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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 84

Post by JazzMazz » Thu Apr 06, 2017 10:44 am

perucho1990 wrote:
SansrivaaL wrote:Do you guys think theres a chance they may pull a CGI fight animations on the tournament? theres 80 of them in one ring, that would be quite the work and I've seen anime's that when it comes to animating a lot they tend to go the CGI route.
Having thoughts that what happened with RF movie CGI can happen in this tournament has me worried, I hate CGI! homestly thats the one thing that can stop me from watching super if they do that.
I would rather have Toei use stills than CGI.

As other mentioned, their CGI is really bad(Beerus vs Goku comes to mind).
I thought that Frieza vs Goku looked far worse. I am kinda opposed to this battle royal format from a production standpoint, it seems like they are trying to rush through it in order to get to something bigger. I would prefer if they flat out dump the idea by the time the tournament comes around and take on a format tournaments in Dragonball or Yu Yu Hakusho used.

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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 84

Post by Octorockandroll » Thu Apr 06, 2017 3:11 pm

JazzMazz wrote:
perucho1990 wrote:
SansrivaaL wrote:Do you guys think theres a chance they may pull a CGI fight animations on the tournament? theres 80 of them in one ring, that would be quite the work and I've seen anime's that when it comes to animating a lot they tend to go the CGI route.
Having thoughts that what happened with RF movie CGI can happen in this tournament has me worried, I hate CGI! homestly thats the one thing that can stop me from watching super if they do that.
I would rather have Toei use stills than CGI.

As other mentioned, their CGI is really bad(Beerus vs Goku comes to mind).
I thought that Frieza vs Goku looked far worse. I am kinda opposed to this battle royal format from a production standpoint, it seems like they are trying to rush through it in order to get to something bigger. I would prefer if they flat out dump the idea by the time the tournament comes around and take on a format tournaments in Dragonball or Yu Yu Hakusho used.
That does seem to be a theme with Super. While I think we all agree that Z had a big problem with being too slow paced at times, Super's cure for this seems to be never letting go of the fast forward button. It's so annoying to see so many cool ideas and setpieces just be breezed past. I really hope they'll take the time to really develop the tournament of power, with such a huge number of entrants I would say we need at the bare minimum 10 episodes showing the actual tournament, prefferably way more.
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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 84

Post by aaronWgamer » Thu Apr 06, 2017 3:38 pm

I know people have ranked staff on here before and I was bored so here's how I rank some of them based on art, animation, storyboard quality (if they do storyboards) and their speed. Just basically how skilled they are overall and how well they suit working on Super.

[spoiler]Shida – Can produce incredible animation due to his skill and position at Toei, has a very off-model but brilliantly detailed art style, can produce storyboards of a high quality.

Higashide – Has saved Super from outright bad fights due to his speed and ability to both animate very well and correct art.

Karasawa – Produces incredibly strong animation and art, can work under Super’s schedule fairly well.

Tate – Can produce interesting animation quickly and has a unique style that has enough charm to be serviceable when rushed... usually.

Yashima – Stupidly quick. His art is unappealing but his animation has a good amount of motion and he can produce interesting enough storyboards.

Manabe – Solid animation given the schedule and his art is very expressive, especially when he draws evil characters or people in pain. Those conditions tend to make the best use of his expression work.

Shimanuki – He can improve quickly and his art is usually very strong now. His work is still inconsistent however and his animation is well timed and impactful at best, stiff and awkward at worst.

Kitano – Ugly art, no notably great animation. On occasion his art is serviceable but only really for closer shots.[/spoiler]
I'll probably change my mind in future.

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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 84

Post by emperior » Thu Apr 06, 2017 4:37 pm

When should we get info about the new blu-ray release? I'm really, really curious to know if they fixed 67's first half.
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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 84

Post by ArchedThunder » Thu Apr 06, 2017 4:38 pm

emperior wrote:When should we get info about the new blu-ray release? I'm really, really curious to know if they fixed 67's first half.
I think Ajay said he'll have his copy next week.

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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 84

Post by Noah » Thu Apr 06, 2017 11:30 pm

Metalwario64 wrote:I hate that they've regressed both Kulilin and Vegeta's designs (and Goku I guess since they ditched the RoF outfit, which I loved).

