ArchedThunder wrote:So apparently we're getting a break for the first week of January, so that will be helpful in spreading the supervisors back out as well!
Yeah, I think that break is going to be coming around about the start of the new arc. I hope it leads to the episodes after having a higher level of polish!
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Funny how all of those were by Shimanuki xD
I think Kazuya Hisada, another big name on Z, was credited with the gif. The rest were by Shimanuki. His effects works were really spectacular back in the day. Also Background animation
I think Kazuya Hisada, another big name on Z, was credited with the gif. The rest were by Shimanuki. His effects works were really spectacular back in the day. Also Background animation
Does someone know who drew these shots? They are from episode 7 (the one which Kitano supervised) Does that mean poor Kitano is good but he just developed an Ugly style later on or it is just because of the horrible schedule in Super? [spoiler][/spoiler]
I mean, IMO, I like those shots, they have something I liked but I don't know how to explain it.
neolux wrote:Does someone know who drew these shots? They are from episode 7 (the one which Kitano supervised) Does that mean poor Kitano is good but he just developed an Ugly style later on or it is just because of the horrible schedule in Super? [spoiler][/spoiler]
I mean, IMO, I like those shots, they have something I liked but I don't know how to explain it.
Kitano might just be a really slow animator? He definitely shouldn't be a supervisor if that's the case. Super's schedule will chew him up and spit him out.
neolux wrote:Does someone know who drew these shots? They are from episode 7 (the one which Kitano supervised) Does that mean poor Kitano is good but he just developed an Ugly style later on or it is just because of the horrible schedule in Super?
The second one's Kitano, but I don't know if the first one is though, It could be partially corrected.
You're right though, Kitano definitely went downhill once the schedule died. You get instances like the second half of #51 where he clearly had more time, and his work is suddenly significantly better.
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The second one's Kitano, but I don't know if the first one is though, It could be partially corrected.
You're right though, Kitano definitely went downhill once the schedule died. You get instances like the second half of #51 where he clearly had more time, and his work is suddenly significantly better.
And then once the schedule got better they started throwing Kitano under the bus! I feel sorry for the dude, I hope going forward he doesn't have to be treated like he was in the second half of this arc.
I get why it had to be done, but the dude is simply not fast enough for the role he sometimes fills.
Ajay wrote:
The second one's Kitano, but I don't know if the first one is though, It could be partially corrected.
You're right though, Kitano definitely went downhill once the schedule died. You get instances like the second half of #51 where he clearly had more time, and his work is suddenly significantly better.
And then once the schedule got better they started throwing Kitano under the bus! I feel sorry for the dude, I hope going forward he doesn't have to be treated like he was in the second half of this arc.
I get why it had to be done, but the dude is simply not fast enough for the role he sometimes fills.
Yea it sucks :/ He gets 5 weeks on average for 1 episode. instead of the usual 6 weeks
neolux wrote:Does someone know who drew these shots? They are from episode 7 (the one which Kitano supervised) Does that mean poor Kitano is good but he just developed an Ugly style later on or it is just because of the horrible schedule in Super? [spoiler][/spoiler]
I mean, IMO, I like those shots, they have something I liked but I don't know how to explain it.
Kitano might just be a really slow animator? He definitely shouldn't be a supervisor if that's the case. Super's schedule will chew him up and spit him out.
This reminded me why I used to like Kitano so much! The Gohan drawing is incredible. It almost reminds me of Shimanuki for some reason even though it's more than distinct enough where you can tell its not him. The vegeta drawing is relatively good too. I miss this Kitano. He's not cut out for super apparently.
Jinzoningen MULE wrote: Maybe I should start making it a point not to comment when I'm not sure of something. Too many people know what they're talking about around here.
Disclaimer: I might get into a disagreement with you. Sometimes I might even get feisty about it. I'll never harbor negative feelings because of it though. I hope you feel the same way!
I made a bet with Alee9977 that Vegeta won't be beaten quickly by an opponent. If I lose, I switch my avatar to Vegeta getting beat by hit. If I win, he switches it to Vegeta holding Black by his hair. This will last a month.
Though I've only seen half of the episode it was pretty ugly, Kitano delivers big time. Only a few scene were okayish. Also, potential bank animation in the Kamehameha, Final Flash scene, all they would need to do is make some minor alterations and I can see that being used later down the line(though probably not).
I caught a little of the second half and it was a significant improvement. Be interested to see who it was. Some drawings were so on-model that I was almost tempted to guess Yamamuro. Probably not, though.
Ajay wrote:I caught a little of the second half and it was a significant improvement. Be interested to see who it was. Some drawings were so on-model that I was almost tempted to guess Yamamuro. Probably not, though.
That would be hilarious. Episodes like these are where I want Yamamuro, though.
The first half looked awful, but man did the quality improve in the second half of the episode. I think a re-watch of the episode in HD is really needed to get a better grasp of the quality of the episode. But so far it seems a very mixed bag.
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Akira Toriyama wrote:My policy is to try and forget things once they’re over. Since if I don’t discard the old and focus on what’s new, I’ll overload my brain capacity. I still haven’t lived down going, “Who the heck is Tao Pai-pai?” that one time I was talking with Ei’ichiro Oda-kun. But the fact that there are still people reading the series after all this time… All I can say is; “thank you.” Really, that’s all.
Akira Toriyama wrote:Drawing Dragon Ball again reminded me of two things--how much I love it, and how much I never want to do it again.
Kunzait_83 wrote:And if you're upset because all this new material completely invalidates the tabletop RPG rulebook-sized statistical system and flowchart for the characters' "canonical Power Levels" that you'd been working on painstakingly for the last bunch of years now... well I don't think there's a kind, non-blunt way of saying this, but that's 100% entirely your own misguided fault for buying so deeply into all this nonsensical garbage in the first place. And that you also have IMMENSELY skewed and comically backwards priorities in what you think is most important and needed to make a good Dragon Ball story.
Zephyr wrote:Goodness, they wrote idiotic drivel in a children's cartoon meant to advertise toys!? Again!? For the ninetieth episode in a row!? Somebody stop the presses! We have to voice our concern over these Super important issues!
Kamiccolo9 wrote:Fair enough, I concede. Sean Schemmel probably has some kind of hidden talent. Maybe he is an expert at Minesweeper. You're right; calling him "talentless" wasn't fair.
Michsi wrote: ↑Mon Jul 04, 2022 11:29 amIn Super Piccolo got yelled off the stage by Vegeta in the U6 Tournament arc and lost to Jiminy Cricket in the ToP , he deserved 15 new transformations with his theme song played by Metallica in the background.
I haven't seen the episode yet, but the way you guys are talking it reminds me of 62, Kitano delivering a bad half and then someone doing a better second half.
Supposedly it was Yukihiro Kitano and Hiroyuki Sakai supervising. Doesn't add up to what NewType said, but that was expected.
I'll confirm this once it's up on CrunchyRoll shortly. Sakai seems like someone to look out for, and I'll definitely have to reassess his work in #64 and make sure my guesses were correct, then.
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