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Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

Post by Nistarkail » Fri Jun 11, 2021 5:20 pm

Well, regarding Cranberry, I think he did not match Yamcha when he reached 1.480. I seriously doubt that his mediocre ki could go also above Radditz (1.500 max) reaching a power level like Yajirobei (officially around 970).

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Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

Post by ZombieVito » Fri Jun 11, 2021 6:35 pm

Super Murjin wrote: Fri Jun 11, 2021 2:20 pm THOUGHTS ???


DRAGON BALL POWER LEVELS


Zeno, Future Zeno, Zalama

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Grand Priest

?
Zeno’s Attendants

15
Whis, Vados, Cognac, Awamo, Marcarita, Mojito, Cus, Cukatail, Korn, Martinu, Campari, Sour

14

13
Merus

12

11

10
Beerus, Champa, Sidra, Iwen, Helles, Mosco, Quitela, Arak, Liquir, Rumsshi, Gene, Belmond
Goku UI
Moro (Seven-Three/Merus absorbed), Moro (Seven-Three/Merus/Earth absorbed)
Vegetto SSB, Gogeta SSB
Jiren (Full Power)
Broly SSJFP

09
Goku UIO
Jiren
Moro (Full Power), Moro (Seven-Three absorbed)
Broly SSJ

08
Vegeta SSBE

07
Goku SSB, Vegeta SSB
Goku Black SSR
Merged Zamasu
Broly (Wrath State 2nd form)
Golden Frieza
Goku SSJ (Aura of a God), Toppo (Aura of a God)
Granolah (Greatest Warrior)

06
Goku SSG, Vegeta SSG, Yamoshi SSG
Goku Black SSJ (powering up)
Mr. Buu (after unlocking Dai Kaioshin's power)
Hit, Saganbo (w/ Moro's full magic boost), Moro (magic restored), Broly (Wrath State)

05

04
Goku (Aura of a God), Vegeta (Aura of a God), Goku Black (Aura of a God)
Kefla SSJFP
Vegetto SSJ, Gogeta SSJ
Frieza (after training)
Super Buu (Ultimate Gohan absorbed), Super Buu (Gotenks SSJ3 absorbed)
Ultimate Gohan (after training), Toppo

03
Goku SSJ3, Vegeta SSJ2 (rage), Future Trunks SSJ2 (rage), Gotenks SSJ3
Kale SSJFP
Vegetto, Gogeta, Kefla, Ultimate Gohan
Majin Buu, Super Buu, Super Buu (Piccolo absorbed), Mr. Buu
Anilaza, Dai Kaioshin, Saganbo (w/ Moro's magic boost), Uub (full power), Android 17 (after training), Dyspo

02
Goku SSJ2, Vegeta SSJ2, Gohan SSJ2
Super Perfect Cell, Dabura, Zamasu

01
Goku SSJ, Vegeta SSJ, Gohan SSJ, Future Trunks SSJ, Goten SSJ, Trunks SSJ, Cabba SSJ, Kale SSJ, Caulifla SSJ, Yamoshi SSJ, Gotenks SSJ, Future Gohan, Goku Black SSJ
King Cold, Frieza, Frost, Shisami (after training), Aka
Vuon, Kahseral, Tupper, Zoiray, Kettol, Kunshi, Cocette
Perfect Cell, Android 16, Android 17, Android 18, Android 19, Android 20, Cell Jr
Shin, Kibito, Anato, Pell, Eyre, Kuru, Ogma, Fuwa, Fuwa’s Attendant, Iru, Roh, Gowasu, Khai, Agu, South Kaioshin, Elder Kaioshin
Piccolo (fused w/ Nail+Kami), Magetta, Pui Pui, Yakon, Ribrianne, Kakunsa, Rozie, Basil, Lavender, Bergamo, Rozel, Hyssop, Chappil, Comfrey, Obuni, Napapa, Mulithim, Damon, Gamisaras, Majora, Ganos, Shimorekka, Seven-Three, Yunba, Bikkura Quoitur, Zauyogi, Yuzun, Elec, Gas, Oil, Macki, Miza-Iwaza-Kikaza (Fusion), Majin Spopovich, Majin Yamu

