"Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread

[shadowfox87]

How do you guys interpreted chapter 31 of super , where it’s said that 10 years ago Satan defeat cell and seven years later buu.
Is it not telling us that we are just 3 years after killing buu meaning still 7 years to EOZ ?
Super Manga didn’t say time that passed between buu and B.o.G....

The Super Manga didn't but it was stated in the the “World of Dragon Ball Tour” exhibition in Japan on 2013 that Battle of Gods starts four years after the defeat of Buu. In Chapter 31 of the DBS Manga, Satan says that it was over 10 years ago that he defeated Cell. The Buu Saga is 7 years after Cell, and Battle of Gods is four years after the defeat of Buu, 7+4=11 years, so yes it's over 10 years ago. Satan is correct. We are four years to EoZ.

Ok so ..do we still have more than 6 years to E.o.z , right ?

No, I just said above that it's Age 780 in DBS right now. EoZ is Age 784. That's 4 years to go.

[Miracles]

Does anyone else feel like Toriyama changed his mind halfway through the ToP? A big deal was made of the fact that Jiren was the one mortal who even the Gods of Destruction were powerless against, and how Goku needed to master the technique that was beyond the Destroyers to have a chance against him. When they finally clashed against each other, Beerus admitted in a bittersweet tone that Goku was incredible, seemingly accepting that he had been surpassed, with the anime version making this particularly clear when it had Goku and Jiren punching each other set to music where the singer screams about how even the gods are in awe. Then it has them stand up respectfully, acknowledging the fight.

But as of the latest arc, Goku claims he hasn't pulled off Ultra Instinct even once since Jiren knocked him out of it. He doesn't use it in the Broly movie either. And in both the Broly arc and the La Cabra arc, Beerus is still acting like the same smug prick and Goku is still chasing his tail. What was even the point of the ToP and Ultra Instinct if everything was going to be reset?

There is a problem, Jiren being above all gods and Goku surpassing Beerus is nothing but fiction. It wasn't stated anywhere in the anime or manga.

Nope.

Spoiler:

He's not even anywhere close to full power at the point he's stated to surpass the level of the Gods of Destruction in general:

Goku would annihilate Beerus with UI, that's the entire reason the power-up was written out.

As for the manga, we're directly told that Jiren is stronger than Belmond, and we directly see that Belmond outmatches Beerus and the other ten gods combined in a direct fight. The only GoD that was able to break out of Belmond's energy spheres was Liquiir, not Beerus, and Liquiir was totally unable to damage Belmond even with his strongest barrage which intimidated the other GoDs.

I think you should reread the chapters and review your images. Those images don't state or show where Ultra Instinct Goku, Jiren and Belmond is stronger than Beerus.
Also, how did you miss Whis stating Jiren "perhaps" surpassed the state of gods? That is not a statement of fact.

[prince212]

The Super Manga didn't but it was stated in the the “World of Dragon Ball Tour” exhibition in Japan on 2013 that Battle of Gods starts four years after the defeat of Buu. In Chapter 31 of the DBS Manga, Satan says that it was over 10 years ago that he defeated Cell. The Buu Saga is 7 years after Cell, and Battle of Gods is four years after the defeat of Buu, 7+4=11 years, so yes it's over 10 years ago. Satan is correct. We are four years to EoZ.

Ok so ..do we still have more than 6 years to E.o.z , right ?

No, I just said above that it's Age 780 in DBS right now. EoZ is Age 784. That's 4 years to go.

Sorry , it’s kind of confusing me . Buu was 7 years after cell , E.o.z was 17 years after cell then.... so if Satan is right and at the time of pre-T.o.P he said 10-11 years after cell ... doesn’t it mean there’s 6 years to EoZ ?
Edit : I’m not buying the four years that you said of b.o.g after buu , so I guess there is the confusion, and I’m taking Satan 10 year statement too rigorously I guess , because if we are 4 years to eoz he would say “ it’s being 13 years I defeat cell “
Just happened that I interpreted that tv program as a 10 anniversary of Satan defeating cell

[shadowfox87]

Ok so ..do we still have more than 6 years to E.o.z , right ?

