What is your opinion on the "Black is Goten" theory?

[Doctor.]

Like it, hate it? Believe in it, don't believe in it? What would be your reaction if it came to be true and how do you think such a reveal would impact the series and the characters in this arc?

I have no opinion on it yet, besides thinking it probably isn't true and, if it was, it'd give Goten some much needed relevancy.

[404FILENOTFOUND]

They'll believe its Goten but I say let the chips fall and it could be Bardock.

Its a possibility but I doubt its Goten, Zamasu probably told Black to take form of the mortal who pushed him a bit wee hard

[batistabus]

The way Black talks about his body, and the way he reacts after fighting Son Goku, it seems to be pretty clear that his body once belonged to Son Goku.

[fadeddreams5]

I posted this when I first saw him as a joke. Then I noticed people seriously discussing it on Youtube. Lol.

It would be a nice twist though.

[Cipher]

Least plausible Black theory to recieve any serious discussion.

[Kamiccolo9]

Least plausible Black theory to recieve any serious discussion.

Black is Goku's long-lost second brother, who had been spying on Goku from afar, and took his name out of jealousy. Neither Bardock or Raditz ever mentioned him because of reasons.

[Doctor.]

Least plausible Black theory to recieve any serious discussion.

Black is Goku's long-lost second brother, who had been spying on Goku from afar, and took his name out of jealousy. Neither Bardock or Raditz ever mentioned him because of reasons.

I thought Goku's long-lost brother was Vegeta though

[MCDaveG]

Why is he calling himself Son Goku and hates Saiyans tough?
It's like many of those Snoke theories, people grasping on straws as they don't have more concrete indicators.

[Beyond]

I have no reason to believe it's true, but I hope it is just for the lols. Goten's reason for becoming blacks need to be extremely bad as well.

[FlpShimizu]

He at the very least has Goku's body. I don't know why some people still think he's Goten since Black clearly states it is Goku's body and Zamasu clearly is connected to Goku (in a bad way, but still).

When we had no clue of who Black was going to be, it was silly but it was anyone's guess. Now it's just used as joke.

[GodKaio-Ken]

If they had written it in a compelling way from the start I'd have loved it. Now I can't think of a single way it could make sense/tie in properly.

[Doctor.]

He at the very least has Goku's body. I don't know why some people still think he's Goten since Black clearly states it is Goku's body and Zamasu clearly is connected to Goku (in a bad way, but still).

When we had no clue of who Black was going to be, it was silly but it was anyone's guess. Now it's just used as joke.

It's obviously Goten in Goku's body.

[kinisking]

I wish it was, but know it isn't.

[ChronoTwigger]

If I take your mind away from your body and put it into another one, and I remove all your memories from that mind, twisting your thoughts and beliefs, and fake all of your senses...
Well, c'mon, you're just another guy, that's all XD.

[MajinVegetaPD]

Black himself made it pretty obvious by subtle words that it is in fact "Goku's" body. Trunks even says that Black refers to himself as "Son Goku".

Besides, in Trunks' timeline, Goten was not conceived yet. It is fair to say that Goten was conceived sometime after the Androids appeared, and before the start of the Cell games. Goku dies before the Androids appeared, it just doesn't fit.

[Xeztin]

I have a theory that it's Goten's body and the spirit residing in him was conjured by Zamasu. Maybe Black is a demon from the demon realm summoned under the command of Zamasu? I don't think it's Goku's body simply for the fact Goten has been completely absent from this arc and just like Trunks has a star moment in this arc, I think Goten will be involved too. I'm thinking that Potara on Black allows Zamasu to keep control of him, I'm looking for it to be removed and Black turning on Zamasu and killing him (When Zamasu falls in the opening) Or a demon could reside in the ear ring and take control of who ever it's equipped to? Black is obviously his own person! I think Black will turn on Zamasu when Goku removes his ear ring in a attempt to fuse with Vegeta.

[Neon Z]

I think it could be interesting. It'd be a fairly dark twist, since it'd reveal that Goten was born in the future timeline, but soon taken by Zamasu and then raised into a villain by him. It'd contradict some material that mentions Goten was conceived just before the Cell games, but it wouldn't even be the same timeline anyway. However, there's just not enough actual evidence pointing to it. It seems to be entirely based on two elements, both which have big flaws:

-Goku Black has 3 hair spikes on the "back" side of his head in front shots, while Goku in Super has 4 and Goten has 3. The main issue there though is that it seems to be based on Yamamuro's designs. Toriyama still drew Goku with 3 hair spikes as recently as Battle of Gods. In the Super manga, Goku also has only 3 hair spikes too. His design in the beginning of Z, even in the anime, also only had 3 hair spikes.

-Goten has been added to the new title card in spite of being completely irrelevant so far. Super's marketing material often doesn't really match the actual story content though, like Gohan receiving some focus in the BoGs version of the opening, only to have less screentime than in the movie.

Some of the apparent plotholes with the theory could be explained:
-The references to mastering Goku's power and such could just come from him being Goku's son, and so it being an indirect reference to the power he inherited from him.
-The references to "this body" could just be about him having become an official god somehow, and so not just a half-Saiyan anymore. We know that it's possible since Whis offered to train Goku or Vegeta for the God of Destruction position.

Giving Black the identity of an existing character would also make the mystery behind his appearance be much more justified than just making him some kind of construct or clone. Personally, I'd like the twist and it'd make the conflict very personal, but I just don't see them taking this route.

[The_Destroyer]

Like other have said, if it was set up properly it would have been pretty awesome. It's a great way to give Goten relevance. Especially since we could see how it would affect Present Trunks and Goten, knowing that in another timeline they're enemies.Hell, it would have been interesting to see what Goku would do if his son wasn't a good guy. It wouldn't be as good if they tried it this late,though. I think it's a missed opportunity, but this mortal hating Kai is a good storyline too. They could have built a palpatine-vader relationship between Blackten and Zamasu, with ningen hating embded into Goten's mind through teaching, but that plot works best if it's just Zamasu imo.

Oh well, we can only imagine.

[Slaythe]

Garbage.

Not just "oh it's bad", it's literally coming from NOWHERE and has no reason to even be a theory.

That's how I feel about it.

[Analytical Delusion]

Black was clutching his heart when he travelled to the past and fought Goku, wasn't he? Seems to hint that it's Goku's body, in some form.