Goku and Vegeta should have either stuck with their RoF through the Black arc, or have gotten new outfits. The Cell armor for Vegeta is wearing out its welcome, since in Z his armor changed every arc, sometimes multiple times like in the Namek arc where he started with his Saiyan arc armor without the hip and crotch guards (which I prefer. I'd love a Figuarts of that variant), before it got wrecked by Zarbon and Recoome, forcing him to use the "older model" without the shoulder guards and the brown padding. In the Cell arc, his boots had a yellow tip when Bulma made him a new outfit before he fought Cell.
I could not agree with this better.

Keeping characters with their old outfits doesn't make Super feel like a new thing to me, they should have stick with their RoF outfits as they scream like "Look this is a new series!" and I never liked that Vegeta regressed to his Android arc armor when his Boo arc outfit was a much better design IMO. I didn't cared much in JSAT because felt like it was played for nostalgia (Goku was using his Saiyan/Namek arc gi too), but then in BoG (movie) and later Super just made me rolling eyes. My hopes for new outfits are saved to the next arc, but probably it won't happen :roll:
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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 84

Post by Dai-Saiyajin » Thu Apr 06, 2017 11:33 pm

A bit off-topic, but I made a possible schedule for the animators back in Z, based on the original airdates

[spoiler]E-1 :Last House / Masayuki Uchiyama (3 Weeks)
E-2 :Freelance / Katsumi Aoshima (8 Weeks)
E-3 :Shindo Production / Mitsuo Shindo (8 Weeks)
E-4 :Seigasha / Tomekichi Takeuchi (8 Weeks)
E-5 :Last House / Masayuki Uchiyama (4 Weeks)
E-6 :Studio Live / Yukio Ebisawa (8 Weeks)
E-7 :Studio Junio / Minoru Maeda (8 Weeks)
E-8 :Last House / Masayuki Uchiyama (4 Weeks)
E-9 :Freelance / Katsumi Aoshima (8 Weeks)
E-10 :Shindo Production / Mitsuo Shindo (8 Weeks)
E-11 :Seigasha / Tomekichi Takeuchi (8 Weeks)
E-12 :Last House / Masayuki Uchiyama (4 Weeks)
E-13 :Studio Live / Yukio Ebisawa (7 Weeks)
E-14 :Studio Junio / Minoru Maeda (7 Weeks)
E-15 :Last House / Masayuki Uchiyama (3 Weeks)
E-16 :Freelance / Katsumi Aoshima (7 Weeks)
E-17 :Shindo Production / Mitsuo Shindo (8 Weeks)
E-18 :Last House / Masayuki Uchiyama (4 Weeks)
E-19 :Seigasha / Tomekichi Takeuchi (9 Weeks)
E-20 :Studio Live / Yukio Ebisawa (8 Weeks)
E-21 :Studio Junio / Minoru Maeda (8 Weeks)
E-22 :Last House / Masayuki Uchiyama (5 Weeks)
E-23 :Freelance / Katsumi Aoshima (9 Weeks)
E-24 :Shindo Production / Mitsuo Shindo (8 Weeks)
E-25 :Seigasha / Tomekichi Takeuchi (7 Weeks)
E-26 :Last House / Masayuki Uchiyama (4 Weeks)
E-27 :Studio Live / Yukio Ebisawa (9 Weeks)
E-28 :Studio Junio / Minoru Maeda (9 Weeks)
E-29 :Last House / Masayuki Uchiyama (4 Weeks)
E-30 :Freelance / Katsumi Aoshima (8 Weeks)
E-31 :Seigasha / Tomekichi Takeuchi (7 Weeks)
E-32 :Last House / Masayuki Uchiyama (6 Weeks)
E-33 :Studio Live / Yukio Ebisawa (9 Weeks)
E-34 :Studio Junio / Minoru Maeda (9 Weeks)
