"Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread
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I definitely like what I have read.
1: I like the fact that the theme of this arc of characters getting stronger by stealing techniques and energy has been addressed by Goku, who notes that those sort of techniques come 2nd to training.
2: saying that Goku tells Moro to "go away train to fight again later" is so so so disingenuous, and people are looking to be get angry. That just isn't the case at all. Goku doesn't give Moro the option of not going to prison, and actually decides to kill him. Goku bringing up training is used to make clear to Moro where he went wrong, and he just voices his disappointment in Moro's methods. Learn to read.
3: I'm pleased that Moro couldn't control Merus' power. Kinda disappointing that it's only ultra instinct they're talking about in regards to what he copied. Angels can do all kind of things, but I guess that would be too insane.
1: I like the fact that the theme of this arc of characters getting stronger by stealing techniques and energy has been addressed by Goku, who notes that those sort of techniques come 2nd to training.
2: saying that Goku tells Moro to "go away train to fight again later" is so so so disingenuous, and people are looking to be get angry. That just isn't the case at all. Goku doesn't give Moro the option of not going to prison, and actually decides to kill him. Goku bringing up training is used to make clear to Moro where he went wrong, and he just voices his disappointment in Moro's methods. Learn to read.
3: I'm pleased that Moro couldn't control Merus' power. Kinda disappointing that it's only ultra instinct they're talking about in regards to what he copied. Angels can do all kind of things, but I guess that would be too insane.
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Why is it that this pure evil monster got three chances and blew all of them, but Goku never tried sparing/giving a chance to Cell? Nobody even tried to spare him and yet Moro, who is now capable of destroying universe 7 as we know it, has been given 3 chances. What the fuck is the writing staff thinking?Matches Malone wrote: ↑Mon Oct 19, 2020 12:07 pm3 at this point.Femme Fatale Kikaza wrote: ↑Mon Oct 19, 2020 12:00 pm Can you guys count how many chances Moro has gotten at this point? I lost count.
Villains who did half the shit Moro did got killed for their troubles and nobody gave them fifty opportunities to change despite blowing them all. Now Moro is the planet....great.
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SupremeKai25 wrote: ↑Mon Oct 19, 2020 12:01 pmThe line about Black remains the same in the official VIZ translation.
No it doesn’t just went back and read it
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Why not have vegeta seperate himSupremeKai25 wrote: ↑Mon Oct 19, 2020 11:54 am Actually I'm not sure why this is supposed to be such a tense or dramatic moment. The solution is so simple:
1) Fly to space;
2) Destroy the Earth with one ki blast;
3) Gather the Namekian Dragon Balls and wish everyone back except Moro.
It really isn't hard to find a way out of this mess... Even if they have to wait some time, the solution is clear, it's not like it's a hopeless or utterly bleak scenario.
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It seems like to me that this whole scenario with Moro merging with the Earth was set up specifically for Vegeta to use his Spirit Fusion technique.
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Goku would've had better luck with Cell when you think about it.Femme Fatale Kikaza wrote: ↑Mon Oct 19, 2020 12:13 pmWhy is it that this pure evil monster got three chances and blew all of them, but Goku never tried sparing/giving a chance to Cell? Nobody even tried to spare him and yet Moro, who is now capable of destroying universe 7 as we know it, has been given 3 chances. What the fuck is the writing staff thinking?
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Oh? Then what does he say in the official translation? I'm genuinely curious.Kinokima wrote: ↑Mon Oct 19, 2020 12:13 pmSupremeKai25 wrote: ↑Mon Oct 19, 2020 12:01 pmThe line about Black remains the same in the official VIZ translation.
No it doesn’t just went back and read it
I forgot about Vegeta, it will depend if Toyotaro and co. want to give him the win. If I'm not mistaken, they were talking about "someone's technique being necessary to win" in the leaks, so it could be Vegeta.Block88 wrote: ↑Mon Oct 19, 2020 12:16 pmWhy not have vegeta seperate himSupremeKai25 wrote: ↑Mon Oct 19, 2020 11:54 am Actually I'm not sure why this is supposed to be such a tense or dramatic moment. The solution is so simple:
1) Fly to space;
2) Destroy the Earth with one ki blast;
3) Gather the Namekian Dragon Balls and wish everyone back except Moro.
