"Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread

[Shineman]

By the way, does anyone have an insight of how Merus is pronounced? I have an idea... but I'm pretty sure I'm 100% wrong on its pronunciation.

His name is a joint pun on the Japanese surume--dried, shredded squid--keeping in line with other seafood names within the Galactic Patrol, and mezcal, keeping in line with the alcohol-based names for angels.

Either way, the anglicized name of "Merus" (off of the Japanese Merusu) would be pronounced "Meh-rus," if one wanted to preserve his puns.

Ahh, thank you for answering! Yeah, I definitely said his name wrong for the last couple of months .

And for the coloring pages, aren't they colored by Toyotaro, or done by another colorist just like the Dragon Ball colored manga a few years back? Either way, I'm surprised at the colors for some characters, neutral on it or just indifference.

As for the discussion on Moro, I prefer the goat-design compared to his 73 one; makes him stand out way more.

[TKA]

I just want Moro to be given justice next chapter.

He's a character, not a person. His role is to serve the plot, not to be served by the plot.

There is no "justice" to give. What I want Moro to be given is some goddamn character development or anything to make him even moderately interesting.

[Matches Malone]

I mean that's pretty fair. You think it's too slow? Or too fast?

It's been too slow for a monthly manga. I don't mind pacing issues on weekly manga, because if a chapter is slow then it's just a week wait until the next one. The problem here is that a fight will be set up, such as Omen Goku vs Moro, only to be told at the end it wasn't the "real" fight, and that we'll have to wait yet another month for it. They also spent too much time with the side characters and Moro's men. This won't be an issue once it's animated, as the wait between episodes will just be a week, but it's definitely an issue for monthly reading.

[GodVegetto91]

I mean that's pretty fair. You think it's too slow? Or too fast?

It's been too slow for a monthly manga. I don't mind pacing issues on weekly manga, because if a chapter is slow then it's just a week wait until the next one. The problem here is that a fight will be set up, such as Omen Goku vs Moro, only to be told at the end it wasn't the "real" fight, and that we'll have to wait yet another month for it. They also spent too much time with the side characters and Moro's men. This won't be an issue once it's animated, as the wait between episodes will just be a week, but it's definitely an issue for monthly reading.

I agree with you. But don’t seem to realize just how long a month really is. Especially when the waiting occurs EVERY month again. If the manga was weekly, it would have been so much more satisfying.

[Xeogran]

I just want Moro to be given justice next chapter.

He's a character, not a person. His role is to serve the plot, not to be served by the plot.

There is no "justice" to give. What I want Moro to be given is some goddamn character development or anything to make him even moderately interesting.

DB franchise sadly isn't known for it's backstories, which is why they barely ever happen. I would love a chapter at least half spent on Moro's past (and not him fighting Grand Kaioshin, but who he even is and where he comes from, why is he evil?)

But since they like never happen, many readers would think it to be more prolonging and "waste of a month", which is why Toyotaro is afraid of doing them

[Tai Lung]

I've seen the chapter ... does this feel much shorter or is it my idea?
annyway I will praise the drawing and the new design of goku UI much more muscular ... the previous design of the top I did not sincerely like

I can't say much there was nothing more than just the main fight ...
I will only say that the drama and the dialogues do not have the "weight" that they should have ... because We do not know to Merus, which planets he helped or because he cares about mortals in any case it is not his universe ... at least with Zamasu he gave time to show the viewer why he hated them in anime and manga but anyway I will have to complain about the same ones that others have already said toyotaro lacks creativity when it comes to showing fights and skills outside of some "brutal" scene with holes in the stomach ... does not take advantage of all the potential that Moro has as a magician ... and although it sounds strange, Merus' fight felt much better and more interesting, it is not necessary to clarify that it does not seem like a final fight

[Cipher]

And for the coloring pages, aren't they colored by Toyotaro, or done by another colorist just like the Dragon Ball colored manga a few years back? Either way, I'm surprised at the colors for some characters, neutral on it or just indifference.