No, I just said above that it's Age 780 in DBS right now. EoZ is Age 784. That's 4 years to go.

Sorry , it’s kind of confusing me . Buu was 7 years after cell , E.o.z was 17 years after cell then.... so if Satan is right and at the time of pre-T.o.P he said 10-11 years after cell ... doesn’t it mean there’s 6 years to EoZ ?

Buu is 7 years after Cell - correct
Battle of Gods is 4 years after Buu - correct
ToP is 2 years after BoG - correct (where Satan is talking)
EoZ is 4 years after ToP - correct

7+4+2=13 years after Cell which is over 10 years ago which is what Satan said. I'm not sure where you're getting 17 years from.

[RandomGuy96]

I think you should reread the chapters and review your images. Belmond's performance was nothing special. Even Rumishi and Sidra had a moment to shine just like him.

Rumshii used a special sonic scream. Belmond just attacked with his ki as normal and Beerus and the others were helpless. He also showed greater durability than anyone else.

However, Beerus stood out among them all since he was taking all the gods on at the same time and even a handful of them, including Belmond was saved from his attack. The context implies the two strongest are Beerus and Quitela not Belmond.

Beerus did absolutely nothing special. He dodged punches for a page with his pseudo-UI (not a matter of power) and then threw one energy blast that was negated by Sidra. That's it. When he got into the melee later, he came out heavily injured and barely standing despite it being a free-for-all. It's very clear from that big melee that the GoDs are all around the same power.

Also, those images don't state or show where Ultra Instinct Goku or Jiren is stronger than Beerus.

It states that Jiren is stronger than a specific GoD and that specific GoD is stronger than Beerus. This being while he's heavily suppressed anyway.

Nice job ignoring the Vegeta image btw. A heavily suppressed Jiren is above any other ki Vegeta has encountered, including Whis's when he knocked out Beerus. Stated.

Also, how did you miss Whis stating Jiren "perhaps" surpassed the state of gods? That is not a statement of fact.

Statement of fact: he has matched the GoDs in general
Maybe: he's stronger than them in general
Now, that's for a heavily, heavily suppressed Jiren. He does multiple major power-ups later. With his final power-up exceeding by far the level he had before the tournament. If a heavily suppressed Jiren is at least strong as them and possibly already stronger, then his full power completely blows them out of the water by a large margin.

[prince212]

No, I just said above that it's Age 780 in DBS right now. EoZ is Age 784. That's 4 years to go.

Sorry , it’s kind of confusing me . Buu was 7 years after cell , E.o.z was 17 years after cell then.... so if Satan is right and at the time of pre-T.o.P he said 10-11 years after cell ... doesn’t it mean there’s 6 years to EoZ ?

Buu is 7 years after Cell - correct
Battle of Gods is 4 years after Buu - correct
ToP is 2 years after BoG - correct (where Satan is talking)
EoZ is 4 years after ToP - correct

7+4+2=13 years after Cell which is over 10 years ago which is what Satan said. I'm not sure where you're getting 17 years from.

Ok , I edited my previous message .. there I explained

[Miracles]

I think you should reread the chapters and review your images. Belmond's performance was nothing special. Even Rumishi and Sidra had a moment to shine just like him.

Rumshii used a special sonic scream. Belmond just attacked with his ki as normal and Beerus and the others were helpless. He also showed greater durability than anyone else.

However, Beerus stood out among them all since he was taking all the gods on at the same time and even a handful of them, including Belmond was saved from his attack. The context implies the two strongest are Beerus and Quitela not Belmond.

Beerus did absolutely nothing special. He dodged punches for a page with his pseudo-UI (not a matter of power) and then threw one energy blast that was negated by Sidra. That's it. When he got into the melee later, he came out heavily injured and barely standing despite it being a free-for-all. It's very clear from that big melee that the GoDs are all around the same power.

