"Dragon Ball Super" FUNimation Dub Official Discussion Thread

[MegaBossMan]

It seems they took out 17's dad joke ("How old are you?" "I'm 17") in favor of some really uncomfortable dark humor ("I like all the animals. Except humans.") Admittedly Krillin's uncomfortability plays off a bit better from the dark joke, but it was an unwarranted change that wasn't particularly any funnier. This doesn't change the course of Super's story massively or anything, but it's certainly confounding nonetheless. Not a change I had wanted but whatever. Not my script.

"Halo'ed like a cherub when it should be a crown" is an insanely sublime and salubrious translation, however, so there are pros to these cons.

[Shaddy]

You'd think they'd have fucking jumped at the opportunity to bring that sort of joke into the series with the way they added the other ones. Somehow they changed something to forgo needlessly self-aware humor for once, how incredibly weird.

[nato25]

It's been a long time since I've heard Ghost Usher in the English dub but I definitely don't remember he/she/it sounding like that!

[Lunatic Fringe]

Is this the first time where the dub does away with the dub spelling of Freeza’s name? If so, then that’s an upgrade that I hope remains consistent.

[uncutpokemon]

Is this the first time where the dub does away with the dub spelling of Freeza’s name? If so, then that’s an upgrade that I hope remains consistent.

Seeing as it was hand written by the characters, one could simply argue that whoever wrote it just didn't know how to spell his name.

[uncutpokemon]

Is this the first time where the dub does away with the dub spelling of Freeza’s name? If so, then that’s an upgrade that I hope remains consistent.

Seeing as it was hand written by the characters, one could simply argue that whoever wrote it just didn't know how to spell his name.

Side note, anyone remember which episode changes the opening to have Frieza replace Buu? I could have sworn it was supposed to have happened by now?

[uncutpokemon]

Is this the first time where the dub does away with the dub spelling of Freeza’s name? If so, then that’s an upgrade that I hope remains consistent.

Seeing as it was hand written by the characters, one could simply argue that whoever wrote it just didn't know how to spell his name.

Side note, anyone remember which episode changes the opening to have Frieza replace Buu? I could have sworn it was supposed to have happened by now?

[AzuraRacon]

So my first guess for the Dog guy was that they had Dameon Clarke throw in his voice as an extra while they had him for Broly, since he sounds exactly like Cell, but the thought just occurred to me that that could also be Daman Mills

He had his cell impression down to 1:1 especially for the perfect form even before funimation brought him on.

The characters a bit part and it seems the credits toonami uses don't list additional voices so we won't know until full credits for the episode are released or someone asks him

[PremiumSalt]

So it seems as though Mills is taking on the role of Freeza full time, at least for now... I certainly wish him the best of luck, he has some pretty big shoes to fill.

On a different note, I hope this doesn't mean Ayres' conditions has progressed dramatically, I guess I was kinda hoping for a miracle and that he'd pull through.

[Torturephile]

I just got off from watching the movie at the theater after being a naughty boy on YouTube after its Latin American premiere, and I'm impressed with this FUNimation dub. The acting in it by everyone was great, the dialogues work nicely without straying too far from the Japanese counterpart, and it overall managed to get me to dissolve much of my skepticism towards FUNimation based on what they've done before with the series. The one thing I didn't like was Vegeta and Raditz's grown up voices when they were kids.

Good job.

[NintendoBlaze53]

Managed to catch the film on opening night for the Australian release. Happy to report I enjoyed the dub, even parts of the DB dub I usually don't like Schemmel and added dub lines. The promotion for this film in Australia has been amazing, adds online and I've seen a trailer for this film in the past 3 films I saw in theatres. The dub performances are all amazing on all accounts. For dub only lines from what I know there are two main ones I've heard around the circles online.

Spoiler:

Goku saying "Have fun Freeza" before they IT out of there appears to be an added line where there was no dialogue before. and the films ending line of "My name is Goku, but Broly... you can call me Kakarot" when the original line was "My name is Son Goku.... Oh, I have another name too, Kakarot"

[Lord Beerus]

Caught DBS Broly last night. I thought the dub was excellent. Special mention to Ayres, Sabat and Mignogna who really stood out and brought their A-game.

[Baggie_Saiyan]

Having seen the sub I think FUNi made some right calls in what lines to spice up and or add. Biggest one was Gogeta naming himself thought that was much funnier in the dub Gokuga! xD.

Performance wise both Japanese and English dub I thought were the same, all excellent. I think both Schemmel and Nozawa both knocked out the park honestly thought I was gotten used to their respective Goku's but it felt they both breathed more life into the character sure the designs had to do with that! Goku felt so bubbly!!

And Ayres man. What a guy we are blessed to have him. Vic too, totally nailed the innocent side to Broly so well and of course his screams were awesome!

So yeah pleased with the film, both Japanese and English, the merchandise and the majority of the promo art. Save to say this film ticked all the boxes for me!

[Dragon Ball Gus]

How are people seeing this movie subbed? I thought the US release was dub-only.

[Shaddy]

They're doing screenings in UK and (Australia?) that have subtitles JP available.

Also, plenty of people watch camrips.

[mecha3000]

Is it just me or is anyone else getting even more annoyed at Tarble references in the dub. Ever since Battle of Gods and now Broly, the dub mentions Tarble, even though we've never actually gotten the 2008 special dubbed. And if anyone knows me on these forums, I'm really big on hoping the 2008 special along with the other specials get dubbed one day even though there's rights issues with the Tarble special, I believe. Still, at this point, even if they could receive dubs, from recent feedback, the fans don't give a crap about any of those specials. It's all about Super now and I'm almost certain Toei/Funimation reflect those sentiments. "We've got Super now! Who the hell cares about an old thirty-minute special from '08?! Besides, Toei won't let us dub it anyway so it all works out!"

