I'm enjoying the Trunks and Mai love story
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I'm enjoying the Trunks and Mai love story
I recall that Akira Toriyama said he wasn't very good at love stories. I can't really disagree on that; Chi-Chi and Goku, and Bulma and Vegeta's romances are pretty much skipped over, while Krillin and Android 18, and Gohan and VIdel got some romance but not really enough.
But I'm really enjoying the Trunks and Mai romance that has been developing, in both the past (BOG saga) and the future (Black Goku saga). Even though the two got together by comedy (Pilaf's wish turns Mai into a child) and tragedy (Mai leads Earth's soldiers to assist Trunks against Black Goku), it's nice to see how they come to care about each other.
Toriyama can be fairly good at romance, when he puts his mind to it.
But I'm really enjoying the Trunks and Mai romance that has been developing, in both the past (BOG saga) and the future (Black Goku saga). Even though the two got together by comedy (Pilaf's wish turns Mai into a child) and tragedy (Mai leads Earth's soldiers to assist Trunks against Black Goku), it's nice to see how they come to care about each other.
Toriyama can be fairly good at romance, when he puts his mind to it.
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In all this years i think Akira has learned much from other animes
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Toriyama doesn't strike me as the type to study romance from other works. I think this is just more of the same of his old work. That is, he starts off development as a joke and somehow makes it work without directly addressing it. His aversion to the trope also works in his favor as it never overstays its welcome, hardly being welcomed at all from the start. It's nowhere close to being the same, but it's akin to Senbei and Midori's slow development in Dr. Slump.
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I'm just glad that Future Trunks may have found his significant other. For all the shit that he has gone through, he deserves love.
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Going to be honest: I love the Trunks and Mai thing. It's an unexpected and hilarious repurposing of an old gag character that's become weirdly sweet.
I also like that it began as a one-off joke in Battle of Gods and Toriyama just fucking ran with it. Across time and space, no less.
The sole major exceptions in his work are Senbei and Midori, and Gohan and Videl. And even then, only kind of.
I also like that it began as a one-off joke in Battle of Gods and Toriyama just fucking ran with it. Across time and space, no less.
This seems like exactly his M.O., actually. Beginning relationships through tenuous happenstance or a joke, and skipping any development before actually bringing the characters together.In all this years i think Akira has learned much from other animes
The sole major exceptions in his work are Senbei and Midori, and Gohan and Videl. And even then, only kind of.
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I enjoy miraishipping a lot.
Just kiss already!
Future Trunks deserves a happy ending. Even if he doesn't get the future restored by the Super Dragon Balls (which is a real possibility), at least give him this.
Just kiss already!
Future Trunks deserves a happy ending. Even if he doesn't get the future restored by the Super Dragon Balls (which is a real possibility), at least give him this.
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I love the ship, but I'm tired of all the mushy teen awkwardness that's going on. Trunks is "supposed" to be 31 and I assume Mai is also 31, so why are they acting like pre-teens and saying "Oh no, it's not like that he he he". I'm also disappointed with the artwork concerning Trunks, because he still looks like a teen where at the end of his arc in DBZ, he looked very mature. (Of course I don't blame the artwork of Super on Toriyama)
It would have been nice if Trunks and Mai were presented as already being in a relationship, or even being married with those two kids Trunks were holding being their kids. How fun would it have been for Vegeta to meet his grandkids? That would have been epic.
It would have been nice if Trunks and Mai were presented as already being in a relationship, or even being married with those two kids Trunks were holding being their kids. How fun would it have been for Vegeta to meet his grandkids? That would have been epic.
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The only thing that feels odd about it to me is they're writing Trunks/Mai as if they're teenagers.
But they're like....30 year old adults.
I don't think 30+ year olds really act like teenagers in love.
But they're like....30 year old adults.
I don't think 30+ year olds really act like teenagers in love.
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I have to agree. They've been reminding me of teens I've been to school with and that isn't necessarily a bad thing but I would believe that adult relationships have a different tune to them or ooze maturity.precita wrote:The only thing that feels odd about it to me is they're writing Trunks/Mai as if they're teenagers.
