"Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread

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Re: Super's manga by Toyotarō

Post by UpFromTheSkies » Wed Jun 17, 2015 6:23 am

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UpFromTheSkies wrote:A question for the admins... when Super fansubs and scanlations begin to appear online, will we be allowed to discuss them, and compare translations between different groups? Or should we just pretend the proverbial elephant in the room doesn't exist, and not discuss them at all?
Compare translations? Do you realize what you're asking about?
Yes, I know what fansubs are. Unless there will be a simulcast, people will be watching fansubs, and so those translations will be what our conversations of the story will be based on, and I'm sure translation accuracy will come up in discussion.

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Re: Super's manga by Toyotarō

Post by eledoremassis02 » Wed Jun 17, 2015 10:09 am

Good point. I think as long as you dont post links where to read it you'll be good. I see scanlations being used for quick references all the time on here.

I'm getting really excited about this. I wonder if it takes place Resurrection of F? Also..I wish he got a manga adaptation of BOG http://blog.livedoor.jp/hibitanren/arch ... l#comments

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Re: Super's manga by Toyotarō

Post by sangofe » Thu Jun 18, 2015 4:16 am

UpFromTheSkies wrote:
sangofe wrote:
UpFromTheSkies wrote:A question for the admins... when Super fansubs and scanlations begin to appear online, will we be allowed to discuss them, and compare translations between different groups? Or should we just pretend the proverbial elephant in the room doesn't exist, and not discuss them at all?
Compare translations? Do you realize what you're asking about?
Yes, I know what fansubs are. Unless there will be a simulcast, people will be watching fansubs, and so those translations will be what our conversations of the story will be based on, and I'm sure translation accuracy will come up in discussion.
How are you gonna compare fansubs if you don't mention group releases? And how are you not gonna promote fansubs? On this forum, promoting fansubs is an aboslute NO.

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Re: Super's manga by Toyotarō

Post by UpFromTheSkies » Thu Jun 18, 2015 5:51 am

sangofe wrote:How are you gonna compare fansubs if you don't mention group releases? And how are you not gonna promote fansubs? On this forum, promoting fansubs is an aboslute NO.
Fansubs have been discussed before, though, in fact there are entire threads about them, but since Super is brand new, I'm not sure if it will be handled differently. Hopefully there will be a simulcast with a professional translation and we won't need fansubs.

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Re: Super's manga by Toyotarō

Post by Tzigi » Thu Jun 18, 2015 9:56 am

I've got to say the first chapter is really nice. I love seeing

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Re: Super's manga by Toyotarō

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How are you gonna compare fansubs if you don't mention group releases? And how are you not gonna promote fansubs? On this forum, promoting fansubs is an aboslute NO.
From what I understand, the site has nothing against the existence and spread of fansubs. Just don't try to sell them here.
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Re: Super's manga by Toyotarō

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Re: Super's manga by Toyotarō

Post by TheGmGoken » Thu Jun 18, 2015 12:59 pm

Here are more pictures from the manga.
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Re: Super's manga by Toyotarō

Post by NeoKING » Thu Jun 18, 2015 4:01 pm

Something about Toyotaro's art just ... puts me off.

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Re: Super's manga by Toyotarō

Post by Doctor. » Thu Jun 18, 2015 4:12 pm

NeoKING wrote:Something about Toyotaro's art just ... puts me off.
Wait.... isn't your avatar a picture Toyble drew?

I'm confused.

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Re: Super's manga by Toyotarō

Post by Tzigi » Thu Jun 18, 2015 4:41 pm

And, for the fun and educational value, a comparison of Naho Ooishi's (JSAT) and Toyotaro's style (first chapter of DBS):
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I also like the fact that Goku has exactly the same clothes in both stories.

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Re: Super's manga by Toyotarō

Post by soulnova » Thu Jun 18, 2015 4:45 pm

Tzigi wrote:And, for the fun and educational value, a comparison of Naho Ooishi's (JSAT) and Toyotaro's style (first chapter of DBS):
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I also like the fact that Goku has exactly the same clothes in both stories.
Uh. I like Naho's Goku better on those pictures. The poses feels much more natural with her.
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Re: Super's manga by Toyotarō

Post by Retan » Thu Jun 18, 2015 5:01 pm

soulnova wrote:
Tzigi wrote:And, for the fun and educational value, a comparison of Naho Ooishi's (JSAT) and Toyotaro's style (first chapter of DBS):
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I also like the fact that Goku has exactly the same clothes in both stories.
Uh. I like Naho's Goku better on those pictures. The poses feels much more natural with her.


I agree, I feel Toyotaro draws Goku's hair way to short, but I do like how he draws backgrounds and especially Vehicles so far in Super.

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Re: Super's manga by Toyotarō

Post by FortuneSSJ » Thu Jun 18, 2015 5:35 pm

-About the first chapter-
Already watched the raws. I loved it. But seems like they are retteling BOG with Beerus and Whis scenes.(I hate retteling, that's the main reason why I hated Minus)
I wonder how much they will change. The only thing worth to chance is erase the stupid "super saiyan god super saiyan" name from existance and just call it ssj god. While the red form starts to be called just saiyan god.

Other thing that surprised me was the chapter lenght. It was expecting 30+ pages just like ROF manga adaptation and any other monthly manga...
Maybe I didn't found the complete chapter?!
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Re: Super's manga by Toyotarō

Post by soulnova » Thu Jun 18, 2015 5:40 pm

FortuneSSJ wrote: Other thing that surprised me was the chapter lenght. It was expecting 30+ pages just like ROF manga adaptation and any other monthly manga...
Maybe I didn't found the complete chapter?!
I was commenting about this on the main discussion thread. So far... that's all that we have. :/
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Re: Super's manga by Toyotarō

Post by Ajay » Thu Jun 18, 2015 5:45 pm

Aw, that's not really a very fair comparison. Terrible quality images and 3 vs. 1.

Here's one I put together that I think is a little fairer.

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In these shots, I do think Ooishi's work is nicer, but on the whole, I think Toyotaro is the better artist. He's far better at mimicking Toriyama's style, too.
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Re: Super's manga by Toyotarō

Post by FortuneSSJ » Thu Jun 18, 2015 5:52 pm

I'm so used to Ooishi Chibi style from Dragon Ball SD that i forget she can rival Toyble.
I never read JTAS manga. Made a quick research now, but nothing.
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Re: Super's manga by Toyotarō

Post by Doctor. » Thu Jun 18, 2015 5:55 pm

I think Ooishi goes overboard with the spikes in Goku's hair, kinda like the kanzenban covers.

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Re: Super's manga by Toyotarō

Post by soulnova » Thu Jun 18, 2015 6:03 pm

Can we have some Buu/EoZ Goku pics as reference for the hair?

Toyotaro feels a little too like GT hair to me. It is too rounded and short to me.
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