It really isn't hard to find a way out of this mess... Even if they have to wait some time, the solution is clear, it's not like it's a hopeless or utterly bleak scenario.
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Pretty lazy honestlyLord Beerus wrote: ↑Mon Oct 19, 2020 12:18 pm It seems like to me that this whole scenario with Moro merging with the Earth was set up specifically for Vegeta to use his Spirit Fusion technique.
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They can't kill him while he's fused with the planet so Vegeta is more or less a sure thing at this point.SupremeKai25 wrote: ↑Mon Oct 19, 2020 12:21 pmI forgot about Vegeta, it will depend if Toyotaro and co. want to give him the win. If I'm not mistaken, they were talking about "someone's technique being necessary to win" in the leaks, so it could be Vegeta.
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SupremeKai25 wrote: ↑Mon Oct 19, 2020 12:21 pmOh? Then what does he say in the official translation? I'm genuinely curious.Kinokima wrote: ↑Mon Oct 19, 2020 12:13 pmSupremeKai25 wrote: ↑Mon Oct 19, 2020 12:01 pm
The line about Black remains the same in the official VIZ translation.
No it doesn’t just went back and read it
I forgot about Vegeta, it will depend if Toyotaro and co. want to give him the win. If I'm not mistaken, they were talking about "someone's technique being necessary to win" in the leaks.Block88 wrote: ↑Mon Oct 19, 2020 12:16 pmWhy not have vegeta seperate himSupremeKai25 wrote: ↑Mon Oct 19, 2020 11:54 am Actually I'm not sure why this is supposed to be such a tense or dramatic moment. The solution is so simple:
1) Fly to space;
2) Destroy the Earth with one ki blast;
3) Gather the Namekian Dragon Balls and wish everyone back except Moro.
It really isn't hard to find a way out of this mess... Even if they have to wait some time, the solution is clear, it's not like it's a hopeless or utterly bleak scenario.
The line was just damnit
As for the last part about someone’s technique being necessary to win that sounded like just speculation to me
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No yeah I know the line "What a dick!" was changed, the important part is when Goku urges Vegeta to kill Black. That's my point. Goku really doesn't want to kill Moro, even though a few arcs prior he was urging Vegeta to kill a beaten and suffering enemy.
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Black also did nothing close to what Moro's done, but Goku was smart enough to know what needed to be done.SupremeKai25 wrote: ↑Mon Oct 19, 2020 12:25 pmGoku really doesn't want to kill Moro, even though a few arcs prior he was urging Vegeta to kill a beaten and suffering enemy.
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I just hope that Vegeta can do it, because spirit fissioning a planet instead of a person might be really tricky.Matches Malone wrote: ↑Mon Oct 19, 2020 12:25 pmThey have to separate him unless they want to kill earth goodbye, which is something Vegeta can only do.
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It might be easier as he won't have to try and catch him, he can put his hands anywhere on the planet and do whatever's needed.Femme Fatale Kikaza wrote: ↑Mon Oct 19, 2020 12:29 pm I just hope that Vegeta can do it, because spirit fissioning a planet instead of a person might be really tricky.
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Matches Malone wrote: ↑Mon Oct 19, 2020 12:25 pmThey have to separate him unless they want to kill earth goodbye, which is something Vegeta can only do.
Sure it’s something he can do but it’s not the only way to end the chapter. It’s also predictable and DB seems to love twists endings over predictability
I guess we will see
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Boy I can't wait to see what Boo does.
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Honestly, sometimes a simple and predictable ending can be far more satisfying than a twist ending.Kinokima wrote: ↑Mon Oct 19, 2020 12:33 pmMatches Malone wrote: ↑Mon Oct 19, 2020 12:25 pmThey have to separate him unless they want to kill earth goodbye, which is something Vegeta can only do.
Sure it’s something he can do but it’s not the only way to end the chapter. It’s also predictable and DB seems to love twists endings over predictability
I guess we will see
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Is it me or Toyotaro can't write without ripping off Toriyama and making the characters dumb (or dumber than usual)?
'Cause the whole Moro arc feels like it's almost nothing but rehashed themes and characters being really, really, REALLY retarded?
'Cause the whole Moro arc feels like it's almost nothing but rehashed themes and characters being really, really, REALLY retarded?