Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

[Galan007]

He obviously got another power up while transforming to his Rage mode.

That wasn't stated/depicted, though.

Broly is in base(which was ~ SSJ1 Vegeta), and then transforms into his Ikari form. Paragus states this Ikari form is the same type of amp a Saiyan gains when they turn into an Oozaru, and then Broly proceeds to immediately tank SSG Vegeta's attacks, knock him across the battlefield, etc. It was only when Goku entered the fray moments later that Broly began noticeably powering up moreso.

[Lukmendes]

Except for the fact that we do not know how much time passed after the ToP and how much Goku and Vegeta got stronger after the tournament.

It's probably not long after ToP, since Boo is still sleeping.

[PFM18]

Except for the fact that we do not know how much time passed after the ToP and how much Goku and Vegeta got stronger after the tournament.

It's probably not long after ToP, since Boo is still sleeping.

But Buu can sleeps for months at a time. I guess it depends how you defind "not long" though.

[Lukmendes]

But Buu can sleeps for months at a time. I guess it depends how you defind "not long" though.

Well, Bulma said that Boo will sleep for at least two months, and two months isn't really a long time.

[PFM18]

But Buu can sleeps for months at a time. I guess it depends how you defind "not long" though.

Well, Bulma said that Boo will sleep for at least two months, and two months isn't really a long time.

Well I thought you meant by "not long" as in a couple days or something. But yeah, it would be a month or two.

[Hulk10]

Is new Broly's Legendary Super Saiyan form more powerful than Super Saiyan Blue Kaioken x10?

[RecolorSaiyan]

Is new Broly's Legendary Super Saiyan form more powerful than Super Saiyan Blue Kaioken x10?

In terms of multiplier on top of base? No

However LSSJ (SSFP as its known now) Broly from the movie would utterly destroy SSB KKx10 Goku. SSJ Gogeta is stronger than SSB Goku and Broly going FP forced Gogeta to go blue who should be WAY WAY WAY more than 10 times above blue goku

[Hulk10]

Is new Broly's Legendary Super Saiyan form more powerful than Super Saiyan Blue Kaioken x10?

In terms of multiplier on top of base? No

However LSSJ (SSFP as its known now) Broly from the movie would utterly destroy SSB KKx10 Goku. SSJ Gogeta is stronger than SSB Goku and Broly going FP forced Gogeta to go blue who should be WAY WAY WAY more than 10 times above blue goku

Ok I take it his normal Super Saiyan form would lose against SSB KKx10?

[RecolorSaiyan]

Is new Broly's Legendary Super Saiyan form more powerful than Super Saiyan Blue Kaioken x10?

In terms of multiplier on top of base? No

However LSSJ (SSFP as its known now) Broly from the movie would utterly destroy SSB KKx10 Goku. SSJ Gogeta is stronger than SSB Goku and Broly going FP forced Gogeta to go blue who should be WAY WAY WAY more than 10 times above blue goku

Ok I take it his normal Super Saiyan form would lose against SSB KKx10?

If Movie SSB Goku could stack kkx10 then yeah I think he would have overpowered SSJ broly (until he powered up beyond it if given a chance). However I think if/when the anime retells this movie, ssj broly will destroy kkx20 and blue evol goku and vegeta

[Hulk10]

In terms of multiplier on top of base? No

However LSSJ (SSFP as its known now) Broly from the movie would utterly destroy SSB KKx10 Goku. SSJ Gogeta is stronger than SSB Goku and Broly going FP forced Gogeta to go blue who should be WAY WAY WAY more than 10 times above blue goku

Ok I take it his normal Super Saiyan form would lose against SSB KKx10?

If Movie SSB Goku could stack kkx10 then yeah I think he would have overpowered SSJ broly (until he powered up beyond it if given a chance). However I think if/when the anime retells this movie, ssj broly will destroy kkx20 and blue evol goku and vegeta

Maybe. Who knows?

[RecolorSaiyan]

Ok I take it his normal Super Saiyan form would lose against SSB KKx10?

If Movie SSB Goku could stack kkx10 then yeah I think he would have overpowered SSJ broly (until he powered up beyond it if given a chance). However I think if/when the anime retells this movie, ssj broly will destroy kkx20 and blue evol goku and vegeta

Maybe. Who knows?

