Exline wrote:Wait is that really what happened? I thought the Majin Buu ordeal was set up for the Broly Arc? Wow. It's probably for the best another mangaka handle it too.
And Idk, I feel Toyotaro wasn't even trying. It was much clearer in those two chapters centered around Kale that he just wanted to get rid of the fighters as fast possible. Any capable writer is able to make a plausible story out of this arc, Toyotaro chose not to. We've seen what he can do in the previous arcs that were much better.
I also agree with your criticisms on the entirety of the arc. Toyotaro reuses a lot of panels and martial art choreography that it gets ridiculously repetitive. Toyotaro chose not to give it his all this arc.
Sorry if I did not respond to you in a timely manner, this thread moves fast sometimes when the back and forth nuh huh and yuh huh rears its head in here.
It seems that I might had spoken too soon; it seems that the promotional Broly manga is mostly going to still Toyotaro. A grave disappointment and a miss opportunity to have some fresh blood in here; all is well.
EDIT: OOPS! SPOKEN TOO SOON AGAIN. Naho Ooishi and Yoshitaka Nagayama is doing the promotional manga; now I'm actually looking forward for this.
Of course, any plausible writer can make a competent story block, and sometimes, it works wonders, depending on the mangaka’s experience on dealing with those type of arcs. Toyotaro’s issues, personally, is that he could not handle the load of many characters at once. The first chapter that started the tournament of power was a good start; afterwards, the supposed “chaotic feeling” of a battle royale vanished with more and more focus on one-to-one fights and a bunch of uninterested fluff in between. One of those fluffs is, as you phrase it, repetitive panels, reactions shots, punches, weird kicks and the sort. I was not expecting anything like Yuusuke Murata or ONE level of choreography, paneling and composition but I expected a bit more considering that he drawn for a very long, long time—he moved on from these things.
There were a few things that I thought “hey, that’s kind of cool”, but it essentially digging through a field of turds just to find gems. The Frost and Freeza ordeal was interesting, but the time-lag concept, in my eyes, dumb. Perhaps it is because I do not have some basic books on understanding this, but if someone’s time slowed to the point that they are unable to do anything since everything else moves super-fast, then regardless if they are holding back or not, it should not speed up their time… whatever that means; but hey, what can you do? Of course, these are just few examples out of a bunch that I thought was weird, awkward and just plain “well, perhaps there should have been another way of doing this; I know what he’s doing, but the execution does not seem to match his intentions well enough.”
I hoping that Toyotaro steps it up in this “Galactic Patrol Arc”; this will be the first time for the promotional manga to be ahead of the anime, so I expecting some huge highlights since everyone’s eyes is now narrowly focus on his content now more than ever, rather than occasional quips here and there.
alakazam^ wrote:That's exactly it, thanks for paying attention to the chapter.
It is no problem, I am glad that someone actually pointed that weird scene.
I mean, one can make an interpretation that everyone was happening so fast that the characters just did not think straight or could not react in a timely fashion, but the way the panels are structure, I have my doubts. I mean, Jiren could have have dispatch Goku, then gone after Vegeta (or just blow them away at the same time since they are losing their shit that despite Jiren being bruised up, he is still walking). It definitely feels like plot armor, haha. It is not exactly story breaking, personally, just a jarring moment that make you go “Huh…”
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