Doctor. wrote: Bergamo wrote:
You're not explaining yourself.
Vegeta's strength is either inconsistently portrayed in both fights, or he gets ridiculously stronger in a short amount of time in the RoSaT.
I don't see the problem. The point of the RoSaT is power boosts.
Vegeta God/Blue > Rosé Black > Super Saiyan Black = Blue Vegeta
In terms of pure 100% strength, Blue Vegeta was stronger than Rosé by a lot, but the entire point of the arc is that they can't use pure 100% strength until the very end.
The RoSaT barely made Goku and Vegeta any stronger in 3 years and you're saying Vegeta got dozens of times stronger in 6 months?
You realize, at the very least, how arbitrary his power boost is?
The RoSaT itself is already very convenient.
In Saga Cell, Vegeta trained 1 year in the salon and proved to be much stronger than Cell second form. But on training the second time, the increase in strength was almost irrelevant.
In DBS, Goku and Vegeta trained 3 years and did not demonstrate any great increase of power, but when Vegeta trained 6 months in FT saga, it obtained a much greater power up. It never made much sense in any way
ZombieVito wrote:He needs to use Kaioken. Something must make Brolly use Super Saiyan.
Blue Kaioken is very popular to not use.
Yeah something will have to push him to go further. I didn't know about this but Super Saiyan God Vegeta is in this?
There's also two different versions of Super Saiyan for Broly.
I'm guessing what we saw in the trailer was the former because he has the armour so would Super Saiyan Broly be around 50 times as strong as Super Saiyan Blue Goku and then Legendary Super Saiyan Broly stronger than that?
Doesn't look like he'll be getting a new form but that's ok.
Honestly, I do not think Toriyama still remembers any of those SSJ multipliers (which were never used in the original manga, only shown in guides supervised by him).
But it does not surprise me that Broly is able to fight Goku SSB without even being in his final form. He has always been a very exaggerated character (this is a bad thing). And now they just want to put it in canonical history with all that overpowering strength, basically repeating what they did in movie 8.
But the film seems much more a continuation of anime than manga. For those who just follow the anime, it would be strange that Goku and Vegeta were being defeated without even using their latest forms shown in ToP, Kaioken and Blue Evolution