E-35 :Last House / Masayuki Uchiyama (3 Weeks)
E-36 :Seigasha / Tomekichi Takeuchi (8 Weeks)
E-37 :Shindo Production / Mitsuo Shindo (17 Weeks)
E-38 :Last House / Masayuki Uchiyama (3 Weeks)
E-39 :Studio Live / Yukio Ebisawa (6 Weeks)
E-40 :Seigasha / Tomekichi Takeuchi (4 Weeks)
E-41 :Studio Junio / Minoru Maeda (7 Weeks)
E-42 :Last House / Masayuki Uchiyama (5 Weeks)
E-43 :Shindo Production / Mitsuo Shindo (7 Weeks)
E-44 :Toei Animation / Katsuyoshi Nakatsuru (9 Weeks)
E-45 :Last House / Masayuki Uchiyama (3 Weeks)
E-46 :Studio Live / Yukio Ebisawa (8 Weeks)
E-47 :Seigasha / Tomekichi Takeuchi (8 Weeks)
E-48 :Studio Junio / Minoru Maeda (8 Weeks)
E-49 :Last House / Masayuki Uchiyama (4 Weeks)
E-50 :Shindo Production / Mitsuo Shindo (7 Weeks)
E-51 :Studio Live / Yukio Ebisawa (5 Weeks)
E-52 :Shindo Production / Mitsuo Shindo (3 Weeks)
E-53 :Last House / Masayuki Uchiyama (5 Weeks)
E-54 :Seigasha / Tomekichi Takeuchi (8 Weeks)
E-55 :Last House / Masayuki Uchiyama (3 Weeks)
E-56 :Studio Live / Yukio Ebisawa (8 Weeks)
E-57 :Shindo Production / Mitsuo Shindo (7 Weeks)
E-58 :Seigasha / Tomekichi Takeuchi (7 Weeks)
E-59 :Last House / Masayuki Uchiyama (6 Weeks)
E-60 :Shindo Production / Mitsuo Shindo (4 Weeks)
E-61 :Studio Live / Yukio Ebisawa (6 Weeks)
E-62 :Last House / Masayuki Uchiyama (3 Weeks)
E-63 :Seigasha / Tomekichi Takeuchi (5 Weeks)
E-64 :Studio Junio / Masaki Sato (16 Weeks)
E-65 :Shindo Production / Mitsuo Shindo (8 Weeks)
E-66 :Studio Live / Yukio Ebisawa (8 Weeks)
E-67 :Last House / Masayuki Uchiyama (8 Weeks)
E-68 :Seigasha / Masahiro Shimanuki (8 Weeks)
E-69 :Shindo Production / Mitsuo Shindo (4 Weeks)
E-70 :Studio Junio / Minoru Maeda (6 Weeks)
E-71 :Studio Live / Yukio Ebisawa (5 Weeks)
E-72 :Last House / Masayuki Uchiyama (5 Weeks)
E-73 :Shindo Production / Mitsuo Shindo (6 Weeks)
E-74 :Last House / Masayuki Uchiyama (4 Weeks)
E-75 :Studio Live / Yukio Ebisawa (6 Weeks)
E-76 :Seigasha / Masahiro Shimanuki (10 Weeks)
E-77 :Studio Junio / Minoru Maeda (9 Weeks)
E-78 :Shindo Production / Mitsuo Shindo (5 Weeks)
E-79 :Last House / Masayuki Uchiyama (5 Weeks)
E-80 :Studio Live / Yukio Ebisawa (5 Weeks)
E-81 :Seigasha / Masahiro Shimanuki (5 Weeks)
E-82 :Shindo Production / Mitsuo Shindo (4 Weeks)
E-83 :Last House / Masayuki Uchiyama (4 Weeks)
E-84 :Studio Live / Yukio Ebisawa (4 Weeks)
E-85 :Last House / Masayuki Uchiyama (2 Weeks)
E-86 :Shindo Production / Mitsuo Shindo (4 Weeks)
E-87 :Seigasha / Masahiro Shimanuki (6 Weeks)
E-88 :Last House / Masayuki Uchiyama (3 Weeks)
E-89 :Studio Live / Yukio Ebisawa (5 Weeks)
E-90 :Studio Junio / Minoru Maeda (13 Weeks)
E-91 :Shindo Production / Mitsuo Shindo (5 Weeks)
E-92 :Last House / Masayuki Uchiyama (4 Weeks)
E-93 :Seigasha / Masahiro Shimanuki (6 Weeks)
E-94 :Studio Live / Yukio Ebisawa (5 Weeks)
E-95 :Studio Junio / Minoru Maeda (5 Weeks)
E-96 :Last House / Masayuki Uchiyama (4 Weeks)
E-97 :Shindo Production / Mitsuo Shindo (6 Weeks)
E-98 :Seigasha / Kazuya Hisada (6 Weeks)
E-99 :Studio Live / Yukio Ebisawa (6 Weeks)
