royale?
Yes...I guess it's fan pandering... ...
No you're not being hard on toyotaro. You're just being objective and blunt about it, I have a good sense of someone who just has predujices against toyotaro. You Defitnly aren't one of them, you scream neutral and honest.
I'm not much of an manga reader, the only real manga I've read is dbs. So I really don't know, the reason I like his art because I find easier to make out what's going on. In other manga (one peice) I have to squint to even make out what the heck is happening, while for toyotaro it's much more simplistic. Plus his color coding is GERGOUS! Though I do think I agree and say his battle dynamic are a little to plain. Best example is hit and mssj blue goku vs jiren. That fight should have been sending huge shock waves and making everyone stop to watch the fight because of how insanely powerful they are. Kinda like goku vs jiren in the 1 hour special.
Dragon ball has a lot more going for it then just power scailing consistency, and even the manga. Manga has:
Steady amount of gore
Neat ideas (though usually all controversial)
Decent writing (in scope of all mangas while for dragon ball standards it's above average)
Manga god royale was better then tournment itself? Hahahah, hey can't say I totally dissagree. My rating for both chapters 28 and 29 were a 95/100 and 90/100 while the ToP in the manga is averaging only about an 85/100.
But your feedback was well appcriated! Thank you for at least appearing to be honest and give valid critism of toyotaro. To many times I've come across people who just slander toyotaro which makes me become defensive.