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Goku, Vegeta, Gohan, Future Trunks, Goten, Trunks, Future Gohan, Nappa, Raditz, Tarble, Bardock, Cabba, Kale, Caulifla, King Vegeta, Paragus, King Sadala, Yamoshi, Beets, Gine, Taro, Broly, Leek, Pan, King Vegeta's Majordomo, Moroko, Nion, Shito
Krillin, Tenshinhan, Chaozu, Master Roshi, Yamcha, Grandpa Gohan, Uub, Fangs, Bandages, Akkuman, Invisible Man, Giran, Nam, Ranfan, Bacterian, Launch, King Chappa, Man-Wolf, Pamput, Spopovich, Yamu, Videl, Mr. Satan, Captain Chicken, Nok, Otokosuki, Nareg, Yamcha (Reincarnated), Chaozu (Oushou)
Captain Ginyu, Barta, Jeice, Guldo, Recoome, Zarbon, Dodoria, Appule, Kui, Saibaman, Sorbet, Tagoma, Shisami, Cranberry, Lemo, Cheelai, Berryblue, Kikono, Avo, Cado, Garana, Daigen, Chidoru
King Piccolo, Piccolo, Drum, Tamborine, Cymbal, Piano, Nail, Pirina, Saonel, Dende, Monaito
Commander Red, General Blue, Buyon, Tao Pai Pai, Advisor Black, Android 8, General White, Sergeant Metallic, Sergeant-Major Purple, Colonel Silver, Colonel Violet,
Galactic King, Jaco, Irico, Calamis
Botamo, Dr. Rota, Vikal, Zarbuto, Rabanra, Jimeze, Zirloin, Prum, Hermila, The Preecho, Narirama, Maji Kayo, Katopesla, Bollarator, Koitsukai, Viara, Panchia, Paparoni, Nigrissi, Oregano, Sorrel, Hopp, Zium, Jilcol, Rubalt, Methiop, Murisarm, Jirasen, Lilibeu, Shantza, Nink, Monna, Shosa, Dercori, Caway, Ba, Miza, Iwaza, Kikaza, Soshiru, Pybara, Hatska, Goku Black, Granolah
Merged Zamasu is stronger than Goku Black.

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Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

Post by Hugo Boss » Fri Jun 11, 2021 8:28 pm

Koitsukai wrote: Fri Jun 11, 2021 10:12 am So, could Shenron or Porunga make you stronger than the Gods? than Beerus at least? assuming Porunga is stronger than Toronbo, that is.
I assume Super Shen Long could, but any dragon ranked lower couldn’t.

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Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

Post by Yuji » Sun Jun 13, 2021 4:49 pm

Don't know if anyone has caught this line before, but it seems to have been confirmed that Vegeta is stronger than Broly now:

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No reason to think Whis forgot about Broly considering he was present for the events of DBS:B and fought him.

Looks like MUI Goku = MUI Moro >> 73 Moro > SSBE Vegeta > Broly.

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Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

Post by Koitsukai » Sun Jun 13, 2021 6:05 pm

Yuji wrote: Sun Jun 13, 2021 4:49 pm Don't know if anyone has caught this line before, but it seems to have been confirmed that Vegeta is stronger than Broly now:

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No reason to think Whis forgot about Broly considering he was present for the events of DBS:B and fought him.

Looks like MUI Goku = MUI Moro >> 73 Moro > SSBE Vegeta > Broly.
I believe that was discussed here not too long ago, if you want to read the arguments presented from both sides and IIRC there were pretty solid cases presented from both sides as well, although that was for pre-hakai training Vegeta aka Moro arc SSBE Vegeta, currently he probably stomps UI Moro73.

But yeah, weeks after that chapter was released, we know Geets could be even stronger than Granolah, so it isn't crazy that he was Broly tier before the hakai training.

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Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

Post by GodVegetto91 » Sun Jun 13, 2021 7:27 pm

Super Murjin wrote: Fri Jun 11, 2021 2:20 pm THOUGHTS ???


DRAGON BALL POWER LEVELS


Zeno, Future Zeno, Zalama

?
Grand Priest

?
Zeno’s Attendants

15
Whis, Vados, Cognac, Awamo, Marcarita, Mojito, Cus, Cukatail, Korn, Martinu, Campari, Sour

14

13
Merus

12

11

10
Beerus, Champa, Sidra, Iwen, Helles, Mosco, Quitela, Arak, Liquir, Rumsshi, Gene, Belmond
Goku UI
Moro (Seven-Three/Merus absorbed), Moro (Seven-Three/Merus/Earth absorbed)
Vegetto SSB, Gogeta SSB
Jiren (Full Power)
Broly SSJFP