E-100:Last House / Masayuki Uchiyama (5 Weeks)
E-101:Shindo Production / Mitsuo Shindo (5 Weeks)
E-102:Last House / Masayuki Uchiyama (2 Weeks)
E-103:Seigasha / Kazuya Hisada (5 Weeks)
E-104:Studio Live / Yukio Ebisawa (5 Weeks)
E-105:Last House / Masayuki Uchiyama (3 Weeks)
E-106:Shindo Production / Mitsuo Shindo (5 Weeks)
E-107:Studio Junio / Minoru Maeda (13 Weeks)
E-108:Last House / Masayuki Uchiyama (3 Weeks)
E-109:Seigasha / Kazuya Hisada (6 Weeks)
E-110:Studio Live / Yukio Ebisawa (6 Weeks)
E-111:Shindo Production / Mitsuo Shindo (5 Weeks)
E-112:Studio Junio / Minoru Maeda (5 Weeks)
E-113:Last House / Masayuki Uchiyama (5 Weeks)
E-114:Seigasha / Kazuya Hisada (5 Weeks)
E-115:Studio Live / Yukio Ebisawa (5 Weeks)
E-116:Shindo Production / Mitsuo Shindo (5 Weeks)
E-117:Studio Junio / Minoru Maeda (5 Weeks)
E-118:Last House / Masayuki Uchiyama (5 Weeks)
E-119:Seigasha / Kazuya Hisada (5 Weeks)
E-120:Toei Animation / Katsuyoshi Nakatsuru (8 Weeks)
E-121:Studio Live / Yukio Ebisawa (6 Weeks)
E-122:Shindo Production / Tadayoshi Yamamuro (8 Weeks)
E-123:Last House / Masayuki Uchiyama (7 Weeks)
E-124:Studio Junio / Minoru Maeda (9 Weeks)
E-125:Seigasha / Kazuya Hisada (8 Weeks)
E-126:Studio Live / Yukio Ebisawa (7 Weeks)
E-127:Shindo Production / Tadayoshi Yamamuro (5 Weeks)
E-128:Last House / Masayuki Uchiyama (5 Weeks)
E-129:Toei Animation / Takeo Ide (5 Weeks)
E-130:Seigasha / Kazuya Hisada (5 Weeks)
E-131:Studio Live / Yukio Ebisawa (5 Weeks)
E-132:Last House / Masayuki Uchiyama (4 Weeks)
E-133:Shindo Production / Tadayoshi Yamamuro (6 Weeks)
E-134:Seigasha / Kazuya Hisada (4 Weeks)
E-135:Studio Live / Yukio Ebisawa (5 Weeks)
E-136:Last House / Masayuki Uchiyama (5 Weeks)
E-137:Shindo Production / Tadayoshi Yamamuro (5 Weeks)
E-138:Toei Animation / Takeo Ide (6 Weeks)
E-139:Studio Live / Yukio Ebisawa (4 Weeks)
E-140:Seigasha / Kazuya Hisada (7 Weeks)
E-141:Last House / Masayuki Uchiyama (5 Weeks)
E-142:Studio Junio / Minoru Maeda (5 Weeks)
E-143:Shindo Production / Tadayoshi Yamamuro (6 Weeks)
E-144:Studio Live / Yukio Ebisawa (5 Weeks)
E-145:Last House / Masayuki Uchiyama (4 Weeks)
E-146:Seigasha / Kazuya Hisada (6 Weeks)
E-147:Shindo Production / Tadayoshi Yamamuro (4 Weeks)
E-148:Studio Live / Yukio Ebisawa (4 Weeks)
E-149:Last House / Masayuki Uchiyama (4 Weeks)
E-150:Seigasha / Kazuya Hisada (4 Weeks)
E-151:Last House / Masayuki Uchiyama (2 Weeks)
E-152:Shindo Production / Tadayoshi Yamamuro (5 Weeks)
E-153:Studio Live / Yukio Ebisawa (5 Weeks)
E-154:Studio Junio / Minoru Maeda (12 Weeks)
E-155:Seigasha / Kazuya Hisada (5 Weeks)
E-156:Last House / Masayuki Uchiyama (5 Weeks)
E-157:Shindo Production / Tadayoshi Yamamuro (5 Weeks)
E-158:Studio Live / Yukio Ebisawa (5 Weeks)
E-159:Toei Animation / Naoki Miyahara (5 Weeks)
E-160:Seigasha / Masahiro Shimanuki (6 Weeks)
E-161:Last House / Masayuki Uchiyama (6 Weeks)
E-162:Shindo Production / Tadayoshi Yamamuro (6 Weeks)
E-163:Studio Live / Yukio Ebisawa (6 Weeks)
E-164:Studio Junio / Minoru Maeda (6 Weeks)
