Will Goku surpass everyone in Super?

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Will Goku surpass everyone in Super?

Post by Lujin_16 » Wed Sep 21, 2016 9:09 am

That's the plan right?? or you think no he will not surpass everyone??


If yes i can not imagine that he becomes the strongest really soon if then after 4-6 arcs or something because there are to many stronger fighters than Goku..

i am sure they will introduce more stronger fighters in the future, so is the plan of Toei/ Akira to make more arcs and of course make Goku the strongest in the future???

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Re: Will Goku surpass everyone in Super?

Post by sintzu » Wed Sep 21, 2016 9:32 am

I think Goku will win the universal tournament so that should make him the strongest fighter but I doubt he'll surpass people like Whis and Vados.
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Re: Will Goku surpass everyone in Super?

Post by Captain Strawberry » Wed Sep 21, 2016 9:41 am

Goku becoming the strongest physically isn't good story.

Toei will want Super to go as long as possible as long as it sells the toys.
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Re: Will Goku surpass everyone in Super?

Post by VegettoEX » Wed Sep 21, 2016 9:47 am

Maybe? Maybe not?

I don't think there's any way to predict something like this. That being said, from the very beginning of the story, Goku has been set up to lose. And sometimes to win. But he loses pretty often. That's what makes for an interesting story (unless you go the route of One-Punch Man where the central story isn't the actual story, but the internal character emotional conflicts), because it provides room for growth.
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Re: Will Goku surpass everyone in Super?

Post by UpFromTheSkies » Wed Sep 21, 2016 9:58 am

I can't imagine someone stronger than an immortal God, but Toriyama always finds a way to top his previous villains.

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Re: Will Goku surpass everyone in Super?

Post by Lord Beerus » Wed Sep 21, 2016 5:45 pm

Unless Toriyama calls for it, no.

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Re: Will Goku surpass everyone in Super?

Post by Hellspawn28 » Thu Sep 22, 2016 1:09 pm

The series would be pretty boring if Goku was stronger than the Omni King and everyone else from Universes 1-12. Goku was never the strongest in DBZ, GT and the 13 movies. I doubt he will be the strongest in Super.
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Re: Will Goku surpass everyone in Super?

Post by Marco Polo » Thu Sep 22, 2016 1:19 pm

Rule #1 of every shonen ever:

There is always someone stronger.

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Re: Will Goku surpass everyone in Super?

Post by SansrivaaL » Thu Sep 22, 2016 1:31 pm

As much as I want Goku to surpass literally everyone including the omni king, I doubt it.

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Re: Will Goku surpass everyone in Super?

Post by buutenks » Thu Sep 22, 2016 1:33 pm

He will surpass Beerus eventually, but think he will stop there. Perhaps he will get close to the power of Whis. But who knows really. Anything is possible.

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Re: Will Goku surpass everyone in Super?

Post by dragonballhero » Thu Sep 22, 2016 1:53 pm

At the very best, I REALLY want Goku (and Vegeta) to at least surpass Beerus. MAYBE Whis, but I definitely don't see THAT happening in comparison to Beerus.

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Re: Will Goku surpass everyone in Super?

Post by Nejishiki » Thu Sep 22, 2016 2:10 pm

If the story calls for Goku surpassing the Hakaishin, I'd like for the "scale" to change. Focus on fighters combining their form with otherworldly abilities to overcome. Explore universes with alien environments, as briefly touched with planets possessing amplified gravity. We got a taste of that with Hit and he still has unknown techniques. There's also an evolved Salad sitting around, fresh for "new rules". It would be cool to reinvigorate the magical side of Dragon Ball further. It's also a satisfactory method to keep Goku learning, as there's always something new in martial arts.

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Re: Will Goku surpass everyone in Super?

Post by Dragon Ball Ireland » Fri Sep 23, 2016 12:20 pm

Initially I was inclined to believe he would surpass everyone including Whis, although I'm starting to doubt that and feel he may surpass Beerus at least.

As for my personal preference I'm going to say no, and I say that for the same reason I don't want to see the final villain of Super be defeated by a Genki Dama. At this rate the Black arc and remainder of Super could be on par with DBZ if the animation remains as it is now and TOEI steers clear of any kind of generic story resolutions.
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Re: Will Goku surpass everyone in Super?

Post by MadSaiyantist » Fri Sep 23, 2016 2:53 pm

In the near Future I could see Goku surpassing Beerus. Who knows? This is the Goku and Vegeta show so maybe the strongest character in the series will be some form of Vegetto/Gogeta. That's the way it was in Z at least.

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Re: Will Goku surpass everyone in Super?

Post by namekiansaiyan » Fri Sep 23, 2016 3:05 pm

sintzu wrote:I think Goku will win the universal tournament so that should make him the strongest fighter but I doubt he'll surpass people like Whis and Vados.
Since when has the tournament been stated to be a single person tournament. It will surely be a team tournament.

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Re: Will Goku surpass everyone in Super?

Post by Helios518 » Fri Sep 23, 2016 6:54 pm

namekiansaiyan wrote:
sintzu wrote:I think Goku will win the universal tournament so that should make him the strongest fighter but I doubt he'll surpass people like Whis and Vados.
Since when has the tournament been stated to be a single person tournament. It will surely be a team tournament.
We don't know how the tournament is going to be, It could be like the Tenkaichi Budokai (Yes please), or how the recent one was.
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Re: Will Goku surpass everyone in Super?

Post by sintzu » Fri Sep 23, 2016 11:05 pm

namekiansaiyan wrote:
sintzu wrote:I think Goku will win the universal tournament so that should make him the strongest fighter but I doubt he'll surpass people like Whis and Vados.
Since when has the tournament been stated to be a single person tournament. It will surely be a team tournament.
I know but I'm hoping Goku will somehow win it cause he'll finally become the strongest fighter of all time which has been his dream since the original dragon ball.
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Re: Will Goku surpass everyone in Super?

Post by Lionel » Sat Sep 24, 2016 1:31 am

Goku and Vegeta acknowledged their limits were close to being realied prior to the U6 tournament arc. If this established reference point carries enough meaning to compel the writers in maintaining it then Goku will have to find some alternative means of increasing power such as the Kaioken or newly improvised techniques as mentioned previously. Vegeta has no such luxury, though.

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Re: Will Goku surpass everyone in Super?

Post by namekiansaiyan » Sat Sep 24, 2016 4:39 am

Helios518 wrote:
namekiansaiyan wrote:
sintzu wrote:I think Goku will win the universal tournament so that should make him the strongest fighter but I doubt he'll surpass people like Whis and Vados.
Since when has the tournament been stated to be a single person tournament. It will surely be a team tournament.
We don't know how the tournament is going to be, It could be like the Tenkaichi Budokai (Yes please), or how the recent one was.
It does seem to be implied that it a team tournament. However, I want it to be a different format so every team member has equal value in the team so that no team can rely on only 1 or 2 members if it is a 5 man team.

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Re: Will Goku surpass everyone in Super?

Post by Baggie_Saiyan » Sat Sep 24, 2016 5:43 am

KoA will promote Goku with a proper God status. He will be the God of Gods.

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