"Dragon Ball Super" FUNimation Dub Official Discussion Thread

[Kaio_Krazy]

I wasn't thrilled with the way Mills sounded in super, and what I've heard from FighterZ doesn't change that. Ayres voice had a seasoned quality to it, that helped reflect a galactic emperor who's been around the block once or twice. Mills sounds like a younger guy trying to make himself sound like someone older and more sophisticated, it lacks a natural quality. At least, that's what I think my problem with it is, I'm not the best at pinning these kind of things down.

I don't want to discount him out of hand though, as he hasn't had much time at all to get acclimated to the roll. As much as I adore Ayres' Freeza, and am crossing my fingers that there's any possibility that he could return, I'm also trying to be open to a slightly different take on the character, and not reject it simply because it isn't Ayres...but I do still have to like the way it sounds.

[Dpc292]

I wasn't thrilled with the way Mills sounded in super, and what I've heard from FighterZ doesn't change that. Ayres voice had a seasoned quality to it, that helped reflect a galactic emperor who's been around the block once or twice. Mills sounds like a younger guy trying to make himself sound like someone older and more sophisticated, it lacks a natural quality. At least, that's what I think my problem with it is, I'm not the best at pinning these kind of things down.

I don't want to discount him out of hand though, as he hasn't had much time at all to get acclimated to the roll. As much as I adore Ayres' Freeza, and am crossing my fingers that there's any possibility that he could return, I'm also trying to be open to a slightly different take on the character, and not reject it simply because it isn't Ayres...but I do still have to like the way it sounds.

But it turns him from megatron to starscream if you get what I’m saying.

[Kaio_Krazy]

I wasn't thrilled with the way Mills sounded in super, and what I've heard from FighterZ doesn't change that. Ayres voice had a seasoned quality to it, that helped reflect a galactic emperor who's been around the block once or twice. Mills sounds like a younger guy trying to make himself sound like someone older and more sophisticated, it lacks a natural quality. At least, that's what I think my problem with it is, I'm not the best at pinning these kind of things down.

I don't want to discount him out of hand though, as he hasn't had much time at all to get acclimated to the roll. As much as I adore Ayres' Freeza, and am crossing my fingers that there's any possibility that he could return, I'm also trying to be open to a slightly different take on the character, and not reject it simply because it isn't Ayres...but I do still have to like the way it sounds.

But it turns him from megatron to starscream if you get what I’m saying.

Honestly that's not a terrible comparison, but let's wait and see how he develops in the roll, and while we may not get a Frank Welker (to continue with this analogy) we may at least end up with a Corey Burton (Transformers Animated Megatron) if that makes any sense?

[supersaiyandoctor]

I wasn't thrilled with the way Mills sounded in super, and what I've heard from FighterZ doesn't change that. Ayres voice had a seasoned quality to it, that helped reflect a galactic emperor who's been around the block once or twice. Mills sounds like a younger guy trying to make himself sound like someone older and more sophisticated, it lacks a natural quality. At least, that's what I think my problem with it is, I'm not the best at pinning these kind of things down.

I don't want to discount him out of hand though, as he hasn't had much time at all to get acclimated to the roll. As much as I adore Ayres' Freeza, and am crossing my fingers that there's any possibility that he could return, I'm also trying to be open to a slightly different take on the character, and not reject it simply because it isn't Ayres...but I do still have to like the way it sounds.

But it turns him from megatron to starscream if you get what I’m saying.

Honestly that's not a terrible comparison, but let's wait and see how he develops in the roll, and while we may not get a Frank Welker (to continue with this analogy) we may at least end up with a Corey Burton (Transformers Animated Megatron) if that makes any sense?

Where are you finding the samples of his FigtherZ audio? I can't find it anywhere on youtube.