E-165:Last House / Masayuki Uchiyama (4 Weeks)
E-166:Seigasha / Masahiro Shimanuki (6 Weeks)
E-167:Studio Live / Yukio Ebisawa (4 Weeks)
E-168:Shindo Production / Tadayoshi Yamamuro (6 Weeks)
E-169:Last House / Masayuki Uchiyama (4 Weeks)
E-170:Seigasha / Masahiro Shimanuki (7 Weeks)
E-171:Studio Live / Yukio Ebisawa (7 Weeks)
E-172:Last House / Masayuki Uchiyama (6 Weeks)
E-173:Shindo Production / Tadayoshi Yamamuro (8 Weeks)
E-174:Studio Cockpit / Keisuke Masunaga (9 Weeks)
E-175:Seigasha / Masahiro Shimanuki (5 Weeks)
E-176:Studio Live / Yukio Ebisawa (6 Weeks)
E-177:Doga Kobo / Ichiro Hattori (5 Weeks)
E-178:Last House / Masayuki Uchiyama (7 Weeks)
E-179:Studio Cockpit / Keisuke Masunaga (7 Weeks)
E-180:Seigasha / Masahiro Shimanuki (7 Weeks)
E-181:Last House / Masayuki Uchiyama (4 Weeks)
E-182:Studio Carpenter / Yuuji Hakamada (6 Weeks)
E-183:Studio Live / Yukio Ebisawa (8 Weeks)
E-184:Studio Cockpit / Keisuke Masunaga (5 Weeks)
E-185:Shindo Production / Tadayoshi Yamamuro (8 Weeks)
E-186:Last House / Masayuki Uchiyama (5 Weeks)
E-187:Seigasha / Masahiro Shimanuki (7 Weeks)
E-188:Studio Carpenter / Yuuji Hakamada (6 Weeks)
E-189:Studio Live / Yukio Ebisawa (7 Weeks)
E-190:Last House / Masayuki Uchiyama (5 Weeks)
E-191:Studio Cockpit / Keisuke Masunaga (8 Weeks)
E-192:Studio Carpenter / Yuuji Hakamada (5 Weeks)
E-193:Studio Live / Yukio Ebisawa (4 Weeks)
E-194:Last House / Masayuki Uchiyama (4 Weeks)
E-195:Studio Cockpit / Keisuke Masunaga (4 Weeks)
E-196:Studio Carpenter / Yuuji Hakamada (5 Weeks)
E-197:Last House / Masayuki Uchiyama (4 Weeks)
E-198:Studio Live / Yukio Ebisawa (6 Weeks)
E-199:Toei Animation / Naoki Miyahara (6 Weeks)
E-200:Shindo Production / Tadayoshi Yamamuro (8 Weeks)
E-201:Studio Cockpit / Keisuke Masunaga (7 Weeks)
E-202:Studio Carpenter / Yuuji Hakamada (7 Weeks)
E-203:Last House / Masayuki Uchiyama (9 Weeks)
E-204:Studio Live / Yukio Ebisawa (9 Weeks)
E-205:Seigasha / Masahiro Shimanuki (9 Weeks)
E-206:Shindo Production / Tadayoshi Yamamuro (9 Weeks)
E-207:Studio Cockpit / Keisuke Masunaga (9 Weeks)
E-208:Last House / Masayuki Uchiyama (5 Weeks)
E-209:Studio Carpenter / Yuuji Hakamada (10 Weeks)
E-210:Studio Live / Yukio Ebisawa (7 Weeks)
E-211:Seigasha / Masahiro Shimanuki (7 Weeks)
E-212:Last House / Masayuki Uchiyama (7 Weeks)
E-213:Studio Live / Yukio Ebisawa (5 Weeks)
E-214:Studio Cockpit / Keisuke Masunaga (10 Weeks)
E-215:Studio Carpenter / Yuuji Hakamada (8 Weeks)
E-216:K-Production / Shingo Ishikawa (9 Weeks)
E-217:Studio Live / Yukio Ebisawa (4 Weeks)
E-218:Last House / Masayuki Uchiyama (6 Weeks)
E-219:Seigasha / Masahiro Shimanuki (10 Weeks)
E-220:Studio Cockpit / Keisuke Masunaga (6 Weeks)
E-221:Studio Carpenter / Yuuji Hakamada (6 Weeks)
E-222:K-Production / Shingo Ishikawa (6 Weeks)
E-223:Last House / Masayuki Uchiyama (7 Weeks)
E-224:Studio Live / Yukio Ebisawa (9 Weeks)
E-225:Seigasha / Masahiro Shimanuki (8 Weeks)
E-226:Studio Cockpit / Keisuke Masunaga (8 Weeks)
E-227:Studio Carpenter / Yuuji Hakamada (9 Weeks)
E-228:Last House / Masayuki Uchiyama (6 Weeks)