Also, those images don't state or show where Ultra Instinct Goku or Jiren is stronger than Beerus.

It states that Jiren is stronger than a specific GoD and that specific GoD is stronger than Beerus. This being while he's heavily suppressed anyway.

Nice job ignoring the Vegeta image btw. A heavily suppressed Jiren is above any other ki Vegeta has encountered, including Whis's when he knocked out Beerus. Stated.

Also, how did you miss Whis stating Jiren "perhaps" surpassed the state of gods? That is not a statement of fact.

Statement of fact: he has matched the GoDs in general
Maybe: he's stronger than them in general
Now, that's for a heavily, heavily suppressed Jiren. He does multiple major power-ups later. If a heavily suppressed Jiren is at least strong as them and possibly already stronger, then his full power completely blows them out of the water by a large margin.

I don't think you understand. Nothing you posted shows or states directly with specifics that Jiren, UI Goku or Belmond is stronger than Beerus. You are only posting your desires through ambiguous text and inconclusive showings. Vegeta's statement doesn't prove anything either cause he has never seen Beerus full strength. You are reaching and trying to justify yourself on vague text. This isn't TOEI's fault but the fans.

[RandomGuy96]

I don't think you understand. Nothing you posted shows or states directly with specifics that Jiren, UI Goku or Belmond is stronger than Beerus. You are only posting your desires through ambiguous text and inconclusive showings.

Well now you're just lying, I posted several excerpts proving you wrong. This is probably also why you abandoned any attempt at actually arguing points in favor of "u r rong".

Whis directly states that Jiren is stronger than the GoDs in general, at substantially below his full power.

Whis directly states that Beerus is weaker than a specific God of Destruction who is weaker than a specific mortal, who he later says is Jiren.

Vegeta and Kaioshin both directly state that a heavily suppressed Jiren surpasses any power they encountered previously, which includes Beerus and Whis's level when knocking him out.

The manga exhibition match directly shows Beerus getting exhausted and injured in a free-for-all with the other GoDs and sustaining wounds from their blows, showing that they're around the same strength.

The manga exhibition match directly shows Belmond trapping and pressuring Beerus in a ki sphere he can't break out of, yet Liquiir can.

Vegeta's statement doesn't prove anything either cause he has never seen Beerus full strength.

That's a nice fan fiction you have there. He has seen Beerus cut loose against Champa and he has seen Whis put down a raging Beerus with one hit. He's seen them beat each other bloody to the point where their eyes were swelled shut.

[shadowfox87]

Edit : I’m not buying the four years that you said of b.o.g after buu , so I guess there is the confusion, and I’m taking Satan 10 year statement too rigorously I guess , because if we are 4 years to eoz he would say “ it’s being 13 years I defeat cell “
Just happened that I interpreted that tv program as a 10 anniversary of Satan defeating cell

The four years after Buu Saga is where BoG starts. That's a fact. You don't have to buy it. It was told to us when BoG was being released long ago in the 2013 "World of Dragon Ball Tour" exhibition in Japan. Satan literally said "over 10 years ago". 13 is over 10. Nothing he is saying is wrong.

[prince212]

Edit : I’m not buying the four years that you said of b.o.g after buu , so I guess there is the confusion, and I’m taking Satan 10 year statement too rigorously I guess , because if we are 4 years to eoz he would say “ it’s being 13 years I defeat cell “
Just happened that I interpreted that tv program as a 10 anniversary of Satan defeating cell

The four years after Buu Saga is where BoG starts. That's a fact. You don't have to buy it. It was told to us when BoG was being released long ago in the 2013 "World of Dragon Ball Tour" exhibition in Japan. Satan literally said "over 10 years ago". 13 is over 10. Nothing he is saying is wrong.

Ok , fair enough, toyo didn’t make it clear those four years after Buu Saga, he just said “time has passed since then”.