[Dpc292]

I wasn't thrilled with the way Mills sounded in super, and what I've heard from FighterZ doesn't change that. Ayres voice had a seasoned quality to it, that helped reflect a galactic emperor who's been around the block once or twice. Mills sounds like a younger guy trying to make himself sound like someone older and more sophisticated, it lacks a natural quality. At least, that's what I think my problem with it is, I'm not the best at pinning these kind of things down.

I don't want to discount him out of hand though, as he hasn't had much time at all to get acclimated to the roll. As much as I adore Ayres' Freeza, and am crossing my fingers that there's any possibility that he could return, I'm also trying to be open to a slightly different take on the character, and not reject it simply because it isn't Ayres...but I do still have to like the way it sounds.

But it turns him from megatron to starscream if you get what I’m saying.

Honestly that's not a terrible comparison, but let's wait and see how he develops in the roll, and while we may not get a Frank Welker (to continue with this analogy) we may at least end up with a Corey Burton (Transformers Animated Megatron) if that makes any sense?

Could you explain to the unwashed masses what I’m getting at here?

[Scsigs]

As for Black Rose, the accent seems a little odd since he should just sound like an arrogant, polite, asshole with Goku's voice. But I remember MasakoX talking about it and said that a 'British' accent is needed for the arrogant/polite tone, which is what he does when he plays Black in those short clips, which got a lot of praise funny enough. But overall, the hyperbolic over Sean's version of Black has gotten out of hand with comparing to Funi earlier in Z.

Masako didn't use a British accent when voicing Black, not even Rosé form. He just used a more focused & arrogant version of his Goku voice & lowered his register a bit. THAT'S what I'd expect Schemmel to do.

Daman is fine, and once again no to Kuriboh. His Freeza voice sounds like the dude is pinching his nose when he's voicing him. It lacks the androgynous edge brought by Chris/Daman and dials the evil britishness up way to much.

I only brought him up, since all of their portrayals are based on the 'evil Brit' trope. LK himself IS British, so I thought it appropriate. I'm not saying they WOULD'VE done it & I'm not saying they SHOULD. Daman's gonna be his new VA & that's something all of us need to get used to. Which, by the way, he also voices Monaka. Fun fact there.

TFS is garbage. TFS voice actors are garbage. deal with it. they aren't suited for real dub works. why you keep talking about them like a blind fanboy? change the subject this ain't the TFS thread here

I only bring up TFS if it's a relevant thing to the discussion. YOU constantly throw blind hatred their way, which isn't conducive to a discussion, which is why we keep telling you to take these criticisms of them from this "half dead" thread as you called it (which, by the way, see what happens when there's ACTUALLY something to discuss?) to the official TFS thread, or, better yet, their YouTube videos' comment sections. There's a time & place for everything is all. Which, by the way, I disagree. There's something to be said for LK having a good portrayal of Frieza, but we haven't seen him in an 100% serious context. There's something with his performance that, if it were played straight, could make for a VERY horrifying character.
It's also relevant to bring them up here, since I genuinely enjoy Masako's take on Black, since his performance is what I expect of the character & Sean didn't give us that.

Then you haven't been paying attention. It's EVERYWHERE.

Why are you so insistent on putting TFS voices in as the official voices? His voice is good but isn't really fitting for a serious take.

I wouldn't say "EVERYWHERE," but I would get how it would get annoying when you're one of the people who realize that you shouldn't take TFS' words as gospel. I just don't see it everywhere.
And I'm not insisting they use TFS. I just made a reference to him. Calm it down.

No, he's in the right thread. Scsigs is the one that keeps bringing up TFS.

