irreality wrote:There is something very absolutist about the way certain people who don't like Super are expressing their opinions, especially with the title of the thread. It is like: *everything* about Super is bad, there is nothing salvageable, it needs to be expressed in as crass a way as possible, and people who are enjoying it should be convinced that it is bad. There is something of a "partypooper" spirit to it, I guess. If you don't like it, fine, make reasonable critiques about the things you don't like, and we can have a conversation. But don't try to convince others to stop being happy, you know?
But threads like this seem to be saying: not only don't we like it, we want the international release to be a mockery because we want *nobody* to enjoy it because we didn't. Even though a lot of people are having great fun with it.
Conversely, I think in general the people who have been enjoying Super are able to reasonably discuss the flaws (E.g. animation in certain episodes, pacing in certain episodes, etc) without saying everything is beyond critique it is so good. That is the difference in approaches that is frustrating to people.
Fine. Mods, let's delete this thread. Apologies for disrespecting Super.
While we're at it, how about every other thread that doesn't like Super. What about if we think that the current version of Super airing right now
is a mockery? That's my opinion and I'm expressing it in this thread. What you, irrealty, deem salvageable is not the same opinion I hold. I deem absolutely none of it to be salvageable so far and I'm not going to water down my opinion because people like you take it to heart for some reason. There's a reasonable amount of frustration with Super all around the Dragonball fanverse and whether it's the minority (it isn't) or the majority, these threads are going to pop up.
He doesn't need to explain why because those of us who understand don't need the dead horse summary of terrible art, animation, lack of characterization, plot, continuity issues, pacing, concepts, etc. If you smell garbage you don't necessarily need to explain to your friends why you hate the smell each time, especially if they recognize it as well. You are sure welcome to ask, but I think you guys are taking it a bit too personally and using that as an excuse to come here and pick fights.
If we said there are major positives about Super that we enjoy we'd be lying.
You don't want us venting in your pro-Super threads so we don't. (I've been guilty of this and have backed off) This was a thread with a clever title which really was inoffensive, and for some reason people are raising their pitchforks and crying about their feelings, attacking any dissenting view and looking for any technicality. Neoking was obviously voicing his frustration
and instead of saying "wow this thing is a steaming pile of ball gargling shit" he made a light joke about it. Calm down bro.