The color Super volumes are done by uncredited colorist teams (?), just like all of Shueisha's other colored Jump manga lines. (DB, JoJo, One Piece, Naruto, etc.)

Since there are spots that deviate from the artists' own coloring, including in Super, it's unlikely the original artists get much or any say in them (or choose not to have much do to busy schedules; I'm not privy to what the workflow is).

All of their colored manga lines do tend to reference the original artists' coloration style and coloring choices though, even if there are deviations. While Super takes some cues from the anime, there's also a general attempt to privilege consistency with Toyotaro's own colored illustrations and especially volume covers. In general (again, there are exceptions), their reference/privilege order seems to be 1. Toyotaro's cover illustrations, and where no reference in those exists, 2. the anime. (Sometimes Toyotaro himself isn't consistent as well; he has color illustrations with both pink- and tan-armed Piccolo, for example.)

[Xeogran]

Drafts are out

https://twitter.com/DbsHype/status/1315821438562004992
https://twitter.com/DbsHype/status/1315821674806165504

Spoiler:

of course... we are in the Cell saga after all

[Kinokima]

The spoilers are worse than I imagined lol

[Lord Beerus]

Oh my God... talk about artificially extending the plot...

[Kodoshin]

Afraid to analyze anything out in the open here without it being some sort of spoiler or implication of one-- so on to the tag.

Spoiler:

Ugh. I can appreciate that they are (likely) setting something up to subvert our expectations based on how similar this is to events from the Cell fight, but I really hate how often DBS has to throw back to the "good old days". Honestly though, the way the last chapter ended I thought this was going to be a twist on the end of RoF, so I'm not feeling more or less trepidation than I already did.

I don't want to jump to conclusions too fast though. Maybe it'll go somewhere good.

[JulieYBM]

Sweet jumping jackle lanterns, Gokuu better straight up kill Moro in this chapter so this fight can be done with.

[Alruneia]

Time for the usual complaints about the drafts which tend to be addressed by the full chapter, I guess.
Though I have to say that I'm having a bit of an "I told you so" moment with a certain plot point in these drafts. (I don't remember if I said it here, though.) I'll avoid mentioning it directly due to spoilers, but put simply, Toyotaro didn't set it up in order to not use it, and there you go, now he's using it.

[Kinokima]

Time for the usual complaints about the drafts which tend to be addressed by the full chapter, I guess.
Though I have to say that I'm having a bit of an "I told you so" moment with a certain plot point in these drafts. (I don't remember if I said it here, though.) I'll avoid mentioning it directly due to spoilers, but put simply, Toyotaro didn't set it up in order to not use it, and there you go, now he's using it.

Here is the thing no matter how it turns out (whether Goku wins or loses) its disappointing to me so the draft pages are very much enough for me to judge because what comes next doesn’t matter.

[Femme Fatale Kikaza]

Can someone explained what happened? I don't understand by looking at the pics...What did Goku give him?

[ZombieVito]

Can they fire him already please?

[Jack Bz]

Cool thing to see Goku use hakai on that rock, I dig it. I thought the fact that Goku knows that technique was going to be ignored forever.

[Femme Fatale Kikaza]

Wait was that a senzu bean he gave Moro? UUUUUUUUUUUGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHH!!! We're repeating the same mistake! Is Goku incapable of learning from things?

[DiscountDabi]

Spoiler:

The Only thing that would make this satisfying is if after giving him the bean, Goku one shots moro and he’s collapsed again and he asks Krillin for another and he keeps healing him and beating him down over and over until Moro gets the idea. Only saving grace I see here

[HulkTySSJ4]

Spoiler:

The Only thing that would make this satisfying is if after giving him the bean, Goku one shots moro and he’s collapsed again and he asks Krillin for another and he keeps healing him and beating him down over and over until Moro gets the idea. Only saving grace I see here

Too good to be true...