Miracles wrote: ↑Sat Apr 20, 2019 4:51 pm
It was explained that Vegeta perfected Goku's red and blue switch technique where he could exert the full power of blue in bursts and not waste any power against Rose. Your dislike for the manga isn't going to change the facts of it's story coherency on this.
Your still ignoring the plot. Trunks beat Future Zamas twice by stabbing and shooting him with a blast. Only his regeneration saved him. Then later he couldn't overpower a fatigue SSj2 Trunks. Trading blows with blue Goku before/after does not change that fact at all. It's just TOEI'S bad writing. However, TOEI'S narration
constantly referred to Zamas immortality/invincibility as being the threat,
not his power.
IF ZAMAS WAS BLUE LEVEL HE WOULDN'T NEED TO REGENERATE FROM BASIC ATTACKS FROM BOTH BLUE GOKU OR SSJ2 TRUNKS.
1. You are still missing the point. The Red-Blue switching thing still can't explain where Vegeta got an over 5,000x power boost to surpass Black's Rose form, since he was previously weaker than his SSJ1 form.
2. A) Trunks
lost to F.Zamasu in that episode. The fight wasn't over when Trunks stabbed him (which Zamasu took on purpose, at fact you keep ignoring).
B) "he couldn't overpower a fatigue SSj2 Trunks", he wasn't trying to. He simply chased him around.
C) "Trading blows with blue Goku before/after does not change that fact at all"
If F.Zamasu wasn't SSB level in the anime then he wouldn't have been able to trade blows with a serious SSB Goku
at all. Its that simple.
D) "It's just TOEI'S bad writing", no that's just your bias assumptions, since you still haven't given any proof that F.Zamasu was mean't to be only SSJ2
in the anime (and anime =/= manga in power levels, so don't even bother with that BS "Toriyama's outline" argument).
"However, TOEI'S narration
constantly referred to Zamas immortality/invincibility as being the threat,
not his power"
This is clearly false, because Goku
did mention F.Zamasu's power in the anime. You are just being in denial.
E) "IF ZAMAS WAS BLUE LEVEL HE WOULDN'T NEED TO REGENERATE FROM BASIC ATTACKS FROM BOTH BLUE GOKU OR SSJ2 TRUNKS."
This is a fallacy, because RoF Golden Freeza could also be killed from basic attacks by Black arc SSB Goku, so that doesn't prove a thing. And F.Zamasu took on Trunks sword on purpose, because as Trunks himself says in the anime, F.Zamasu often drops his guard and tanks hits on purpose so he can gloat about is immortality. So that debunks your downplay.