E-229:K-Production / Shingo Ishikawa (12 Weeks)
E-230:Studio Live / Yukio Ebisawa (9 Weeks)
E-231:Seigasha / Kazuya Hisada (9 Weeks)
E-232:Shindo Production / Tadayoshi Yamamuro (12 Weeks)
E-233:Last House / Masayuki Uchiyama (7 Weeks)
E-234:Studio Cockpit / Keisuke Masunaga (12 Weeks)
E-235:Studio Carpenter / Yuuji Hakamada (11 Weeks)
E-236:K-Production / Shingo Ishikawa (9 Weeks)
E-237:Studio Live / Yukio Ebisawa (9 Weeks)
E-238:Last House / Masayuki Uchiyama (7 Weeks)
E-239:Studio Cockpit / Keisuke Masunaga (6 Weeks)
E-240:Studio Carpenter / Yuuji Hakamada (7 Weeks)
E-241:K-Production / Shingo Ishikawa (6 Weeks)
E-242:Shindo Production / Tadayoshi Yamamuro (14 Weeks)
E-243:Last House / Masayuki Uchiyama (7 Weeks)
E-244:Studio Live / Yukio Ebisawa (10 Weeks)
E-245:Kino Production / Ichio Hayashi (11 Weeks)
E-246:K-Production / Shingo Ishikawa (7 Weeks)
E-247:Studio Cockpit / Keisuke Masunaga (11 Weeks)
E-248:Last House / Masayuki Uchiyama (6 Weeks)
E-249:Shindo Production / Tadayoshi Yamamuro (8 Weeks)
E-250:Studio Live / Yukio Ebisawa (6 Weeks)
E-251:K-Production / Shingo Ishikawa (5 Weeks)
E-252:Kino Production / Naoaki Houjou (9 Weeks)
E-253:Studio Cockpit / Keisuke Masunaga (9 Weeks)
E-254:Last House / Masayuki Uchiyama (9 Weeks)
E-255:Shindo Production / Tadayoshi Yamamuro (9 Weeks)
E-256:Studio Live / Yukio Ebisawa (9 Weeks)
E-257:K-Production / Shingo Ishikawa (9 Weeks)
E-258:Studio Carpenter / Yuuji Hakamada (10 Weeks)
E-259:Last House / Masayuki Uchiyama (5 Weeks)
E-260:Studio Cockpit / Keisuke Masunaga (7 Weeks)
E-261:Kino Production / Naoaki Houjou (10 Weeks)
E-262:Studio Live / Yukio Ebisawa (10 Weeks)
E-263:K-Production / Shingo Ishikawa (10 Weeks)
E-264:Studio Carpenter / Yuuji Hakamada (11 Weeks)
E-265:Last House / Masayuki Uchiyama (11 Weeks)
E-266:Studio Cockpit / Keisuke Masunaga (11 Weeks)
E-267:Kino Production / Naoaki Houjou (11 Weeks)
E-268:Seigasha / Kazuya Hisada (9 Weeks)
E-269:Last House / Masayuki Uchiyama (6 Weeks)
E-270:Studio Live / Yukio Ebisawa (11 Weeks)
E-271:K-Production / Shingo Ishikawa (11 Weeks)
E-272:Studio Carpenter / Yuuji Hakamada (10 Weeks)
E-273:Last House / Masayuki Uchiyama (4 Weeks)
E-274:Studio Cockpit / Keisuke Masunaga (10 Weeks)
E-275:Studio Live / Yukio Ebisawa (5 Weeks)
E-276:K-Production / Shingo Ishikawa (5 Weeks)
E-277:Studio Carpenter / Yuuji Hakamada (6 Weeks)
E-278:Last House / Masayuki Uchiyama (6 Weeks)
E-279:Studio Cockpit / Keisuke Masunaga (6 Weeks)
E-280:Toei Animation / Naoki Miyahara (10 Weeks)
E-281:Seigasha / Kazuya Hisada (11 Weeks)
E-282:Studio Live / Yukio Ebisawa (12 Weeks)
E-283:Last House / Masayuki Uchiyama (9 Weeks)
E-284:K-Production / Shingo Ishikawa (13 Weeks)
E-285:Shindo Production / Tadayoshi Yamamuro (11 Weeks)
E-286:Studio Carpenter / Yuuji Hakamada (14 Weeks)
E-287:Seigasha / Kazuya Hisada (7 Weeks)
E-288:Last House / Masayuki Uchiyama (8 Weeks)
E-289:Toei Animation / Naoki Miyahara (11 Weeks)
E-290:Studio Live / Yukio Ebisawa (11 Weeks)
E-291:K-Production / Shingo Ishikawa (10 Weeks)