[PFM18]

Where does it say in the original DB/DBZ manga that Bra is 3 years at the time of the 28th Tenkaichi Budokai? I read the manga and there's no mention of Bra's age at all. Do you mean Pan like the above guy? Also, nowhere does the manga say "10 years of peace" either. The narrator says "10 years later" in Chapter 518. Then in Chapter 519, Goku and Vegeta discuss how it's been hard to raise Goten and Trunks. Goku then responds, "Yea but that just means the world's at peace" which also doesn't mean "10 years of peace".

To be honest I was mostly just reiterating what somebody else said about the 10 years of peace lol. I mean of course, it was heavily implied to be the case but maybe not explicitly stated and therefore not technically a contradiction. I was under the impression that there was a guide or supplementary material that said that Bra was 3 during EoZ but I could be mistaken. I know it isn't a good source, but according to DB wiki Bra is born in December of 780 and EoZ is in 784, so basically 3 years if we assume that the 28th TB took place in the earlier portions of 784.

I also don't know what you mean by "Bulma says she hasn't seen Bulma in 3 years" - I'm guessing there is a typo somewhere.

Lol yeah I meant "Bulma says she hasn't seen Goku in 5 years." No idea how I managed to screw that up so badly.

Buu is 7 years after Cell - correct
Battle of Gods is 4 years after Buu - correct
ToP is 2 years after BoG - correct (where Satan is talking)
EoZ is 4 years after ToP - correct

7+4+2=13 years after Cell which is over 10 years ago which is what Satan said. I'm not sure where you're getting 17 years from.

Even by the numbers you gave it would be 17 years because 7+4+2+4= 17 years from Cell to EoZ.

[shadowfox87]

I know it isn't a good source, but according to DB wiki Bra is born in December of 780 and EoZ is in 784, so basically 3 years if we assume that the 28th TB took place in the earlier portions of 784.

Bra/Bulla was born in Age 780. We know that just from watching Super since Whis literally caused her to be born. Also, yes Age 784 is when the 28th Tenkaichi Budokai takes palce. However, what exactly is the contradiction? The point is that Bra's age is nowhere stated in EoZ in the manga. So she can be 4 years old or 3 years old turning 4 soon.

Lol yeah I meant "Bulma says she hasn't seen Goku in 5 years." No idea how I managed to screw that up so badly.

Yes, and as I said above, that still fits and is fine. It's Age 780 currently in DBS. He meets Bulma in Age 784, May. We have no clue what month it is in Age 780. If it's January, then that's almost 4.5 years since Goku has seen Bulma. Not a full 5 years, but he can round up. Also, if you go back to the manga, it doesn't say Goku hasn't seen Bulma for 5 years but that exact quote is, "has not visited Bulma for 5 years".

Even by the numbers you gave it would be 17 years because 7+4+2+4= 17 years from Cell to EoZ.

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Yes, 17 years from Cell to EoZ, but he was asking why Satan said "over 10 years ago". Satan is saying that in Age 780 not at EoZ, so it's 13 years since Satan claimed he defeated Cell.

[prince212]

Thing is that Fat Buu is in the original DBZ manga in the 28th Tenkaichi Budokai. Hence, if Dai Kaioshin is extracted, then Fat Buu will not be him anymore. That would actually create a contradiction. I find it hard to believe they need the Dai Kaioshin's help. The Elder Kaioshin is the 15th generation Kaioshin; he should be older than Dai Kaioshin. They should just ask him for help.

End of Z/28th Tenkaichi Budokai are thoroughly contradicted already so this wouldn't really change anything other than maybe "EoZ is MORE contradicted now!"

