No one's nerfing pre-god feats. We're just saying that the feats shown clearly indicate that Super's feats are higher.LSSJGODSSJ4Gogeta wrote:I think you're nerfing pre god feats and taking god feats as a means of power. BY that logic
Vegeta intentionally concentrated the explosion to avoid destroying the planet, because there's no point in killing Buu for the sake of saving the Earth if it took him blowing the Earth up in the process.Freeza's death ball>>>>>majin Vegeta's final explosion because only one planet busted ;/
Besides, we see Ii Shinlon intentionally try to destroy the Earth with his most powerful attack, the one that Ssj4 Gogeta kicked away. If he were as powerful as you say, with the ability to "clap his hands" and destroy the universes, why didn't he do so? He had no reason or desire to hold back, and his entire mindset was to kill and destroy, so there's no reason he'd hold back in the slightest during any of his battles, pre- or post- Dragon Ball absorption.
Literally no evidence supporting or even suggesting that kind of strength whatsoever. Saying he can do something, when literally nothing shows that he can, is effectively meaningless. I can say, just as readily, that Ii Shinlon couldn't come close to scratching Beerus, and my statement would be just as factual as yours.Omega cold clap his hands and destroy all 12 universes,not just 1/12 of the "multiverse" even though this goes against the real world definition of universe.
Who had drastically increased his power through a rage boost due to Beerus attacking Bulma.beerus 10%-needed to fight a damaged tired angry ssj2 buu saga Vegeta.
Literally nothing is stated or even suggested about how much stronger the rage boost made Vegeta over Goku. You can't say that it was only 2x Goku at best, when nothing points to it at all. Given the fight and the statements that are made, for all we know Vegeta could have been a thousand or tens of thousands of times stronger than Goku was. You arbitrarily giving a number of only 2x Ssj3 Goku means that you're intentionally trying to low-ball the feat to try and make GT's characters more powerful.Raging Vegeta-2x the power of ssj3 goku at best.
See above. The low-balling you're giving Ssj2 Vegeta, and Beerus for that matter, is baseless.base gt goku-end of Z ssj3 goku teir without even powering up. give him the 400x multiplier it's overkill. Beerus isn't even able to fight ssj2 GT goku with 1 hand tied behind his back.
What do you say about the fact that the anime comic adaptation of GT: A Hero's Legacy includes the fact about Vegetto indicating that Buu Saga Ssj Vegetto was more powerful than Super Saiya-jin 4 Goku? Given that and the fact that Goku, in Super, establishes that he doesn't believe any fusion with Vegeta would stop Beerus (which, without specifications, could easily mean Ssj3 Vegetto), and you have Beerus, right then and there, being over 8x more powerful than Ssj4 Goku.
Lastly, while not the most accurate source of information, it should be noted that even the video games support BoG Beerus being there amongst the strongest of GT's characters. When Ssj 4 Gogeta enters a battle against Beerus, his in-game dialogue is "Maybe I can beat Lord Beerus now!" If GT's characters were so drastically stronger than BoG/Super's, as you're saying, why would the strongest GT character state that "maybe" he could beat Beerus, indicating doubt and uncertainty on his part?