"Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread

[PsionicWarrior]

Well to me it feels really right, it's heavily built upon DB mythology, there is an actual threat from a REAL villain (long time no see, last was Zamas...), I am really hoping that they take the opportunity to dig on Genki Dama's lore further, Moro could very well be capable of doing an "Evil Genki Dama" for all we know, that would be amazing. Vegeta got his ass kicked that's a classic but so did Goku and that happens less often, I found it great that they couldn't use their power it puts some stakes back in again, even if they Gogeta it will be useless I love that,
I even got goosebumps when Goku said the chi wasn't very strong but felt ominous, that Moro could feel him looking for him too, I seriously dig all that,
Goku also feels like Goku this time so thumbs up there too, only beef I have left is Beerus and Whis are really a handicap to the story since every time they need to justify that they don't intervene

[Kanassa]

Well to me it feels really right, it's heavily built upon DB mythology, there is an actual threat from a REAL villain (long time no see, last was Zamas...)

I don't think you can say long time no see when 'one arc' is the long time...

[PsionicWarrior]

Well to me it feels really right, it's heavily built upon DB mythology, there is an actual threat from a REAL villain (long time no see, last was Zamas...)

I don't think you can say long time no see when 'one arc' is the long time...

And when was the last time before Zamas? The majority of Super has no real villain

[HeroR]

Well to me it feels really right, it's heavily built upon DB mythology, there is an actual threat from a REAL villain (long time no see, last was Zamas...)

I don't think you can say long time no see when 'one arc' is the long time...

And when was the last time before Zamas? The majority of Super has no real villain

Freeza in the retelling of Resurrection 'F'. When then have Freeza again and Broly's dad in the Broly movie. So Super went no villain (Beerus), villain (Freeza), no villain (Champa), villain (Zamasu and Black), no villain, and villain (Freeza and Broly's dad).

[PsionicWarrior]

You're missing some like Hit or Jiren,
Didn't think of counting Freeza in this thread but ok

[Piccolo_Daima]

Rumors say that the Super Namekian who got beat by Moro isn't dead, that could mean that he's gonna fuse with Piccolo and we'll have the Super Namekian God.

I can't wait.

[SaiyanTarzan]

Rumors say that the Super Namekian who got beat by Moro isn't dead, that could mean that he's gonna fuse with Piccolo and we'll have the Super Namekian God.

I can't wait.

I won't lie when I say that made me laugh harder than I thought I would. It reminds me of early speculation when the Universe 6 arc started and many were saying how Piccolo is going to get a God boost.

[Kanassa]

You're missing some like Hit or Jiren,
Didn't think of counting Freeza in this thread but ok

How? They mentioned the Champa arc and the TOP Arc.

And if we're not counting the retellings then it's 'NO Villain, Villain, No Villain, Villain'. So, the point still stands.

[Piccolo_Daima]

Rumors say that the Super Namekian who got beat by Moro isn't dead, that could mean that he's gonna fuse with Piccolo and we'll have the Super Namekian God.

I can't wait.

I won't lie when I say that made me laugh harder than I thought I would. It reminds me of early speculation when the Universe 6 arc started and many were saying how Piccolo is going to get a God boost.

This time is different, the arc is taking place on Namek, they talked about a Legendary Namekian and Goku and Vegeta are hurt so they can't fight. All the roads lead to Piccolo becoming in the Super Namekian God

[Michsi]

But there's no legendary Namekian. Tsuburi is basically what Saonel and Pirina were in the TOP.


That Piccolo might end up fusing with this fellow, I dunno, maybe? If this is supposed to be Namek arc 2.0, yes, that might happen. But I doubt it will result in anything other than a somewhat stronger Piccolo. The "god" power up isn't about strength or ki amount.

[emperior]

Rumors say that the Super Namekian who got beat by Moro isn't dead, that could mean that he's gonna fuse with Piccolo and we'll have the Super Namekian God.

I can't wait.

I won't lie when I say that made me laugh harder than I thought I would. It reminds me of early speculation when the Universe 6 arc started and many were saying how Piccolo is going to get a God boost.

This time is different, the arc is taking place on Namek, they talked about a Legendary Namekian and Goku and Vegeta are hurt so they can't fight. All the roads lead to Piccolo becoming in the Super Namekian God

The roads lead to nothing. The Namekian is most likely dead, and he wasn’t called “legendary”.
And I say this as a Piccolo fan who would welcome a power-boost for Piccolo. But I’m not getting my hopes up.