09
Goku UIO
Jiren
Moro (Full Power), Moro (Seven-Three absorbed)
Broly SSJ

08
Vegeta SSBE

07
Goku SSB, Vegeta SSB
Goku Black SSR
Merged Zamasu
Broly (Wrath State 2nd form)
Golden Frieza
Goku SSJ (Aura of a God), Toppo (Aura of a God)
Granolah (Greatest Warrior)

06
Goku SSG, Vegeta SSG, Yamoshi SSG
Goku Black SSJ (powering up)
Mr. Buu (after unlocking Dai Kaioshin's power)
Hit, Saganbo (w/ Moro's full magic boost), Moro (magic restored), Broly (Wrath State)

05

04
Goku (Aura of a God), Vegeta (Aura of a God), Goku Black (Aura of a God)
Kefla SSJFP
Vegetto SSJ, Gogeta SSJ
Frieza (after training)
Super Buu (Ultimate Gohan absorbed), Super Buu (Gotenks SSJ3 absorbed)
Ultimate Gohan (after training), Toppo

03
Goku SSJ3, Vegeta SSJ2 (rage), Future Trunks SSJ2 (rage), Gotenks SSJ3
Kale SSJFP
Vegetto, Gogeta, Kefla, Ultimate Gohan
Majin Buu, Super Buu, Super Buu (Piccolo absorbed), Mr. Buu
Anilaza, Dai Kaioshin, Saganbo (w/ Moro's magic boost), Uub (full power), Android 17 (after training), Dyspo

02
Goku SSJ2, Vegeta SSJ2, Gohan SSJ2
Super Perfect Cell, Dabura, Zamasu

01
Goku SSJ, Vegeta SSJ, Gohan SSJ, Future Trunks SSJ, Goten SSJ, Trunks SSJ, Cabba SSJ, Kale SSJ, Caulifla SSJ, Yamoshi SSJ, Gotenks SSJ, Future Gohan, Goku Black SSJ
King Cold, Frieza, Frost, Shisami (after training), Aka
Vuon, Kahseral, Tupper, Zoiray, Kettol, Kunshi, Cocette
Perfect Cell, Android 16, Android 17, Android 18, Android 19, Android 20, Cell Jr
Shin, Kibito, Anato, Pell, Eyre, Kuru, Ogma, Fuwa, Fuwa’s Attendant, Iru, Roh, Gowasu, Khai, Agu, South Kaioshin, Elder Kaioshin
Piccolo (fused w/ Nail+Kami), Magetta, Pui Pui, Yakon, Ribrianne, Kakunsa, Rozie, Basil, Lavender, Bergamo, Rozel, Hyssop, Chappil, Comfrey, Obuni, Napapa, Mulithim, Damon, Gamisaras, Majora, Ganos, Shimorekka, Seven-Three, Yunba, Bikkura Quoitur, Zauyogi, Yuzun, Elec, Gas, Oil, Macki, Miza-Iwaza-Kikaza (Fusion), Majin Spopovich, Majin Yamu

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Goku, Vegeta, Gohan, Future Trunks, Goten, Trunks, Future Gohan, Nappa, Raditz, Tarble, Bardock, Cabba, Kale, Caulifla, King Vegeta, Paragus, King Sadala, Yamoshi, Beets, Gine, Taro, Broly, Leek, Pan, King Vegeta's Majordomo, Moroko, Nion, Shito
Krillin, Tenshinhan, Chaozu, Master Roshi, Yamcha, Grandpa Gohan, Uub, Fangs, Bandages, Akkuman, Invisible Man, Giran, Nam, Ranfan, Bacterian, Launch, King Chappa, Man-Wolf, Pamput, Spopovich, Yamu, Videl, Mr. Satan, Captain Chicken, Nok, Otokosuki, Nareg, Yamcha (Reincarnated), Chaozu (Oushou)
Captain Ginyu, Barta, Jeice, Guldo, Recoome, Zarbon, Dodoria, Appule, Kui, Saibaman, Sorbet, Tagoma, Shisami, Cranberry, Lemo, Cheelai, Berryblue, Kikono, Avo, Cado, Garana, Daigen, Chidoru
King Piccolo, Piccolo, Drum, Tamborine, Cymbal, Piano, Nail, Pirina, Saonel, Dende, Monaito
Commander Red, General Blue, Buyon, Tao Pai Pai, Advisor Black, Android 8, General White, Sergeant Metallic, Sergeant-Major Purple, Colonel Silver, Colonel Violet,
Galactic King, Jaco, Irico, Calamis
Botamo, Dr. Rota, Vikal, Zarbuto, Rabanra, Jimeze, Zirloin, Prum, Hermila, The Preecho, Narirama, Maji Kayo, Katopesla, Bollarator, Koitsukai, Viara, Panchia, Paparoni, Nigrissi, Oregano, Sorrel, Hopp, Zium, Jilcol, Rubalt, Methiop, Murisarm, Jirasen, Lilibeu, Shantza, Nink, Monna, Shosa, Dercori, Caway, Ba, Miza, Iwaza, Kikaza, Soshiru, Pybara, Hatska, Goku Black, Granolah
Merus is not stronger than Beerus. I don’t know where you got that from.. And Moro Merus couldn’t even beat UI Goku. Same for Planet Moro without the energy drain.

