The final villain ideas for Super
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The final villain ideas for Super
So when Super comes to a end in the future, what do you want to see for a final villain? Some ideas that they have for a final villain:
- Gods from other universes.
- Zarama, the Dragon God who formed the Super Dragon Balls.
- Champa and Vados
- A good character that becomes evil (that is not Piccolo or Vegeta)
I think having Zarama be a bad guy would be a cool. Having the original creator of the Dragon Balls would make a neat final villain. I would love to see what design that they could give him. Imagine a mix between Red from the Spyro series and Corvus from Dragon Quest 9 for Zarama. However knowing Toriyama, he will probably be a tiny looking dragon that is cute outside and scary inside.
- Gods from other universes.
- Zarama, the Dragon God who formed the Super Dragon Balls.
- Champa and Vados
- A good character that becomes evil (that is not Piccolo or Vegeta)
I think having Zarama be a bad guy would be a cool. Having the original creator of the Dragon Balls would make a neat final villain. I would love to see what design that they could give him. Imagine a mix between Red from the Spyro series and Corvus from Dragon Quest 9 for Zarama. However knowing Toriyama, he will probably be a tiny looking dragon that is cute outside and scary inside.
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Re: The final villain ideas for Super
Still holding out on that "reality-warper like Janemba, only he or she has dialogue and the ability to banter back and forth with Gokû and the others".
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Evil Dragons in GT were the perfect final villain to end the series. I wouldn't choose no one else.
Zarama being who he is, could be the perfect final villain for Super.
Zarama being who he is, could be the perfect final villain for Super.
A world without Dragon Ball is just meh.
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A villain that looks like Monaca. Because that's the sort of final villain I'd expect from Super.
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Like Fat Janemba?! If that one came out nowadays, people would lose their shit. Same with Fat Buu.fadeddreams5 wrote:A villain that looks like Monaca. Because that's the sort of final villain I'd expect from Super.
A world without Dragon Ball is just meh.
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How dare you compare Fatty J to that nipple fiend! I never liked Fat Buu as a villain either.FortuneSSJ wrote:Like Fat Janemba?! if that one came out nowadays, people would lose their shit. Same with Fat Buu.fadeddreams5 wrote:A villain that looks like Monaca. Because that's the sort of final villain I'd expect from Super.
Fat Janemba would be welcomed. <3
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Re: The final villain ideas for Super
Some fans really want to see Evil Gohan or Evil Goku for Super. I really hope not. I don't think having Gohan become bad will make his rep in Super any better?
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Bring back Broly or Super Janemba. Case closed
As for Evil Gohan thing, its not about "improving his Yamucha-tier status in Super"
A meagre 50% of his emo-self in Cell Games (as SSJ2) would please his fans, at least.
To think we're already discussing about "final villain" when the show has hardly even crossed HALF of its run.
Goes to show
1. Whatever present stuff in Super plain sux
2. Undying & everlasting passion for Super
I think final last episodes of Super would be "monumental" in da sense of how much it'll contradicate EoZ events
As we know, EoZ was a nice prologue (Kid Buu's defeat~party at Bulma's house~a cute flashback of Kid Goku & his Jii-chan at Mt. Paouzu~28th TB~Goku's successor, Uub).
It remained mostly grounded & soft- a tone DBZ was missing ever since Son Goku Arc
Now with all bombastic, over da top "Goddo, Blueper Saiyajin, U6, AK47, etc", its super hard to find it all fallin in place with EoZ.
Then, we'll (most probably, or perhaps next gen DBZ fans) will be discussing ending of Super~EoZ cobtradications AND with conclusion being "Super is an alternate universe" :evil:
As for Evil Gohan thing, its not about "improving his Yamucha-tier status in Super"
A meagre 50% of his emo-self in Cell Games (as SSJ2) would please his fans, at least.
To think we're already discussing about "final villain" when the show has hardly even crossed HALF of its run.
Goes to show
1. Whatever present stuff in Super plain sux
2. Undying & everlasting passion for Super
I think final last episodes of Super would be "monumental" in da sense of how much it'll contradicate EoZ events
As we know, EoZ was a nice prologue (Kid Buu's defeat~party at Bulma's house~a cute flashback of Kid Goku & his Jii-chan at Mt. Paouzu~28th TB~Goku's successor, Uub).
It remained mostly grounded & soft- a tone DBZ was missing ever since Son Goku Arc
Now with all bombastic, over da top "Goddo, Blueper Saiyajin, U6, AK47, etc", its super hard to find it all fallin in place with EoZ.
Then, we'll (most probably, or perhaps next gen DBZ fans) will be discussing ending of Super~EoZ cobtradications AND with conclusion being "Super is an alternate universe" :evil:
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Its probably going to be some ultimate God even above the level of Beerus and Champa put together.
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-Makaioshin
-Someone from Whis/Vados's race
-Someone from another Universe
-Zarama
-Or maybe some kind of multiverse god.
-Someone from Whis/Vados's race
-Someone from another Universe
-Zarama
-Or maybe some kind of multiverse god.
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Zarama would be the only one who could top the last three villains, thematically wise.
We had the Galactic Emperor who was millions of times stronger than his stronger mutant soldier; a clone who had cells of the strongest warriors, techniques and knowledge; and to top it all the embodiment of chaos and pure evil.
We're so deep into the cosmos of it all, that it's hard to pull out another rabbit out of the hat. Not to say a "regular villain" couldn't do the job.
Well, the God who oversees our Twinverse could become a thing in the next chapter, so yeah... The door is never closed.