I only bring them up when it's relevant & I thought it was. Puar, on the other hand, only spews vitriol. Don't twist my words, I'm only saying that I appreciated the attempt at referencing the fandom & where they came from that Sabat did for Kai by bringing TFS in & I wish that they were allowed to keep it in, but Toei hates TFS &/or DBZA & I've accepted that. I was trying to make a comparison between them & Drummond, both of which I think were equally valid in bringing in, even though I'm not an Ocean dub fan & am a TFS fan.
It's funny how no one actually thinks to ask why someone would say something & either just assume, or don't. If you wanna know, ask. You technically did, but you assumed I wanted them to become the official dub cast. I don't. I just like references like these. Stuff the fandom can love for the fact that these people are who they are & were brought in for those who'd appreciate it. There's nothing wrong with that in my mind. I'd certainly find fault with it if it were all the time, but they're just a one-off things that Sabat does to have fun with dubbing the material & I think that's admirable. I appreciate going beyond what's needed for the job. If you don't feel that way, fine, but don't assume things just because you don't bother asking why I bring something up. I mean, shit man, I bring up TFS & you think I want them as a permanent addition to the dub casts. I don't want that AT ALL. Actually think through why I do something just because you don't agree, or ask before you accuse me of something.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nTY836hhY7o

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I would've used THIS one instead...https://youtu.be/9OufCgFZCyU?t=47s, since that's what was referenced there.

[Dragon Ball Gus]

As for Black Rose, the accent seems a little odd since he should just sound like an arrogant, polite, asshole with Goku's voice. But I remember MasakoX talking about it and said that a 'British' accent is needed for the arrogant/polite tone, which is what he does when he plays Black in those short clips, which got a lot of praise funny enough. But overall, the hyperbolic over Sean's version of Black has gotten out of hand with comparing to Funi earlier in Z.

Masako didn't use a British accent when voicing Black, not even Rosé form. He just used a more focused & arrogant version of his Goku voice & lowered his register a bit. THAT'S what I'd expect Schemmel to do.

Daman is fine, and once again no to Kuriboh. His Freeza voice sounds like the dude is pinching his nose when he's voicing him. It lacks the androgynous edge brought by Chris/Daman and dials the evil britishness up way to much.

I only brought him up, since all of their portrayals are based on the 'evil Brit' trope. LK himself IS British, so I thought it appropriate. I'm not saying they WOULD'VE done it & I'm not saying they SHOULD. Daman's gonna be his new VA & that's something all of us need to get used to. Which, by the way, he also voices Monaka. Fun fact there.

TFS is garbage. TFS voice actors are garbage. deal with it. they aren't suited for real dub works. why you keep talking about them like a blind fanboy? change the subject this ain't the TFS thread here

I only bring up TFS if it's a relevant thing to the discussion. YOU constantly throw blind hatred their way, which isn't conducive to a discussion, which is why we keep telling you to take these criticisms of them from this "half dead" thread as you called it (which, by the way, see what happens when there's ACTUALLY something to discuss?) to the official TFS thread, or, better yet, their YouTube videos' comment sections. There's a time & place for everything is all. Which, by the way, I disagree. There's something to be said for LK having a good portrayal of Frieza, but we haven't seen him in an 100% serious context. There's something with his performance that, if it were played straight, could make for a VERY horrifying character.
It's also relevant to bring them up here, since I genuinely enjoy Masako's take on Black, since his performance is what I expect of the character & Sean didn't give us that.

Then you haven't been paying attention. It's EVERYWHERE.

Why are you so insistent on putting TFS voices in as the official voices? His voice is good but isn't really fitting for a serious take.

I wouldn't say "EVERYWHERE," but I would get how it would get annoying when you're one of the people who realize that you shouldn't take TFS' words as gospel. I just don't see it everywhere.
And I'm not insisting they use TFS. I just made a reference to him. Calm it down.

No, he's in the right thread. Scsigs is the one that keeps bringing up TFS.