Guys , didn’t read the origin of this discussion but ...years , age contradictions aside or peaceful time discordances, fat buu has to keep his form ... that change will be huge compare to the others .
Sometimes I think e.o.z should be on another timeline compared to super , may be the one where zamasu killed goku ... and they revived goku somehow and that’s it .after that Beerus slept for 20 years

[PFM18]

Bra/Bulla was born in Age 780. We know that just from watching Super since Whis literally caused her to be born. Also, yes Age 784 is when the 28th Tenkaichi Budokai takes palce. However, what exactly is the contradiction? The point is that Bra's age is nowhere stated in EoZ in the manga. So she can be 4 years old or 3 years old turning 4 soon.

How does Whis causing her to be born indicate that it must be age 780?

If she is 3, then this contradicts Bulma saying that she hasn't seen Goku in 5 years.

Here's a timeline I dug up from @Bullza that makes a lot of sense.

Spoiler:

August Age 778 - Bulma's birthday is August 13. In the Battle of Gods saga she's celebrating her birthday so yeah August. The Dragon Balls were gathered and a wish was made.

At least August Age 779 - Would be when the balls became active once again and then Frieza was revived and we got the wish for one million zeni and the ice cream.

At least December Age 779 - Frieza trained for 4 months so the battle with Golden Frieza would be around here.

At least August Age 780 - The Dragon Balls became active again and shortly before the Universe 6 Tournament Shenron is summoned and Beerus wishes for him to scram. Then there's the Tournament and the Super Dragon Balls are used to bring back U6's Earth.

At least August 781 - Would be where we should be now. They said that the Super Dragon Balls had been gathered once again and Zuno said after they were used they couldn't be used again for a year (a cockroaches life span).

We should be in at least August of age 781. Bulma's birthday is in August 4 years after the Buu arc, so August of Age 778, then a year for Freeza's wish, a year for the wish in the U6 arc, then another year for the Super Dragon Balls to refresh. EoZ is in age 784, and so we should be 3 years removed from the 28th TB and so Bulma's comment is contradicted.

Yes, 17 years from Cell to EoZ, but he was asking why Satan said "over 10 years ago". Satan is saying that in Age 780 not at EoZ, so it's 13 years since Satan claimed he defeated Cell.

I mean I was just saying since he said that it was 17 years from Cell to EoZ and you said "not sure where you got 17 years from.

[prince212]

At least August Age 780 - The Dragon Balls became active again and shortly before the Universe 6 Tournament Shenron is summoned and Beerus wishes for him to scram. Then there's the Tournament and the Super Dragon Balls are used to bring back U6's Earth.

Is that in the manga ? Don’t remember at all Beerus asking a wish to Shenron

[shadowfox87]

Here's a timeline I dug up from @Bullza that makes a lot of sense.

Spoiler:

August Age 778 - Bulma's birthday is August 13. In the Battle of Gods saga she's celebrating her birthday so yeah August. The Dragon Balls were gathered and a wish was made.

At least August Age 779 - Would be when the balls became active once again and then Frieza was revived and we got the wish for one million zeni and the ice cream.

At least December Age 779 - Frieza trained for 4 months so the battle with Golden Frieza would be around here.

At least August Age 780 - The Dragon Balls became active again and shortly before the Universe 6 Tournament Shenron is summoned and Beerus wishes for him to scram. Then there's the Tournament and the Super Dragon Balls are used to bring back U6's Earth.

At least August 781 - Would be where we should be now. They said that the Super Dragon Balls had been gathered once again and Zuno said after they were used they couldn't be used again for a year (a cockroaches life span).

We should be in at least August of age 781. Bulma's birthday is in August 4 years after the Buu arc, so August of Age 778, then a year for Freeza's wish, a year for the wish in the U6 arc, then another year for the Super Dragon Balls to refresh. EoZ is in age 784, and so we should be 3 years removed from the 28th TB and so Bulma's comment is contradicted.

According to Chapter 469 of the manga, Dende states that if only 1 wish is granted by Shenron, it will take 1/3 the time to recharge or four months. Source: http://www.kanzenshuu.com/manga/chp-469/

Bulma's birthday is August 18th. Source: http://www.kanzenshuu.com/translations/ ... aphy-data/

Age 779
Pan is born in this year.

