Super Animation Catalogue 2.0

[Sodhi]

Onishi is from world trigger. Seems like a lot of world trigger staff has come to do things in Super.

[JulieYBM]

Hakamada Yuuji included, although Hakamada was an animation supervisor for Dragon Ball Z and Dragon Ball GT, too.

[ArchedThunder]

So I guess they figured while the schedule is still not great they can just throw World Trigger's staff on top of the Super staff.
I'm okay with that, it means we get better looking episodes, each animator won't be worked as hard and with more staff that should help the schedule improve faster, shouldn't it?

[Sonicjamareiz]

I hope the Mirai Trunks arc has at least this mini arc level of quality this should be the average quality from here on out.

[kinisking]

if future trunks arc looks like NEP we're in for a treat.

[Sodhi]

Even though episode #20 was nothing special, however Its still cool that the storyboard for that episode are now available.

[Ajay]

Who won it? This was up for sale at the same time as my #16 board. I didn't have enough money for both, so I just opted for the better episode.

The #20 board appeared to reference the movie a lot, too:

[ArchedThunder]

Who won it? This was up for sale at the same time as my #16 board. I didn't have enough money for both, so I just opted for the better episode.

The #20 board appeared to reference the movie a lot, too:

It still makes zero sense to me that they didn't reuse any animation from the movies for the BoG and F arcs.

[Sodhi]

They can't really reuse movie animation, as it would disrupt with the quality of the show.They also had tagoma torture thing if my memory is correct.

[JulieYBM]

They probably don't have the rights to reuse any of the films in that manner. The production committees are not the same on both ends.

[A Man named RJ]

They probably don't have the rights to reuse any of the films in that manner. The production committees are not the same on both ends.

I know 20th century Fox had it's rights to the movie in Japan and almost got the rights overseas (Sean Schemmel Confirmed the Licensing issues Funimation Had in trying to get the movie back in 2013 when i met him)

Are they at all on the TV Show's Pro. Committee?

[JulieYBM]

Fox is not involved with the animated series. I imagine that played a role in animation not being reusable. Given the hell production has been I doubt it was a creative decision.

[Ajay]

Here's a debate for you all. Couple of friends of mine are guessing that Yuya Takahashi is making a return for episode 44 based on the beams in the preview:



I'm not 100% sure myself. Would be absolutely great if it were Takahashi, but we've seen Karasawa do some pretty nice effects work himself in episode 37, so it may just be him.

Thoughts?

[Wezenheim]

I could definitely see it being Takahashi. The beam itself does kinda look like his (see Gohan's two handed blast in Resurrection 'F' vs. the soldiers), as does the camera work a bit. At the same time though, I also wouldn't be extremely surprised if it wasn't him. There is something kind of off about it if we're assuming it's Takahashi, but I can't put my finger on it.

[Sodhi]

That to me looks like karasawa. SImilar to his work in #37.

[Wezenheim]

That to me looks like karasawa. SImilar to his work in #37.

I think I'm leaning just a tad more towards Karasawa right now too. It does remind me of 37 a bit as well. It is really nice, whoever is animating it.

[LSSJGODSSJ4Gogeta]

Just because something is computer related does not mean its cgi. Computers were used back in the 90's too. Cgi is something that is 100% computer done. Like those awkward looking scenes in BOG and ROF where things look 3Dish.

cgi is more then 3d computer models, what you're saying is disrespectful to the line of work.

CGI is Digital enhancement. it would involve anything done in say after effects, or produced during compositing, Digital coloring is just that, digital coloring. it's not CGI since the original image was a scanned paper drawing.

Ad there's something you dont quite seem to grasp here.

You critiqued this image here

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BIG improvement, but I think you should aim closer to the old Z style.

and then you said

See now this is colored right.

As if they're even using the same color scheme

what you show is colors in extreme lighting conditions. they're not the same color pallete so why would you use THAT as an example? That would be like me critiquing this fan drawing

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for not using THESE colors

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Your argument is Moot.

Also

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the digital sticks out like a sore thumb when you see hand drawn vs cgi.

They're both hand drawn, and both digitally processed the only difference is one has paint on the back of it. Why you continue to insist that the image on the right is CGI (when again, they're hand drawn inbetweens) I have no idea.

And, frankly I really dont want to see Hand painted cels in a 2016 production, unless the situation calls for it. Thanks to HDTV and monitors existing, it looks fugly (since the paint is mixed you get color jumping) unless you were going retro, not just that but the sheer amount of time and people it takes to properly ink trace, mix, paint, and dry on one of those things is ridiculous. (done it before, was fun, but wouldnt do that aspect ever professionally.)

From Shirabako (2014)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N_jhRb_9yPA

Fusion reborn digitally processed? Lol what? XD You're trolling right?

[Ajay]

That to me looks like karasawa. SImilar to his work in #37.

I think I'm leaning just a tad more towards Karasawa right now too. It does remind me of 37 a bit as well. It is really nice, whoever is animating it.

Yeah. The only reason I'm thinking it may not be him is how round everything is. Karasawa is very angular with his eyebrows and noses and what not. This seems way more bubbly.

[Wezenheim]

That to me looks like karasawa. SImilar to his work in #37.

I think I'm leaning just a tad more towards Karasawa right now too. It does remind me of 37 a bit as well. It is really nice, whoever is animating it.

Yeah. The only reason I'm thinking it may not be him is how round everything is. Karasawa is very angular with his eyebrows and noses and what not. This seems way more bubbly.

That's true also. Maybe it isn't Karasawa or Takahashi! It might be too soon for the animator responsible (Inaba maybe?), but Goku in that cut reminds me of a drawing that was asked about a few pages ago:

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The ears are different and it probably isn't the same person, but the roundness of the face and eyes is similar.

[Ajay]

That's true also. Maybe it isn't Karasawa or Takahashi! It might be too soon for the animator responsible (Inaba maybe?), but Goku in that cut reminds me of a drawing that was asked about a few pages ago:

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Huh, good eye. That's interesting.

Man, it's just so hard to tell when they adhere to Yamamuro's models so strictly and we don't have a clear indicator of how things move.

Either way, looks like Karasawa's going three for three with this upcoming episode. The guy cannot do any wrong.