I only bring them up when it's relevant & I thought it was. Puar, on the other hand, only spews vitriol. Don't twist my words, I'm only saying that I appreciated the attempt at referencing the fandom & where they came from that Sabat did for Kai by bringing TFS in & I wish that they were allowed to keep it in, but Toei hates TFS &/or DBZA & I've accepted that. I was trying to make a comparison between them & Drummond, both of which I think were equally valid in bringing in, even though I'm not an Ocean dub fan & am a TFS fan.
It's funny how no one actually thinks to ask why someone would say something & either just assume, or don't. If you wanna know, ask. You technically did, but you assumed I wanted them to become the official dub cast. I don't. I just like references like these. Stuff the fandom can love for the fact that these people are who they are & were brought in for those who'd appreciate it. There's nothing wrong with that in my mind. I'd certainly find fault with it if it were all the time, but they're just a one-off things that Sabat does to have fun with dubbing the material & I think that's admirable. I appreciate going beyond what's needed for the job. If you don't feel that way, fine, but don't assume things just because you don't bother asking why I bring something up. I mean, shit man, I bring up TFS & you think I want them as a permanent addition to the dub casts. I don't want that AT ALL. Actually think through why I do something just because you don't agree, or ask before you accuse me of something.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nTY836hhY7o

I would've used THIS one instead...https://youtu.be/9OufCgFZCyU?t=47s, since that's what was referenced there.

Hey, you didn't respond to my recent comment. Probably because no one did.

[MR.Mark]

Kuriboh being British is an issue then, since he obviously is having trouble hiding his accent. Nothing against him actually being British though, (obviously) I just don't think his Freeza voice sounds fitting enough.

[Scsigs]

Kuriboh being British is an issue then, since he obviously is having trouble hiding his accent. Nothing against him actually being British though, (obviously) I just don't think his Freeza voice sounds fitting enough.

Why would it be a problem? He's British, so he plays it up for Frieza. Ayres & Mills do the same thing. He doesn't try to hide the accent, so...what's the problem with his portrayal?

[Dragon Ball Gus]

Why hasn't anyone responded to my recent comment?!?!?

You know what would be Super awesome? (Pun intended, as always). If we had an Ocean dub of Super, and while Drummond voices Regular Vegeta, It would be Sabat who voices Copy Vegeta. Tell me that wouldn't be dope!

[Dpc292]

Why hasn't anyone responded to my recent comment?!?!?

Who are you?

[Dragon Ball Gus]

Why hasn't anyone responded to my recent comment?!?!?

Who are you?

Dragon Ball Gus. But just call me Gus.

[Dpc292]

Why hasn't anyone responded to my recent comment?!?!?

Who are you?

Dragon Ball Gus. But just call me Gus.

I’ll call you nobody

[Dragon Ball Gus]

Who are you?

Dragon Ball Gus. But just call me Gus.

I’ll call you nobody

Hey, that's kinda mean.

[Cure Dragon 255]

Good timing Gus! This week's Dragon Ball Super ratings were off the charts! All thanks to Brian Drummond. LOL.

[Dpc292]

Dragon Ball Gus. But just call me Gus.

I’ll call you nobody

Hey, that's kinda mean.

Not as mean as I was to yo mama last night.

[Dragon Ball Gus]

Good timing Gus! This week's Dragon Ball Super ratings were off the charts! All thanks to Brian Drummond. LOL.

That's great!

[Dbzfan94]

I’ll call you nobody

Hey, that's kinda mean.

Not as mean as I was to yo mama last night.

Are you fucking 12 years old? Grow up man.

[Dpc292]

Hey, that's kinda mean.

Not as mean as I was to yo mama last night.

Are you fucking 12 years old? Grow up man.

Sorry, was just trolling, nothing serious about it man.

[MR.Mark]

Kuriboh being British is an issue then, since he obviously is having trouble hiding his accent. Nothing against him actually being British though, (obviously) I just don't think his Freeza voice sounds fitting enough.

Why would it be a problem? He's British, so he plays it up for Frieza. Ayres & Mills do the same thing. He doesn't try to hide the accent, so...what's the problem with his portrayal?

Ayres and Mills are nowhere near as British, or as cartoony sounding.

Chris brought an androgynous creepy quality to compliment the "gentlemen speak", that is Important to the character .

Kuriboh sounds nasally and overly flamboyant rather than androgynous. Evil British gentlemen is not the complete package of Freeza.

That's the problem with his portrayal.