Age 780
Bra is born in this year.

(OK, so I’m skipping around a bit here)

While Pan’s birth year has been consistently given as 779, Bra has two different ones. Here and in the GT Perfect Files timeline, it’s given as 780, making her a year younger than Pan. But in her Daizenshuu 7 bio (in the same book as this timeline, as it were), it says she was born in 778, making her a year older than Pan.

Source: viewtopic.php?f=7&t=10336&p=256713

We see that Bra was born AFTER Pan, so it makes sense that she was born a year after. We know that Battle of Gods takes place 4 years after the Buu Saga. Source: http://www.kanzenshuu.com/2015/06/29/dr ... ekly-jump/

Age 774 - Buu Saga
Age 776 - Yo Son Goku and Friends (http://www.kanzenshuu.com/movie/db-jsat/)
Age 778, Early August - Videl becomes pregnant
Age 778, August 18th - Battle of Gods, Shenron is summoned - 1 wish is granted so it will take 4 months to recharge.
Age 778, December 18th - Shenron is fully charged as four months passed. This is the earliest time in which the Dragon Balls were used to revive Freeza. Three wishes were granted so it will take 1 year to recharge.
At least Age 779, April - Revival of F begins. Freeza has finished his four months of training. (We don't know when exactly he got revived, it can also be after April.)
May 8th~May 20th, Age 779 - Pan is born. (Latest Pan can be born so that she's still 4 years old during the 28th Tenkaichi Budokai and she's not overdue.)
Age 779, December 18th - Universe 6 saga begins. Shenron is summoned. Beerus wishes for him to scram. 1 wish was granted so 4 months to recharge. Super Shenron is summoned and a wish is granted.
Late Age 779 to Early Age 780- Shenron is summoned again and has 2 wishes left so not fully recharged which means less than 4 months has passed. 1 wish is used to cure Pan's fever. Shenron doesn't grant the third wish and leaves. This means 8 months until he is fully recharged.
At least Age 780, December - ToP arc begins. Super Dragon Balls are re-activated as 1 full year has passed. They are collected as prize for Tournament of Power. Bra is born. Note that ToP was only 48 minutes. Broly arc. Galactic Patrol Prisoner arc.
Age 781, May - 27th Tenkaichi Budokai
Age 784, May - 28th Tenkaichi Budokai. Pan is 4 years old. Goku hasn't visited Bulma for 5 years.

This is consistent and makes sense. Pan is 4 years old as stated during the 28th Tenkaichi Budokai which is fine since she will turn 5 in after May. Bra is 3 years old and will turn 4 also later in the year. Also, confirmation that only 2 years have passed since Battle of Gods is given to us in DBS Broly movie. In the movie, it says 41 years ago, Planet Vegeta existed. Beerus set an alarm clock to sleep for 39 years at that time so that he would wake up in Age 778. Hence, it's Age 780 right now in DBS.

[TKA]

Arguing over such specific details like a character's age when that kind of granular thing has never been consistent in dragonball seems so pedantic.

[PFM18]

Wow, this is an extremely detailed and thorough post. Bravo. I'm impressed.

According to Chapter 469 of the manga, Dende states that if only 1 wish is granted by Shenron, it will take 1/3 the time to recharge or four months.

Alright, I forgot about this. But to be honest, i don't think Toei/Toyotaro/Toriyama are really considering this. I doubt they actually recall it.