Also, do you seriously have Granolah BELOW all the Moro’s?????? What is wrong with you?

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Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

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THOUGHTS ???

* FYI - I didn't rank the fighters from strongest to weakest within a tier


DRAGON BALL POWER LEVELS


Zeno, Future Zeno, Zalama

?
Grand Priest

?
Zeno’s Attendants

15
Whis, Vados, Cognac, Awamo, Marcarita, Mojito, Cus, Cukatail, Korn, Martinu, Campari, Sour

14

13
Merus

12

11

10
Beerus, Champa, Sidra, Iwen, Helles, Mosco, Quitela, Arak, Liquir, Rumsshi, Gene, Belmond
Goku MUI
Vegetto SSB, Gogeta SSB
Moro (Seven-Three/Merus absorbed), Moro (Seven-Three/Merus/Earth absorbed)
Jiren (Full Power)
Broly SSJFP

09
Vegeta SSBE (Spirit Control)
Moro (Full Power), Moro (Seven-Three absorbed)
Goku UIO
Jiren
Broly SSJ

08
Vegeta SSBE

07
Goku SSB, Vegeta SSB
Merged Zamasu
Goku Black SSR
Broly (Wrath State 2nd form)
Golden Frieza
Goku SSJ (Aura of a God), Toppo (Aura of a God)
Granolah (Greatest Warrior) *so far

06
Goku SSG, Vegeta SSG, Yamoshi SSG
Goku Black SSJ (powering up)
Mr. Buu (after unlocking Dai Kaioshin's power)
Hit, Saganbo (w/ Moro's full magic boost), Moro (magic restored), Broly (Wrath State)

05

04
Goku (Aura of a God), Vegeta (Aura of a God), Goku Black (Aura of a God)
Kefla SSJFP
Vegetto SSJ, Gogeta SSJ
Frieza (after training)
Super Buu (Ultimate Gohan absorbed), Super Buu (Gotenks SSJ3 absorbed)
Ultimate Gohan (after training), Toppo

03
Goku SSJ3, Vegeta SSJ2 (rage), Future Trunks SSJ2 (rage), Gotenks SSJ3
Kale SSJFP
Vegetto, Gogeta, Kefla, Ultimate Gohan
Majin Buu, Super Buu, Super Buu (Piccolo absorbed), Mr. Buu
Anilaza, Dai Kaioshin, Saganbo (w/ Moro's magic boost), Uub (full power), Android 17 (after training), Dyspo

02
Goku SSJ2, Vegeta SSJ2, Gohan SSJ2
Super Perfect Cell, Dabura, Zamasu

01
Goku SSJ, Vegeta SSJ, Gohan SSJ, Future Trunks SSJ, Goten SSJ, Trunks SSJ, Cabba SSJ, Kale SSJ, Caulifla SSJ, Yamoshi SSJ, Gotenks SSJ, Future Gohan, Goku Black SSJ
King Cold, Frieza, Frost, Shisami (after training), Aka
Vuon, Kahseral, Tupper, Zoiray, Kettol, Kunshi, Cocette
Perfect Cell, Android 16, Android 17, Android 18, Android 19, Android 20, Cell Jr
Shin, Kibito, Anato, Pell, Eyre, Kuru, Ogma, Fuwa, Fuwa’s Attendant, Iru, Roh, Gowasu, Khai, Agu, South Kaioshin, Elder Kaioshin
Piccolo (fused w/ Nail+Kami), Magetta, Pui Pui, Yakon, Ribrianne, Kakunsa, Rozie, Basil, Lavender, Bergamo, Rozel, Hyssop, Chappil, Comfrey, Obuni, Napapa, Mulithim, Damon, Gamisaras, Majora, Ganos, Shimorekka, Seven-Three, Yunba, Bikkura Quoitur, Zauyogi, Yuzun, Elec, Gas, Oil, Macki, Miza-Iwaza-Kikaza (Fusion), Majin Spopovich, Majin Yamu