[Saiga]

That would be laughable. They literally did the same thing with Nail (right down for being beaten & left for dead by the villain before Piccolo finds them), it would be a blatant retread just to give Piccolo a power up. And he's not even in this arc right now, nor does he have any reason to get involved.

I get why people want a power up for Piccolo (even if I disagree) but I have to say this would be one of the worst ways to go about it.

[PsionicWarrior]

You're missing some like Hit or Jiren,
Didn't think of counting Freeza in this thread but ok

How? They mentioned the Champa arc and the TOP Arc.

And if we're not counting the retellings then it's 'NO Villain, Villain, No Villain, Villain'. So, the point still stands.

Beerus, Champa, Hit, Jiren... Zamasu and Freeza. I guess Freeza doesn't give me much impression here on this aspect because we know him for so long, also he grew diplomatic
I also consider Broly is in the grey area, Paragus... I mean he's just in the background

It's not really important though lol

[HeroR]

You're missing some like Hit or Jiren,
Didn't think of counting Freeza in this thread but ok

Hit and Jiren are not 'villains', they're antagonists. That and you said that Super had no villains except Zamasu, except Freeza would technical count. That and Broly's dad since he's the reason why Broly is so messed up in the head and would have attacked Vegeta regardless of Freeza. So he really isn't a background character in that regard.

[Michsi]

nor does he have any reason to get involved.

I understand the criticism regarding the Namek arc/Nail similarities, but no reason to get involved?

[Saiga]

nor does he have any reason to get involved.

I understand the criticism regarding the Namek arc/Nail similarities, but no reason to get involved?

He hasn't been involved in a meaningful fashion for a long time. Why would he suddenly come into play now?

In-universe, he also doesn't even know what's going on and New Name is kind of hidden away. It'd be pretty illogical for him to show up here.

[Michsi]

nor does he have any reason to get involved.

I understand the criticism regarding the Namek arc/Nail similarities, but no reason to get involved?

He hasn't been involved in a meaningful fashion for a long time. Why would he suddenly come into play now?

In-universe, he also doesn't even know what's going on and New Name is kind of hidden away. It'd be pretty illogical for him to show up here.

Since when did that stop Dragon Ball before? We already know Bulma has been informed of what's going on and Dende knows where New Namek is. Capsule Corp has had ships that could reach old Namek in a couple of days for years, I imagine it wouldn't be complicated for them to make their way there if they wanted to.

As for Piccolo, it's Namek! That's all the reason he needs. He's been shoved into arcs with no other intent than to remind us of his presence and because he's popular, but you'd find it odd that they'd look for a way to involve him here? Dende is even further out of his league here and has a responsibility on Earth and I still wouldn't be surprised or hold it against him if he wanted to lend a hand.

[PsionicWarrior]

Hit and Jiren are not 'villains', they're antagonists.

Precisely, we saw more antagonists than villains in Super, not saying this as a critic to keep in mind

That and you said that Super had no villains except Zamasu, except Freeza would technical count. That and Broly's dad since he's the reason why Broly is so messed up in the head and would have attacked Vegeta regardless of Freeza. So he really isn't a background character in that regard.

Even if he has purpose he still is a background character, and by himself is not much of a threat

[HeroR]

Hit and Jiren are not 'villains', they're antagonists.

Precisely, we saw more antagonists than villains in Super, not saying this as a critic to keep in mind

That and you said that Super had no villains except Zamasu, except Freeza would technical count. That and Broly's dad since he's the reason why Broly is so messed up in the head and would have attacked Vegeta regardless of Freeza. So he really isn't a background character in that regard.

Even if he has purpose he still is a background character, and by himself is not much of a threat

Personally don't mind since the antagonists have been more interesting that villains who are evil just cause that populated Z. Even Freeza has an extra layer to him now other than being 'Evil Emperor'.

Broly's father isn't a background character since he's literally the reason why Broly is the way that he is, an unstable man child who Freeza easily manipulated. Certain things simply wouldn't have happened in the Broly movie if it wasn't for him.

[PsionicWarrior]

Broly's father isn't a background character since he's literally the reason why Broly is the way that he is, an unstable man child who Freeza easily manipulated. Certain things simply wouldn't have happened in the Broly movie if it wasn't for him.

I don't disagree with you but he still is a background character in the sense he doesn't give the chills, he can get killed so easily by the main cast and that is exactly what happened