In the movie, it says 41 years ago, Planet Vegeta existed

Well, we need to be 7 years removed from the Buu arc for that to work. So we are 41 years removed from Goku's death, and working backwards through Dragon Ball:

Buu arc-7 years prior; Goku is 34
Cell arc-7 years prior; Goku is 27
Trunks arc-3 years prior; Goku is 24
Namek arc- ~1 year prior since Goku spent almost a year around in space on his way back to Earth being on Planet Yardrat and such; Goku is 23
Saiyan Arc- ~1 week/negligible time prior; Goku is still 23
23rd TB arc- 5 years prior; Goku became an Adult at the start of the arc, and a 5 year time skip followed from then to the Saiyan arc; Goku is 18

So as far as I see it, for this to hold up we need to be in 7 years removed from the Buu arc or in Age 781. But either way, whether the ToP be in Age 780 or Age 781, Bulma still has seen Goku within the last 5 years and it contradicts EoZ.

Arguing over such specific details like a character's age when that kind of granular thing has never been consistent in dragonball seems so pedantic.

Wow, well this contributes absolutely nothing to the discussion.

If you decided not to act so pompous, you would realize that this has very important repercussions in the series.

[shadowfox87]

Well, we need to be 7 years removed from the Buu arc for that to work. So we are 41 years removed from Goku's death, and working backwards through Dragon Ball:

Buu arc-7 years prior; Goku is 34
Cell arc-7 years prior; Goku is 27
Trunks arc-3 years prior; Goku is 24
Namek arc- ~1 year prior since Goku spent almost a year around in space on his way back to Earth being on Planet Yardrat and such; Goku is 23
Saiyan Arc- ~1 week/negligible time prior; Goku is still 23
23rd TB arc- 5 years prior; Goku became an Adult at the start of the arc, and a 5 year time skip followed from then to the Saiyan arc; Goku is 18

So as far as I see it, for this to hold up we need to be in 7 years removed from the Buu arc or in Age 781. But either way, whether the ToP be in Age 780 or Age 781, Bulma still has seen Goku within the last 5 years and it contradicts EoZ.

I don't understand what you're saying. Why are you even bringing Goku's age into this? I'm only looking at the facts here:

Age 739 - Planet Vegeta is destroyed. Beerus takes a nap.
Age 774, May - Buu arc starts and finishes
Age 778 - Battle of Gods starts. Beerus wakes up from his 39 year nap.
Age 780 - DBS Broly movie says that 41 years ago, Planet Vegeta got destroyed.

I've given you the sources for all the above. It's Age 780 currently in DBS Broly which is after the Tournament of Power. Goku not visiting Bulma in 5 years is consistent. It's only not consistent if you say Age 781 which it is not.

[PFM18]

Well, we need to be 7 years removed from the Buu arc for that to work. So we are 41 years removed from Goku's death, and working backwards through Dragon Ball:

Buu arc-7 years prior; Goku is 34
Cell arc-7 years prior; Goku is 27
Trunks arc-3 years prior; Goku is 24
Namek arc- ~1 year prior since Goku spent almost a year around in space on his way back to Earth being on Planet Yardrat and such; Goku is 23
Saiyan Arc- ~1 week/negligible time prior; Goku is still 23
23rd TB arc- 5 years prior; Goku became an Adult at the start of the arc, and a 5 year time skip followed from then to the Saiyan arc; Goku is 18

So as far as I see it, for this to hold up we need to be in 7 years removed from the Buu arc or in Age 781. But either way, whether the ToP be in Age 780 or Age 781, Bulma still has seen Goku within the last 5 years and it contradicts EoZ.

I don't understand what you're saying. Why are you even bringing Goku's age into this? I'm only looking at the facts here:

Age 739 - Planet Vegeta is destroyed. Beerus takes a nap.
Age 774, May - Buu arc starts and finishes
Age 778 - Battle of Gods starts. Beerus wakes up from his 39 year nap.
Age 780 - DBS Broly movie says that 41 years ago, Planet Vegeta got destroyed.

I've given you the sources for all the above. It's Age 780 currently in DBS Broly which is after the Tournament of Power.

...because the movie dictates that Goku was born 41 years ago? If we were 6 years removed from the Buu arc then Goku would be 40 years old and not 41, contradicting the movie.

Edit: Wait, Goku isn't born the same year that the Planet Vegeta going by the Minus timeline of things.