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Goku, Vegeta, Gohan, Future Trunks, Goten, Trunks, Future Gohan, Nappa, Raditz, Tarble, Bardock, Cabba, Kale, Caulifla, King Vegeta, Paragus, King Sadala, Yamoshi, Beets, Gine, Taro, Broly, Leek, Pan, King Vegeta's Majordomo, Moroko, Nion, Shito
Krillin, Tenshinhan, Chaozu, Master Roshi, Yamcha, Grandpa Gohan, Uub, Fangs, Bandages, Akkuman, Invisible Man, Giran, Nam, Ranfan, Bacterian, Launch, King Chappa, Man-Wolf, Pamput, Spopovich, Yamu, Videl, Mr. Satan, Captain Chicken, Nok, Otokosuki, Nareg, Yamcha (Reincarnated), Chaozu (Oushou)
Captain Ginyu, Barta, Jeice, Guldo, Recoome, Zarbon, Dodoria, Appule, Kui, Saibaman, Sorbet, Tagoma, Shisami, Cranberry, Lemo, Cheelai, Berryblue, Kikono, Avo, Cado, Garana, Daigen, Chidoru
King Piccolo, Piccolo, Drum, Tamborine, Cymbal, Piano, Nail, Pirina, Saonel, Dende, Monaito
Commander Red, General Blue, Buyon, Tao Pai Pai, Advisor Black, Android 8, General White, Sergeant Metallic, Sergeant-Major Purple, Colonel Silver, Colonel Violet,
Galactic King, Jaco, Irico, Calamis
Botamo, Dr. Rota, Vikal, Zarbuto, Rabanra, Jimeze, Zirloin, Prum, Hermila, The Preecho, Narirama, Maji Kayo, Katopesla, Bollarator, Koitsukai, Viara, Panchia, Paparoni, Nigrissi, Oregano, Sorrel, Hopp, Zium, Jilcol, Rubalt, Methiop, Murisarm, Jirasen, Lilibeu, Shantza, Nink, Monna, Shosa, Dercori, Caway, Ba, Miza, Iwaza, Kikaza, Soshiru, Pybara, Hatska, Goku Black, Granolah

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Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

Post by Hugo Boss » Mon Jun 14, 2021 2:46 pm

Yuji wrote: Sun Jun 13, 2021 4:49 pm Don't know if anyone has caught this line before, but it seems to have been confirmed that Vegeta is stronger than Broly now
Us means either (1) Goku and Vegeta or (2) Goku or Vegeta. It depends on which one you think makes the most sense.

Personally, I prefer to stick with 1, so Whis wouldn’t know about a warrior stronger than Silver Goku at least, who was the strongest between him and Vegeta that time. Of course, you can think Goku believes he or Vegeta are stronger than Broly, but I don’t think that’s what Goku is worried about.

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Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

Post by Nevaeh » Wed Jun 16, 2021 5:15 am

Yuji wrote: Sun Jun 13, 2021 4:49 pm Don't know if anyone has caught this line before, but it seems to have been confirmed that Vegeta is stronger than Broly now:

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No reason to think Whis forgot about Broly considering he was present for the events of DBS:B and fought him.

Looks like MUI Goku = MUI Moro >> 73 Moro > SSBE Vegeta > Broly.
Yes. This means Broly went from "probably stronger than Beerus" to fodder :lol:

Also now the GoDs (or at least Beerus) have techniques that are just as good if not better than angel techniques

Beerus' plot armor is boundless

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Post by BWri » Wed Jun 16, 2021 2:56 pm

Nevaeh wrote: Wed Jun 16, 2021 5:15 am Yes. This means Broly went from "probably stronger than Beerus" to fodder :lol:

Also now the GoDs (or at least Beerus) have techniques that are just as good if not better than angel techniques

Beerus' plot armor is boundless
I wouldn't blame Beerus for that. Every statement regarding his strength has been inconclusive by design. There's a sizeable chunk of the fandom that's been pointing that out since day one.

