OLKv3 wrote: ↑Mon Dec 06, 2021 7:57 am
Ultra Ego was Toyotaro's design and idea. Got the ok from Toriyama after he explained it to him. His design is based off Beerus like how Toyotaro assumes Goku's silver hair is based off of Angels.
Bardock's inclusion was also a Toyotaro idea. He asked Toriyama questions about his personality and ultimately got the ok to insert him. He's apparently an important part of this arc.
Toyotaro revealed previously that he also designed Granolah right? Knowing all this, how much of this story did Toriyama actually write? Because it sounds just like the creation of the Moro arc, where it's mostly Toyo with some Tori ideas.
Yeah, even half of the Gods of Destruction and many ToP designs were done by Toyo.
As much as I miss Toriyama and I am a purist in some way, I think that Toyo is better at designs that fit the contemporary look of Dragon Ball that stems from Cell and Buu arc and was kept for anime going forward. Toriyama is completely somewhere else design-wise nowadays, and it is sometimes like punch in the eye when you see his design sheets next to the anime or Toyo's manga.
He is like Katsuyoshi Nakatsuru of the manga media.
But I would love to know how much really is Toriyama involved story-wise. My idea based on the info we have is something around, guys, we have Granolah, a guy with grudge because Saiyans invaded his planet, Vegeta learns some Beerus techniques and band of mercenaries linked to Freeza. Rest is up to you, bye
And then he is just getting stuff back to comment on and approve.