We don't but I think the narrative is that Goku and Vegeta at their FP's can not defeat SSJ Broly and have to fuse. Since kk and blue evol aren't toriyama forms, they aren't in the movies but I think the anime would have to follow the narrative

[Hulk10]

If Movie SSB Goku could stack kkx10 then yeah I think he would have overpowered SSJ broly (until he powered up beyond it if given a chance). However I think if/when the anime retells this movie, ssj broly will destroy kkx20 and blue evol goku and vegeta

Maybe. Who knows?

We don't but I think the narrative is that Goku and Vegeta at their FP's can not defeat SSJ Broly and have to fuse. Since kk and blue evol aren't toriyama forms, they aren't in the movies but I think the anime would have to follow the narrative

You might be right, but we will have to wait and see.

[TheSaiyanGod]

If Movie SSB Goku could stack kkx10 then yeah I think he would have overpowered SSJ broly (until he powered up beyond it if given a chance). However I think if/when the anime retells this movie, ssj broly will destroy kkx20 and blue evol goku and vegeta

Maybe. Who knows?

We don't but I think the narrative is that Goku and Vegeta at their FP's can not defeat SSJ Broly and have to fuse. Since kk and blue evol aren't toriyama forms, they aren't in the movies but I think the anime would have to follow the narrative

Well, if TOEI adapted Broly's film then they would have to adapt the storytelling to fit SSB KK and SSBE (if they really are used), so I believe it would be different from the movie, but without affecting the main script between Gogeta and Broly) It would make more sense for Goku SSB KK and Vegeta SSBE to force Broly to use SSJ FP and after that they merge.

Considering that in the anime version of RoF, Freeza is much stronger than in the movie, I would not be surprised if that happened.

[Hulk10]

Maybe. Who knows?

We don't but I think the narrative is that Goku and Vegeta at their FP's can not defeat SSJ Broly and have to fuse. Since kk and blue evol aren't toriyama forms, they aren't in the movies but I think the anime would have to follow the narrative

Well, if TOEI adapted Broly's film then they would have to adapt the storytelling to fit SSB KK and SSBE (if they really are used), so I believe it would be different from the movie, but without affecting the main script between Gogeta and Broly) It would make more sense for Goku SSB KK and Vegeta SSBE to force Broly to use SSJ FP and after that they merge.

Considering that in the anime version of RoF, Freeza is much stronger than in the movie, I would not be surprised if that happened.

Mm yeah who knows?

[Sora Saiyan]

Is new Broly's Legendary Super Saiyan form more powerful than Super Saiyan Blue Kaioken x10?

I’d say that SSJB in this is meant to be the equivalent of their max powers in the anime. So if it’s adapted I’d see the same thing happening, well that’s if Toei cares about following Toriyamas script at all. Actually saying that, Toei seem to ignore the script to give a spectacle, but even with the new forms the villains always seem to have power way beyond those forms, or they immediately catch up and go beyond, so honestly regular SSJ Broly would probably whoop Goku and Vegeta at their FP, then they’d fuse and Broly would eventually become SSJFP and have a close fight with Gogeta.

[Freezerbaby]

Very disappointed to see that there isn´t golden freeza vs Broly at all, just a shot hinting that freeza lost.

No. There definitely is golden Freeza vs broly. You see him get stomped by broly in his Golden form, not just the shot with him on the Mountain.

I had just rewatched some new footage of the movie and yes you were right, but still I wished there had been more to it, like freeza pulling some of his well-known techniques to hold broly off. Kind of disappointing for a fight teased in the trailers, because the result was already obvious from the beginning.

[Hulk10]

I'd bet Broly would destroy Goku Black in a fight.

[Helios518]

I'd bet Broly would destroy Goku Black in a fight.

Of course, Broli would destroy Black. His normal Super Saiyan alone defeated a stronger SSB Goku.

[Hulk10]

I'd bet Broly would destroy Goku Black in a fight.

Of course, Broli would destroy Black. His normal Super Saiyan alone defeated a stronger SSB Goku.

Indeed.

[ZombieVito]

I'd bet Broly would destroy Goku Black in a fight.

No need to bet. SS Broly is over 5 times as strong as him.

Although Black could force him to go FPSS with his clones, maybe. Would be an interesting fight.