And there's also nothing that prevents him from training in the background whenever Goku and Vegeta aren't around. I'm sure that's going to be revealed at some point.

I think too many people are just eager to replace him with the next strongest guy when story-wise, there's no reason to yet. The creators do share some blame in this with how they overhype new characters.
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Yuji wrote: Fri May 28, 2021 8:08 am Jaco was directly compared to Kuririn in RF so it always struck me that he was much stronger than the fandom thinks.
That's never been implied or stated. Jaco actually sees Krillin as being quite strong. In the movie and the anime Krillin's always shown handling way more soldiers than Jaco.

But I do agree with the overall sentiment, Jaco is probably much stronger than most of us think he is.
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Post by Super Murjin » Fri Jun 18, 2021 1:31 pm

Jaco would be a threat in the Saiyan Arc ... maybe against Raditz and the Saibaman. But i think Nappa and Vegeta, including the Z Fighters would prove to be too much for him. As for the Namek arc, Jaco may be able to defeat the lower level Frieza Soldiers, but i doubt he could defeat the likes of Dodoria, Zarbon and Kui.

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Post by BWri » Fri Jun 18, 2021 3:25 pm

It wouldn't change much if Jaco were stronger than Nappa but weaker than Vegeta. I could possibly see him as that strong.
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Post by Koitsukai » Fri Jun 18, 2021 5:36 pm

I don't think Jaco is as strong as an adult saiyan, also didn't DBMinus implied that he was not?

I think he might be Raditz/Saibaiman/Yamcha/Krilin tier at best.

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Koitsukai wrote: Fri Jun 18, 2021 5:36 pm I don't think Jaco is as strong as an adult saiyan, also didn't DBMinus implied that he was not?
Yeah, but he likely got stronger over time.
I think he might be Raditz/Saibaiman/Yamcha/Krilin tier at best.
This makes the most sense with how he fought in the RoF movie, but I can also see him being stronger. If they suddenly said he was stronger than Nappa I wouldn't think twice about it.
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Post by ZombieVito » Sun Jun 20, 2021 2:19 pm

Ah so using UI with lesser forms does give a boost. Confirmed by Granolah this chapter.

I guess I would go for something like 1.5 times if Toei adapts that for when I do a list.

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Post by GodVegetto91 » Sun Jun 20, 2021 3:16 pm

ZombieVito wrote: Sun Jun 20, 2021 2:19 pm Ah so using UI with lesser forms does give a boost. Confirmed by Granolah this chapter.

I guess I would go for something like 1.5 times if Toei adapts that for when I do a list.
‘Striking power’ is always boosted by UI, as speed equals strength afterall. But the Silver haired form comes with a genuine power boost besides UI aswell.

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Post by ZombieVito » Sun Jun 20, 2021 3:35 pm

GodVegetto91 wrote: Sun Jun 20, 2021 3:16 pm
ZombieVito wrote: Sun Jun 20, 2021 2:19 pm Ah so using UI with lesser forms does give a boost. Confirmed by Granolah this chapter.

I guess I would go for something like 1.5 times if Toei adapts that for when I do a list.
‘Striking power’ is always boosted by UI, as speed equals strength afterall. But the Silver haired form comes with a genuine power boost besides UI aswell.
Speed doesn't equal power.

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Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

Post by GodVegetto91 » Sun Jun 20, 2021 3:57 pm

ZombieVito wrote: Sun Jun 20, 2021 3:35 pm
GodVegetto91 wrote: Sun Jun 20, 2021 3:16 pm
ZombieVito wrote: Sun Jun 20, 2021 2:19 pm Ah so using UI with lesser forms does give a boost. Confirmed by Granolah this chapter.

I guess I would go for something like 1.5 times if Toei adapts that for when I do a list.
‘Striking power’ is always boosted by UI, as speed equals strength afterall. But the Silver haired form comes with a genuine power boost besides UI aswell.
Speed doesn't equal power.
Yes it does. If you hit something with your car while driving at 240 km/h, you are guaranteed to do far more damage to the object/target than when you hit something while only driving at 35 km/h with your car.

It’s simple science.

Don’t overthink it.

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Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

Post by Hugo Boss » Sun Jun 20, 2021 4:02 pm

In Ultra Instinct’s case, the enhanced movements make Goku’s attacks feel stronger, as he wastes very little effort by performing high level techniques, such as kamehameha. I don’t think he is necessarily implying Goku’s battle power is increasing because of it. This is probably only happening when Goku transforms.

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