Average Time/Episode:

Saiyan Saga (1-35) - 6,8 Weeks
Namek Saga (36-74) - 6,5 Weeks
Freeza Saga (75-107) - 5,5 Weeks
Garlic Jr. Saga (108-117) - 5,0 Weeks
Androids Saga (118-165) - 5,5 Weeks
Cell Games Saga (166-194) - 6,1 Weeks
Other World Saga (195-199) - 5,0 Weeks
Majin Buu Saga (200-291) - 8,6 Weeks[/spoiler]

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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 84

Post by Sodhi » Thu Apr 06, 2017 11:44 pm

#85 will only 2 weeks. Damn

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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 84

Post by ArchedThunder » Thu Apr 06, 2017 11:53 pm

Sodhi wrote:#85 will only 2 weeks. Damn
*was only
DBZ 83 and 85 both had the exact same animators too. 85 wasn't really an extra bad looking Uchiyama episode either, I wonder what happened behind the scenes that resulted in 85 coming out fine, I would guess a lot of uncredited animators from Last House, but yet 85 was still Uchiyama through and through (from what I remember).

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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 84

Post by Sodhi » Thu Apr 06, 2017 11:55 pm

It is surprising that 85 was fine looking. Maybe Uchiyama is really fast. He did a lot of 3-4 weeks episodes.

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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 84

Post by JazzMazz » Fri Apr 07, 2017 2:44 am

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Sodhi wrote:#85 will only 2 weeks. Damn
*was only
DBZ 83 and 85 both had the exact same animators too. 85 wasn't really an extra bad looking Uchiyama episode either, I wonder what happened behind the scenes that resulted in 85 coming out fine, I would guess a lot of uncredited animators from Last House, but yet 85 was still Uchiyama through and through (from what I remember).
#85 and #83 actually looked pretty decent for Uchimaya episodes. Namely thanks to Ohara and Shida delivering solid stuff in both episodes.
The noteable work from both episode #83 and #85 both came from Ohara.
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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 84

Post by Ajay » Fri Apr 07, 2017 7:25 am

Little bit of bad news, at least for the next month or two.

I asked Naotoshi Shida on Twitter if he will be working on Super anytime soon, and he responded that he's not working on it.

Obviously the language barrier makes it a little hard, so his phrasing to my response isn't the clearest with regards to the future, but given his previous tweets always mentioned whether he's working or scheduled to be working on the series, I'm assuming it's probably not great news.

