Dragon Ball Super: TV Ratings Discussion Thread

[irreality]

I know, but after episode 56 I thought people would try to tune in for this more. Oh well, it's not too far off from what I expected at least.

Our average has been higher, so people are tuning in more.

[Araki]

It's not realistic to expect Super as #1 mainly due to its timeslot. The same goes for One Piece, they're pretty much the only anime series with high viewerships airing in the morning, all the other big titles are on evenings.
The recent Trunks edition of RoF is a good proof of the difference a timeslot makes. It was actually #1, despite having only like 10 minutes of new footage - it wasn't included in the official ranking for being a rerun, though.

As for the episode content and how it affects ratings, after years following these things, it rarely makes sense, as i've said earlier. Believe me, that "character X brought down the ratings this week" logic does not apply. Sometimes an exceptional episode, or one that everyone talks about, seems to improve the next one's viewership, but that's not a rule, and of course, the general audience can't anticipate whether an episode will be great or not until it airs.

[Konig]

Live Ratings - 09/05 ~ 09/11
http://www.videor.co.jp/data/ratedata/top10.htm
1. Sazae [12.3]
2. Crayon Shin-chan [10.4]
3. Doraemon [9.3]
4. One Piece [8.8]
5. Chibi Maruko-chan [7.7]
6. Detective Conan [6.6]
7. Dragon Ball Super [6.4]
8. Ace Attorney [5.3]
9. Pokémon XY & Z [3.9]
10. Yokai Watch [3.6]

[Alee9977]

I expected that, I wonder if Naruto's reaching his end will affect DBS's rating.

[Mazingerdestro]

Hey look a slow episode had better rating than an action packed one!!!!! These rating have broken me......seriously Toei change the time slot already.....Obviously it's too early and obviously you gain nothing from op and db airing almost at the same time.......make it start at 12:00 or make it Saturday! Kids need to study on Sunday! They have no time for db.

I feel kind of bad for the staff working on dbs. If this show was airing in the west the ratings would be crazy and instead they air it in Japan where db is treated like a joke from 10-12 year old kids.....placed under shows intended for 10 year old kids.....with butt humor......how many times can shinchan move his butt and still be funny????why is even dbs airing in Japan? Why it's not simu-airing in the west?

My comment is a bit of a rant but Jesus I feel that the show is improving and the get nothing as a return. At least I hope sales get a good boost this year

[DragonBalllKaiHD]

Why should ratings matter to you? These do not reflect the actual overall performance of Dragon Ball Super as a whole. The series, which is constantly in top ten TV show in the weekend morning anime, is performing just fine.

[TheRed259]

Don't judge Japanese ratings according to the Greek standards. I know that in Greece DBZ had crazy ratings up to 45-50% in weekends since it was almost the only anime that was standing out back then, it didn't have too much to compete. In Japan, it is different since there is a variety of anime and people have the option to choose.
But it is true that DBS is doing worse than DBZ in the 90s (Average: 20.5%). Different times, different circumstances I guess.

[Baggie_Saiyan]

Live Ratings - 09/05 ~ 09/11
http://www.videor.co.jp/data/ratedata/top10.htm
1. Sazae [12.3]
2. Crayon Shin-chan [10.4]
3. Doraemon [9.3]
4. One Piece [8.8]
5. Chibi Maruko-chan [7.7]
6. Detective Conan [6.6]
7. Dragon Ball Super [6.4]
8. Ace Attorney [5.3]
9. Pokémon XY & Z [3.9]
10. Yokai Watch [3.6]

Wow. That's pretty awesome! Was expecting around 5% this week. I certainly expect it to be so next episode since that episode doesn't look terribly exciting.

[HeroR]

Don't judge Japanese ratings according to the Greek standards. I know that in Greece DBZ had crazy ratings up to 45-50% in weekends since it was almost the only anime that was standing out back then, it didn't have too much to compete. In Japan, it is different since there is a variety of anime and people have the option to choose.
But it is true that DBS is doing worse than DBZ in the 90s (Average: 20.5%). Different times, different circumstances I guess.

You can't compare any anime from the 90s to today's standards. The number one show in Japan doesn't even get a 20.5% average.

