Koitsukai wrote: ↑
Sun Mar 22, 2020 5:11 pm
I guess there is no other way than SS2 Vegeta being many times stronger than SS3 Goku.
Weird, though, Vegeta finally surpassed Goku in BoG but he didn't become leagues above him like the gap the manga proposes when there shouldn't be one at all (or at least a minimum gap) after BoG and training with Whis, specially if the manga implies that under Whis, Goku is the one ahead of Vegeta.
So, it would be like this:
SS2 Trunks 2
SS3 Goku 3
Base Black 4
SS Black 5
SS2 Vegeta 6
still looks to me like a huge gap between SS3 Goku and SS2 Vegeta, and I'm being lenient putting Goku higher than Trunks and SS Black as a minimal boost on base Black
Thank you very much, and my regards to you too!
Well, considering that SSJ3 Goku could do absolutely nothing against Bills and that Vegeta was able to connect some hits to him, maybe not double as strong but a good 30-40% could bé perfectly possible.
Vegeta was always much stronger than Goku in his base state, so if he gains the control over his Ki that Goku had (and even surpasses him) his SSJ forma should all be stronger.
Miracles wrote: ↑
Sun Mar 22, 2020 4:47 pm
Facts come from character statements which is through narration truth's. Vados clearly states the fusion of Kefla is among the best because
of Kale's sheer power combined with Caulifa's battle sense. There is no mention of power drop when they fuse. You are not going to get that type of praise of power from the plot if your at Kale's former level where she was getting beat by weaklings.
1. The characters speak from their POW, they're not omniscient narrators and Dragon Balls writes their characters better than most other shonens in that sense.
It could perfectly be that Vados ignored the fact that injured fighters would result in an inferior fusion.
2. We have 2 solid, hard facts: Vegetto took a senzu and Kefla was at mystic Gohan levels of power.
And no, Gohan isn't at the levels of t'he God forms, not even in this saga, even less in the ToP.
3. They don't have to mention everything everytime. The power drop is evident from the fact that the two fighters were weakened, and we already know from the Balck saga that a Fusion doesn't ignore injuries.