On the flip side, the tournament hasn't even begun yet, so while he may not be working on anything right now or scheduled for the foreseeable future, there's always a chance he'll be involved the finale!
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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 84

Post by SaiyanGod117 » Fri Apr 07, 2017 8:02 am

Ajay wrote:Little bit of bad news, at least for the next month or two.

I asked Naotoshi Shida on Twitter if he will be working on Super anytime soon, and he responded that he's not working on it.

Obviously the language barrier makes it a little hard, so his phrasing to my response isn't the clearest with regards to the future, but given his previous tweets always mentioned whether he's working or scheduled to be working on the series, I'm assuming it's probably not great news.

On the flip side, the tournament hasn't even begun yet, so while he may not be working on anything right now or schedule for the foreseeable future, there's always a chance he'll be involved the finale!
That's fine as long as we get some new animators.

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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 84

Post by Ajay » Fri Apr 07, 2017 8:11 am

Okay, actual concrete bad news now: Episode 67's first half has no Blu-ray corrections. I guess they deemed those few problematic shots unimportant in the grand scheme of things. Bit of a shame.

I can't imagine there will be anything but minor continuity fixes here and there, but I'll take a closer look later. Not really sure what else they would even fix. The few problematic parts of 65, maybe?

I'm not really expecting anything.
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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 84

Post by JazzMazz » Fri Apr 07, 2017 8:14 am

Ajay wrote:Okay, actual concrete bad news now: Episode 67's first half has no Blu-ray corrections. I guess they deemed those few problematic shots unimportant in the grand scheme of things. Bit of a shame.

I can't imagine there will be anything but minor continuity fixes here and there, but I'll take a closer look later. Not really sure what else they would even fix. The few problematic parts of 65, maybe?

I'm not really expecting anything.
It's seems they just brushed over the blu-rays and are really focusing all their efforts on making sure this new arc looks serviceable. If #67 didn't recieve any corrections what so ever, then I doubt any other episode will.

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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 84

Post by Shreyas_Singh » Fri Apr 07, 2017 8:19 am

Ajay wrote:Okay, actual concrete bad news now: Episode 67's first half has no Blu-ray corrections. I guess they deemed those few problematic shots unimportant in the grand scheme of things. Bit of a shame.

I can't imagine there will be anything but minor continuity fixes here and there, but I'll take a closer look later. Not really sure what else they would even fix. The few problematic parts of 65, maybe?

I'm not really expecting anything.
Is there an episode in the current arc that needs any serious corrections so far?
Feel free to correct me if I say something wrong.

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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 84

Post by JazzMazz » Fri Apr 07, 2017 8:22 am

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Ajay wrote:Okay, actual concrete bad news now: Episode 67's first half has no Blu-ray corrections. I guess they deemed those few problematic shots unimportant in the grand scheme of things. Bit of a shame.

I can't imagine there will be anything but minor continuity fixes here and there, but I'll take a closer look later. Not really sure what else they would even fix. The few problematic parts of 65, maybe?

I'm not really expecting anything.
Is there an episode in the current arc that needs any serious corrections so far?
Eh, there have been none in this arc that have been offensive enough to recieve major corrections. We might see minor corrections in some episodes though.

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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 84

Post by emperior » Fri Apr 07, 2017 8:32 am

Ajay wrote:Okay, actual concrete bad news now: Episode 67's first half has no Blu-ray corrections. I guess they deemed those few problematic shots unimportant in the grand scheme of things. Bit of a shame.

I can't imagine there will be anything but minor continuity fixes here and there, but I'll take a closer look later. Not really sure what else they would even fix. The few problematic parts of 65, maybe?

I'm not really expecting anything.

Wow, what a shame. Really sad news, I wonder how much it would have taken for them to fix those bad shots...
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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 84

Post by superfan2024 » Fri Apr 07, 2017 8:50 am

If they don't fix 67, then their probably not going to fix 62 either.

Goddammit Kitano...

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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 84

Post by FortuneSSJ » Fri Apr 07, 2017 11:05 am

Fix the bad shots of episode 67 first part was the only thing I asked...
It's a shame the last episode of FT trunks arc looks like that, especially when the 2nd part is just <3

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