As for me, Zarama would be a great idea if he had a decent reason to be a villain. Like some green humanoid slugs breaking little pieces of his planetary balls. Otherwise a neutral villain in the same mold as Beerus, sounds pretty great.
We had the Galactic Emperor who was millions of times stronger than his stronger mutant soldier; a clone who had cells of the strongest warriors, techniques and knowledge; and to top it all the embodiment of chaos and pure evil.
We're so deep into the cosmos of it all, that it's hard to pull out another rabbit out of the hat. Not to say a "regular villain" couldn't do the job.
Well, the God who oversees our Twinverse could become a thing in the next chapter, so yeah... The door is never closed.
As for me, Zarama would be a great idea if he had a decent reason to be a villain. Like some green humanoid slugs breaking little pieces of his planetary balls. Otherwise a neutral villain in the same mold as Beerus, sounds pretty great.
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Re: The final villain ideas for Super
As much as I find the whole Zarama thing as a final boss interesting, I ultimately can't get behind it because it just feels too much like the final GT boss. I want Dragon Ball Super to be it's own thing. It's really hard to say who should be the final villain though. I could say Beerus, but the thing about Beerus is that he's kind of meant to be that untouchable tough guy who's mainly there to show that there's always someone stronger. It would just be weird. It could be interesting to see a fully realized evil Gohan, but that might be too similar to what happened with Freeza and wouldn't really serve Gohan well in any way as his potential has been over abused at this point. There are also the other Gods of Destruction I suppose, but in many ways they would serve the same role as Beerus. I guess for me I can't really make my final judgement on who would really be an ideal opponent until I see just how far Dragon Ball Super goes and what direction it ultimately ends up going.
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Yi Xing Long (Syn/Omega Shenron) could have been a great final villain, but his characters was badly made. He shows up out of nowhere with no proper introduction, he has little to no personality and his motivation was badly written. Not to mention Zarama is the creator of the original Dragon Balls while Yi Xing Long is a dragon born from being over used from the Dragon Balls. I think the two would likely be very different from each other.
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That's very true and a good point. I guess I was focusing to much on the idea of their origins relating to the Dragon Balls as opposed to their characters, personalities, and motivations.Hellspawn28 wrote:Yi Xing Long (Syn/Omega Shenron) could have been a great final villain, but his characters was badly made. He shows up out of nowhere with no proper introduction, he has little to no personality and his motivation was badly written. Not to mention Zarama is the creator of the original Dragon Balls while Yi Xing Long is a dragon born from being over used from the Dragon Balls. I think the two would likely be very different from each other.
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A villain who can't be hurt by god ki ? I think goku & vegeta have become really powerful to fight a villain. In the end, they'll have to use Super DB's to get back to the level where they started, i.e. , pre BoG level. Then they somehow defeat the villain. They also get to keep EoZ in this case.
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Have any of you ever read or heard of Dragon Ball New Age? There's a thread about it right here on Kanzenshuu(which i guess you're already aware of)
But the final villain should definitely be The Creator God of the whole multiverse. (the one above all) an omnipotent being who's the source of everything in existence and nothing can possibly exist without him.
that's what i want to see after the 12 Gods of Destruction.
and it would make for a great sense of despair aswell.
Besides that? i guess Zarama maybe. (definitely an interesting character!)
But the final villain should definitely be The Creator God of the whole multiverse. (the one above all) an omnipotent being who's the source of everything in existence and nothing can possibly exist without him.
that's what i want to see after the 12 Gods of Destruction.
and it would make for a great sense of despair aswell.
Besides that? i guess Zarama maybe. (definitely an interesting character!)
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Fatty J shoots blasts out of his nipples, just saying.fadeddreams5 wrote:How dare you compare Fatty J to that nipple fiend! I never liked Fat Buu as a villain either.FortuneSSJ wrote:Like Fat Janemba?! if that one came out nowadays, people would lose their shit. Same with Fat Buu.fadeddreams5 wrote:A villain that looks like Monaca. Because that's the sort of final villain I'd expect from Super.
Fat Janemba would be welcomed. <3
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I feel like it needs to be someone with the power to threaten all 12 universes.
I also would really like Zarama to be a villain of an arc, if only to have him shit talk the GT Dragons in the fighting games =P
"You call yourself a Shenlong? Pitiful."
I also would really like Zarama to be a villain of an arc, if only to have him shit talk the GT Dragons in the fighting games =P
"You call yourself a Shenlong? Pitiful."
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How do you even fight an omnipotent being?GodVegetto91 wrote:Have any of you ever read or heard of Dragon Ball New Age? There's a thread about it right here on Kanzenshuu(which i guess you're already aware of)
But the final villain should definitely be The Creator God of the whole multiverse. (the one above all) an omnipotent being who's the source of everything in existence and nothing can possibly exist without him.
that's what i want to see after the 12 Gods of Destruction.
and it would make for a great sense of despair aswell.
Besides that? i guess Zarama maybe. (definitely an interesting character!)
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You Don't. That's the point. It would be awesome to have such an overpowered character whom Goku and the Z Warriors could never defeat. And would make the story a lot more exciting. Since there's such a huge sense of despair.Sandubadear wrote:How do you even fight an omnipotent being?GodVegetto91 wrote:Have any of you ever read or heard of Dragon Ball New Age? There's a thread about it right here on Kanzenshuu(which i guess you're already aware of)
But the final villain should definitely be The Creator God of the whole multiverse. (the one above all) an omnipotent being who's the source of everything in existence and nothing can possibly exist without him.
that's what i want to see after the 12 Gods of Destruction.
and it would make for a great sense of despair aswell.
Besides that? i guess Zarama maybe. (definitely an interesting character!)