But they're like....30 year old adults.
I don't think 30+ year olds really act like teenagers in love.
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Trunks is a half-Saiyan, and Saiyans age slowly.precita wrote:The only thing that feels odd about it to me is they're writing Trunks/Mai as if they're teenagers.
But they're like....30 year old adults.
I don't think 30+ year olds really act like teenagers in love.
And both Mai and Trunks are able to act professional and badass when they have to (Mai being a decoy for Trunks)
I don't understand romance, but I thought it felt very natural and sweet to see Mai and Trunks together. It wasn't overly sentimental and melodramatic.
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I'm more interested in the Zamasu and Black love story.
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Mai couldn't look at her boss blowing a kiss in the first arc of the manga.precita wrote:The only thing that feels odd about it to me is they're writing Trunks/Mai as if they're teenagers.
But they're like....30 year old adults.
I don't think 30+ year olds really act like teenagers in love.
It's been a running gag throughout the new material that she still thinks holding hands is somewhat naughty.
While I'd be all for them simply being together, this is in character.
If they don't hold hands by the end of next episode, Super is RUINED and I'm not gonna illegally stream it any more.fadeddreams5 wrote:I'm more interested in the Zamasu and Black love story.
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Agreed!Cipher wrote: If they don't hold hands by the end of next episode, Super is RUINED and I'm not gonna illegally stream it any more.
Zamasu touched his shoulder in this episode. Black is seen smiling later. It was adorable.
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I like how subtle the anime made it compared to the manga in the ealier episodes. I think it fits more with Toriyama's writing style, but that's just me. As to why they act like teenagers, well, Trunks is really shy when it comes to such topics (watch the scene where he explains how his parents got together to Goku) and the Pilaf gang have always been naive and innocent when it comes to romance, too. They don't exactly have time to start a serious relationship, either. Not to mention, most DB characters don't act their age anyways, especially in Super. (Not a complaint)
Make it canon, Toriyama!fadeddreams5 wrote:I'm more interested in the Zamasu and Black love story.
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One of my favorite theories before the arc started was that Bra would be Future Trunks and Mai's kid, and they'd give her to Vegeta and Bulma to be raised in a better time.Shinomori wrote:I love the ship, but I'm tired of all the mushy teen awkwardness that's going on. Trunks is "supposed" to be 31 and I assume Mai is also 31, so why are they acting like pre-teens and saying "Oh no, it's not like that he he he". I'm also disappointed with the artwork concerning Trunks, because he still looks like a teen where at the end of his arc in DBZ, he looked very mature. (Of course I don't blame the artwork of Super on Toriyama)
It would have been nice if Trunks and Mai were presented as already being in a relationship, or even being married with those two kids Trunks were holding being their kids. How fun would it have been for Vegeta to meet his grandkids? That would have been epic.
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To be honest the incisiveness makes it ackward for me knowing the actual age difference. It's almost as if they aren't confident that a relationship would be alright or ok.
It feels like almost acknowledging they have some sort of "forbidden love" undercurrent going on.
It feels like almost acknowledging they have some sort of "forbidden love" undercurrent going on.
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Its also possible they did it to give shippers and/or female fans another pairing to latch onto. Trunks was one of the few main characters never paired up with anyone, and the rest of the main cast is already married.
They have to keep the shipper fuel going somehow.
They have to keep the shipper fuel going somehow.
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I don't like it cause I never cared about romance in DB. But ep 56 really made the shippers go crazy. They wanted to see Mai and Trunks kiss but it didn't happen. I think this is more of a Toei thing than Toriyama.
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They "kissed", or touched lips at least, in Episode 60.Saikyo no Senshi wrote:Ep 56 really made the shippers go crazy. They wanted to see Mai and Trunks kiss but it didn't happen.
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They done did it!Alruneia wrote:I enjoy miraishipping a lot.
Just kiss already!
Future Trunks deserves a happy ending. Even if he doesn't get the future restored by the Super Dragon Balls (which is a real possibility), at least give him this.
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