[Lujin_16]

Some really don't see that Pokemon has a 3.8 rating?? and Pokemon is a popular anime worldwide and still going with new episodes

[TheRed259]

That's why I said different times (Internet), different circumstances (more options maybe). Plus we can't count in number that 6.4% for example.
For those who care so much about the ratings and numbers, yeah, it is indeed lower BUT that doesn't mean that less people are watching DB now.

[Baggie_Saiyan]

Some really don't see that Pokemon has a 3.8 rating?? and Pokemon is a popular anime worldwide and still going with new episodes

Exactly just like Super ratings doesn't matter for Pokémon it's all about the merchandise etc. So for Super to be doing well in both merchandise and ratings is great!

Look at Kai had good ratings but did horrendously merchandise wise and Toei pulled it after Cell with Buu intended for international only, course Toriko ended up doing worse and Buu Kai was flung back in.

[Bullza]

Why did Kai do so poorly? I wasn't around then but I've heard that the merchandise was down from before Kai started. Is that true? Why did it fail so bad?

[Baggie_Saiyan]

Why did Kai do so poorly? I wasn't around then but I've heard that the merchandise was down from before Kai started. Is that true? Why did it fail so bad?

I think it might be due to the fact Kai was basically nothing new, sure people may watch it on TV since it was essentially like a re run but doubt many were going to go out their way to buy merchandise, because they probably had everything they wanted already. Compared to Super with new characters and new transformations etc.

[Lord Beerus]

I expected that, I wonder if Naruto's reaching his end will affect DBS's rating.

I highly doubt that given that Shippuden airs on different day and timeslot that Super.

In regards to the rating Super pulled... it was good enough.

[Alee9977]

I agree. Sunday 9 PM is a little early, but there are a lot of people watching it so imagine if it was in the evening on saturday....
Also, I think that if people record the episode or rewind until when episode aired doesn't affect the live ratings, right?

[nite_jay]

Is a ratings share like DB and DBZ in it's heyday even possible today? I know Super's timeslot is still pretty good, but it still seems to average 1/2 - 1/4 of the old share.

[HeroR]

Is a ratings share like DB and DBZ in it's heyday even possible today? I know Super's timeslot is still pretty good, but it still seems to average 1/2 - 1/4 of the old share.

Nope. Not even the best rated show ranks that high. If it does break the 20s, it's highly unusual.

[jjgp1112]

Is a ratings share like DB and DBZ in it's heyday even possible today? I know Super's timeslot is still pretty good, but it still seems to average 1/2 - 1/4 of the old share.

DB, Z, and GT were in a Wednesday Night Prime Time slot, whereas Super is a morning show.

[Araki]

Is a ratings share like DB and DBZ in it's heyday even possible today? I know Super's timeslot is still pretty good, but it still seems to average 1/2 - 1/4 of the old share.

In the 90's, the top ten anime series all got 10.0+ ratings. There was no internet (pretty much), cellphones, streaming, DVR, etc, so that's impossible these days. Not to mention the proliferation of cable tv and videogames, for instance, making new competition.
Hell, Rurouni Kenshin was reportedly cancelled due to low ratings - those same ratings would make the series a huge hit now, perhaps the #1 anime. Sazae's current ratings would be considered "meh" or 'just ok" at best.

Here is a top 10 of the most watched episodes ever:

01 Chibi Maruko-chan 1990/10/28 (Sun) 18:00 39.9%
02 Sazae-san 1979/09/16 (Sun) 18:30 39.4 %
03 Dr. Slump Arale-chan 1981/12/16 (Wed) 19:00 36.9%
04 Dokonjou Gaeru 1979/02/23 (Fri) 18:00 34.5%
05 Manga Nihon Mukashi Banashi 1981/01/10 (Sat) 19:00 33.6%
06 Lupin III Final Episode 1978/12/08 (Fri) 18:00 32.5%
07 Touch 1985/12/22 (Sun) 19:00 31.9%
08 Ashita no Joe 1980/03/13 (Thu) 18:00 31.6%
09 Doraemon 1983/02/11 (Fri) 19:00 31.2%
10 Gegege no Kitaro 1986/03/22 (Sat) 18:30 29.6%

source: http://www.videor.co.jp/data/ratedata/junre/03anime.htm

You may notice the youngest show is from 1990, followed by 1986. Also, episodic family/comedic shows were always more accessible than battle shonen and the likes.