i don’t know how many times I read that coming from you , a lot
. Usually you explain in a good manner why you hate dbs , but it’s clear that hate overpower in a negative sense your impressions towards anything coming from the subject you hate , blinds you and make anything coming from you have less weight because we know you have hate inside .
I hate Dragon Ball Super, I don't hate Dragon Ball. Ultimately, I want the series to improve, that's why I complain. Dragon Ball Super isn't moving the series in the way I think it should, so I keep complaining about all the stupid shit. I defended the series with passion back before the ToP, even the dreaded movie retellings; go back and read my posts if you want proof. Of course, you and everyone else who keeps accusing me of being biased, as if that means anything, wouldn't know because you weren't around at that point. Which is fine, you're not obligated to know about everything I post, but I'm only saying that I hate the series now because it has given me countless reasons to hate it. I haven't gone in predisposed to dislike it; in fact, it was the very opposite.
prince212 wrote:You guys act like Roshi killed Jiren , when he just dodge 3-5 punches ... for me the purpose of those scenes is just a way to build up gokus next technique by one of the most calm fighters on the series and a real master of concentration techniques, don’t look for deeper explanations about power levels or stuff like that
This doesn't even make sense thematically. Goku left Roshi out in the dust decades ago. Roshi himself stated this. Goku has continually gone ahead and gathered stronger and stronger masters to teach him new techniques and ways of bettering himself, and then when he did so, he left them in the dust as well. Now Goku has gone back and has to learn from his old master again, instead of learning from his current master. Goku has to re-surpass his master when he has already done so decades in the past. Roshi is now showing prowess he has never done in Z, in spite of having every chance and opportunity to do so; he didn't because he himself knew he could no longer keep up. Now while Roshi does have an arc this tournament about regaining his fighting spirit, such a spectacular performance completely undermines Goku's progress and
Roshi's arc in the original series and
Whis' position as Goku's master.
It doesn't make sense from a power standpoint and it doesn't make sense from a character standpoint. It's a badly executed idea on every level you can think of, and that's why it's being criticized. Of course this is only the strength thread, so that's what I'm focusing on for the moment, but I think the way it damages the story is far greater than the powerlevel inconsistency.