How could/should Black and Zamasu be defeated?

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How could/should Black and Zamasu be defeated?

Post by ryou766 » Thu Sep 08, 2016 11:01 pm

These are two well crafted villains that we haven't gotten in awhile when it comes to DB.

Question is, how should and could they be defeated?

Zamasu has an immortal body, so my guess is Zeno would have to come into play when it comes to his fate. Perhaps be sealed away?

Black becomes stronger the more he fights, so the stronger opponent he faces (let's just say Gogeta for the hell of it), he'll gain more power from that and become even more of a problem.

I also wouldn't want a half assed defeat when it comes to those two. It needs to be rational.
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Re: How could/should Black and Zamasu be defeated?

Post by Anime Kitten » Thu Sep 08, 2016 11:13 pm

I'd say Future Mai should use Trunks' sword to stab Black (repeatedly, if need be) while he's off-guard. Since Zamasu is immortal and all, it would be cool to see him reformed, otherwise they'd have to somehow banish him from the Omniverse, presumably by calling the Omni-King to do so. Sound convincing?
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Re: How could/should Black and Zamasu be defeated?

Post by Sodhi » Thu Sep 08, 2016 11:14 pm

I think this video does a good job of exploring how can they deferat Zamasu
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Re: How could/should Black and Zamasu be defeated?

Post by Doctor. » Thu Sep 08, 2016 11:15 pm

Anime Kitten wrote:I'd say Future Mai should use Trunks' sword to stab Black (repeatedly, if need be) while he's off-guard.
The uproar would be outrageous.

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Re: How could/should Black and Zamasu be defeated?

Post by SSJ God Gogeta » Thu Sep 08, 2016 11:21 pm

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Anime Kitten wrote:I'd say Future Mai should use Trunks' sword to stab Black (repeatedly, if need be) while he's off-guard.
The uproar would be outrageous.
I don't see nothin' wrong with that. :P :lol:
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Re: How could/should Black and Zamasu be defeated?

Post by Kakarotto92 » Thu Sep 08, 2016 11:40 pm

In case the theory about Zamasu and Black being the Kaioshin and Hakaishin ends up being confirmed, then they'd just have to kill Black.

Either that, or Zeno will punish him for his misbehaviour and wipe him out of existence.
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Re: How could/should Black and Zamasu be defeated?

Post by SSJ God Gogeta » Thu Sep 08, 2016 11:46 pm

How about Beerus seals Zamasu up in a sword?
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Re: How could/should Black and Zamasu be defeated?

Post by ryou766 » Thu Sep 08, 2016 11:48 pm

SSJ God Gogeta wrote:How about Beerus seals Zamasu up in a sword?
I thought about the Z-Sword but then remembered it was severed in two. Unless there's another sword?

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Re: How could/should Black and Zamasu be defeated?

Post by SSJ God Gogeta » Thu Sep 08, 2016 11:51 pm

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SSJ God Gogeta wrote:How about Beerus seals Zamasu up in a sword?
I thought about the Z-Sword but then remembered it was severed in two. Unless there's another sword?
Just use Trunks' sword.
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Re: How could/should Black and Zamasu be defeated?

Post by Hellspawn28 » Fri Sep 09, 2016 12:55 am

Either they will lock him up in some type of item trap in another dimension or Toriyama will have immortals die if the head is remove from the body.
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Re: How could/should Black and Zamasu be defeated?

Post by Chuquita » Fri Sep 09, 2016 1:11 am

I can see Zamasu being sealed inside a comedic type of container the way King Piccolo was (maybe a little teapot?).

Gokû Black, however, depends on what his backstory ultimately is. Either he'll be completely destroyed OR whatever's controlling that Gokû body will be exorcised/cut off from it.
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Re: How could/should Black and Zamasu be defeated?

Post by SSJ God Gogeta » Fri Sep 09, 2016 1:17 am

Chuquita wrote:I can see Zamasu being sealed inside a comedic type of container the way King Piccolo was (maybe a little teapot?).
Damn, that's a good one! I like that idea a lot more.
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Re: How could/should Black and Zamasu be defeated?

Post by HeroR » Fri Sep 09, 2016 1:35 am

Kakarotto92 wrote:In case the theory about Zamasu and Black being the Kaioshin and Hakaishin ends up being confirmed, then they'd just have to kill Black.

Either that, or Zeno will punish him for his misbehaviour and wipe him out of existence.
Even if they are link, if Zamasu is a complete immortal, killing Black wouldn't kill him. If anything, it would make Black an immortal too.
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Re: How could/should Black and Zamasu be defeated?

Post by UpFromTheSkies » Fri Sep 09, 2016 2:08 am

He's immortal, so they'll need to imprison or immobilize him somehow.

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Re: How could/should Black and Zamasu be defeated?

Post by Friezacooler » Fri Sep 09, 2016 5:02 am

Just bring in more smoke grenades, one nearly did the job.

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Re: How could/should Black and Zamasu be defeated?

Post by SSJ God Gogeta » Fri Sep 09, 2016 5:11 am

I got a new one, now just hear me out... What if... Beerus... Just kills them both!? No sweat! Big bad God of Destruction just straight up merc the bastards. The day is saved once more!

Yeeeeah. :lol:
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Re: How could/should Black and Zamasu be defeated?

Post by PMD » Fri Sep 09, 2016 10:02 am

Kakarotto92 wrote:In case the theory about Zamasu and Black being the Kaioshin and Hakaishin ends up being confirmed, then they'd just have to kill Black.

Either that, or Zeno will punish him for his misbehaviour and wipe him out of existence.
I thought the same thing, but I don't think that would be enough. Killing Black, I mean.
Friezacooler wrote:Just bring in more smoke grenades, one nearly did the job.
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Re: How could/should Black and Zamasu be defeated?

Post by Anime Kitten » Fri Sep 09, 2016 12:20 pm

Chuquita wrote:Gokû Black, however, depends on what his backstory ultimately is. Either he'll be completely destroyed OR whatever's controlling that Gokû body will be exorcised/cut off from it.
This seems pretty logical. Would be cool to see that Goku body (Future Goku?) active.
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Re: How could/should Black and Zamasu be defeated?

Post by Lord Beerus » Fri Sep 09, 2016 4:46 pm

Future Trunks deals the fatal, final blow or we riot.

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Re: How could/should Black and Zamasu be defeated?

Post by ekrolo2 » Fri Sep 09, 2016 4:49 pm

If Goku uses the Zeno button to solve the Black/Zamasu problem, I'll have a good way to walk off from this franchise. Content with the knowledge that it will be shit for the foreseeable future.
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