"Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread

[JulieYBM]

It's almost poetic that this awful arc won't end.

[OLKv3]

I’m fucking pissed and dissapointed that we didn’t see Goku attain MUI in today’s manga draft pages... I’m very shocked and NEGATIVELY surprised. I would’ve at least liked to have gotten some confirmation on it...

Now ofcourse that in no way is proof that it won’t happen.. But I would’ve just loved to have some confirmation on it. That is all.

He starts transforming on the final draft page

[GodVegetto91]

I’m fucking pissed and dissapointed that we didn’t see Goku attain MUI in today’s manga draft pages... I’m very shocked and NEGATIVELY surprised. I would’ve at least liked to have gotten some confirmation on it...

Now ofcourse that in no way is proof that it won’t happen.. But I would’ve just loved to have some confirmation on it. That is all.

He starts transforming on the final draft page

I hope so... I hope so.

I guess my expectations were a bit too extreme. Expecting to see an already transformed MUI Goku during the draft panels. Ofcourse there’s a whole emotional process involved towards transforming ofcourse and that takes quite a few pages, which I forgot. Apologies..

[Kinokima]

Why would you want the biggest moment spoiled in the draft pages?

Granted it will be spoiled anyways but they probably want to leave that moment to the actual chapter.

[EGonzo]

Does anyone consider merus and goku's friendship forced? I am not saying that gohan and android 16 had any development but it made sense due to the interests and personality of both ... peaceful people who want to protect the earth with merus and goku there is no connection outside of master and disciple for 3 days ... I think with gohan it would have worked better or beerus and goku

It was super forced, especially since all we saw of it was a flashback just before Meerus dies. I'm not sure why people try to compare them to Gohan and 16 - they weren't friends, 16 was just the trigger to Gohan's transformation. He saw everyone getting beat up but not dying, and 16's death (plus the pep talk) was that little push to send him over the edge

[Neon Z]

I’m fucking pissed and dissapointed that we didn’t see Goku attain MUI in today’s manga draft pages... I’m very shocked and NEGATIVELY surprised. I would’ve at least liked to have gotten some confirmation on it...

Now ofcourse that in no way is proof that it won’t happen.. But I would’ve just loved to have some confirmation on it. That is all.

He starts transforming on the final draft page

I hope so... I hope so.

I guess my expectations were a bit too extreme. Expecting to see an already transformed MUI Goku during the draft panels. Ofcourse there’s a whole emotional process involved towards transforming ofcourse and that takes quite a few pages, which I forgot. Apologies..

This is probably following Merus' explanation about UI from before. It's triggered after the user surpasses an emotional shock. That seems to be what those pages are conveying. Goku initially controls his anger, then reminisces about Merus and his dream of protecting the galaxy (also asking Jaco why he fought for the Patrol) and only then transforms.

Does anyone consider merus and goku's friendship forced? I am not saying that gohan and android 16 had any development but it made sense due to the interests and personality of both ... peaceful people who want to protect the earth with merus and goku there is no connection outside of master and disciple for 3 days ... I think with gohan it would have worked better or beerus and goku

It was super forced, especially since all we saw of it was a flashback just before Meerus dies. I'm not sure why people try to compare them to Gohan and 16 - they weren't friends, 16 was just the trigger to Gohan's transformation. He saw everyone getting beat up but not dying, and 16's death (plus the pep talk) was that little push to send him over the edge

Huh? We got two scenes before that. Although that's still not much, but it wasn't just that flashback.

[Xeogran]

I hate how uninformed Moro is in regards to GoDs and Angels. It truly seems his deity knowledge ends at Kaioshins, despite being this million years old Wizard. Zamasu, Jiren and Hit all knew about Angels yet our currently longest antagonist is now all like "Huh who was that guy why is he strong??

It takes away his badassery points, not to mention makes him look less threatening too with all those shocked faces.

[Tai Lung]

The drafts are out, for those who were waiting for them.

Does anyone consider merus and goku's friendship forced? I am not saying that gohan and android 16 had any development but it made sense due to the interests and personality of both ... peaceful people who want to protect the earth with merus and goku there is no connection outside of master and disciple for 3 days ... I think with gohan it would have worked better or beerus and goku

It wasn't 3 days, it was 3 or 6 months

Merus says .. that in that "rosat" 1 day was 3 days

[OLKv3]

The drafts are out, for those who were waiting for them.

Does anyone consider merus and goku's friendship forced? I am not saying that gohan and android 16 had any development but it made sense due to the interests and personality of both ... peaceful people who want to protect the earth with merus and goku there is no connection outside of master and disciple for 3 days ... I think with gohan it would have worked better or beerus and goku

It wasn't 3 days, it was 3 or 6 months

Merus says .. that in that "rosat" 1 day was 3 days

So it was months

[Tai Lung]

The drafts are out, for those who were waiting for them.



It wasn't 3 days, it was 3 or 6 months

Merus says .. that in that "rosat" 1 day was 3 days

So it was months

[Matches Malone]

I’m fucking pissed and dissapointed that we didn’t see Goku attain MUI in today’s manga draft pages.

I actually would've been surprised to see it, as I think it's too big of a moment to show in such a way.

So basically what happened in the ToP when Vegeta "blew hismelf up" only to be perfectly fine

Yes, come to think of it, yes. Another example is him saying he was out of power, only to fully power up in the next episode.

[FrioPolar]

Merus and Goku were together for 6 months.





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[The Undying]

I’m fucking pissed and dissapointed that we didn’t see Goku attain MUI in today’s manga draft pages... I’m very shocked and NEGATIVELY surprised. I would’ve at least liked to have gotten some confirmation on it...

Slow your roll.

You'll get the actual chapter in a week's time. Previews like this one here are designed to give readers a taste of what's to come, not partake in instant gratification.

[Xeogran]

Slow your roll.

You'll get the actual chapter in a week's time. Previews like this one here are designed to give readers a taste of what's to come, not partake in instant gratification.

Well to be honest, these previews are just the first pages of the chapter. If Toyotaro wanted to start it out with MUI, then these would spoil it.

[HulkTySSJ4]

Dragon Ball is specifically made to be predictable.
Don't know why anyone would be surprised...

[Matches Malone]

Dragon Ball is specifically made to be predictable.

The original manga is anything but predictable.

[Xeogran]

Dragon Ball is specifically made to be predictable.
Don't know why anyone would be surprised...

Because Zeno erasing the entirety of Trunks' timeline, or Frieza allying with Goku for a Tournament sure were predictable.

[emperior]

As expected Goku was calm in front of what just happened.

I like how he says he has inherited the Galactic Patrol’s and Merus’ will. This may be the first time (canonically) that Goku fights not for his own sake but for the universe as well.
This surprisingly fits very well with the fact that there’s no personal connection between Moro and Goku.

[Matches Malone]

This may be the first time (canonically) that Goku fights not for his own sake but for the universe as well.

This surprisingly fits very well with the fact that there’s no personal connection between Moro and Goku.

Goku fought king Piccolo to avenge Krillin and Roshi. He also fought Freeza to avenge the Saiyans and Namakians.

I've been thinking how they'd make it work, and this definitely takes care of that problem. Now let's hope he gets the job done instead of messing up at the last minute only to have to wait for another fight to take place.

[FortuneSSJ]

Dragon Ball is specifically made to be predictable.
Don't know why anyone would be surprised...

Because Zeno erasing the entirety of Trunks' timeline, or Frieza allying with Goku for a Tournament sure were predictable.

Or nobody beating Beerus in BOG, or Whis rewinding time in ROF, or Goku giving up against Hit and Hit let Monaka win with one puch, or....