Well, it just sucks because the '08 special was our first sampling of Dragon Ball returning one day (I think many fans forget that) and as a standalone story without setting up any gods and multiverse storylines - It's superb, in my opinion. Goten and Trunks actually have spotlight in it! Even though I do admit it's pointless to go back and dub it now, especially since it wouldn't be the same as if Funimation had done it before Super and the new movies were announced, I'M TIRED OF THE TARBLE MENTIONS WITHOUT AN OFFICIAL TARBLE DUB (outside of Raging Blast 2, which I love for the inclusion of OVA characters like Tarble and Hatchiyack, even if the former doesn't exactly warrant it).

I apologize for my sorta rant. I just somewhat miss the old days of DB before the new stuff and I always hoped the 2008 special most of all could've received a dub to bring back some of that nostalgia. As it is now, though, Funimation would possibly just throw in some meta humor based on the new stuff, which I would hate as the '08 special should stand alone.

[shadowmaria]

Is it just me or is anyone else getting even more annoyed at Tarble references in the dub. Ever since Battle of Gods and now Broly, the dub mentions Tarble, even though we've never actually gotten the 2008 special dubbed. And if anyone knows me on these forums, I'm really big on hoping the 2008 special along with the other specials get dubbed one day even though there's rights issues with the Tarble special, I believe. Still, at this point, even if they could receive dubs, from recent feedback, the fans don't give a crap about any of those specials. It's all about Super now and I'm almost certain Toei/Funimation reflect those sentiments. "We've got Super now! Who the hell cares about an old thirty-minute special from '08?! Besides, Toei won't let us dub it anyway so it all works out!"

Well, it just sucks because the '08 special was our first sampling of Dragon Ball returning one day (I think many fans forget that) and as a standalone story without setting up any gods and multiverse storylines - It's superb, in my opinion. Goten and Trunks actually have spotlight in it! Even though I do admit it's pointless to go back and dub it now, especially since it wouldn't be the same as if Funimation had done it before Super and the new movies were announced, I'M TIRED OF THE TARBLE MENTIONS WITHOUT AN OFFICIAL TARBLE DUB (outside of Raging Blast 2, which I love for the inclusion of OVA characters like Tarble and Hatchiyack, even if the former doesn't exactly warrant it).

I apologize for my sorta rant. I just somewhat miss the old days of DB before the new stuff and I always hoped the 2008 special most of all could've received a dub to bring back some of that nostalgia. As it is now, though, Funimation would possibly just throw in some meta humor based on the new stuff, which I would hate as the '08 special should stand alone.

FUNimation can't control it if the original script has Tarble references.

I'm pretty sure that there is a rights / legal reason why Yo! has never been dubbed, as well as timing, budgetary, and resources preventing it.

Who knows? Perhaps Toriyama will work Tarble into future DB stories, much like how Abo and Cado appeared in DBS: Broly in a cameo capacity.

It's too early to say it'll never happen, but it's too late to insinuate that folks don't know how it. There was also a line specifically in the special detailing that the reason it was not originally brought up in the anime and manga is because it happened too late in the real-world timeline. Or something.

According to Toriyama, the special has happened. According to Super, it hasn't. According to BoG and DBS: Broly - it has/will happen/ed

[mecha3000]

FUNimation can't control it if the original script has Tarble references.

I'm pretty sure that there is a rights / legal reason why Yo! has never been dubbed, as well as timing, budgetary, and resources preventing it.

Who knows? Perhaps Toriyama will work Tarble into future DB stories, much like how Abo and Cado appeared in DBS: Broly in a cameo capacity.

It's too early to say it'll never happen, but it's too late to insinuate that folks don't know how it. There was also a line specifically in the special detailing that the reason it was not originally brought up in the anime and manga is because it happened too late in the real-world timeline. Or something.

According to Toriyama, the special has happened. According to Super, it hasn't. According to BoG and DBS: Broly - it has/will happen/ed

Honestly, I kind of doubt Tarble will ever be brought back as Cabba already fulfills that role and honestly, I don't care for it to ever happen. My main interest in the '08 special receiving a dub one day. However, I have to give up that hope because asking for a dub for those is the equivalent of asking for the old One Piece movies to receive dubs at this point. Why would Funimation go back and give the old One Piece movies a dub when Stampede is coming out? It's just not logical, so I accept that it will probably never happen for the '08 special. As of now, I'll just treasure Raging Blast 2 - a game that is somewhat an OVA love letter and a sampling of what could've been by having English dub actors for Tarble and Hatchiyack. The Hatchiyack special is also included in the game (not dubbed though), which is also an awesome bonus, even if it's easily available online now and in France dubbed.

So yeah, I'll accept the DB fanbase's desire to move forward with the franchise both in the dub and sub, not backwards.

[Scsigs]

Is it just me or is anyone else getting even more annoyed at Tarble references in the dub. Ever since Battle of Gods and now Broly, the dub mentions Tarble, even though we've never actually gotten the 2008 special dubbed. And if anyone knows me on these forums, I'm really big on hoping the 2008 special along with the other specials get dubbed one day even though there's rights issues with the Tarble special, I believe. Still, at this point, even if they could receive dubs, from recent feedback, the fans don't give a crap about any of those specials. It's all about Super now and I'm almost certain Toei/Funimation reflect those sentiments. "We've got Super now! Who the hell cares about an old thirty-minute special from '08?! Besides, Toei won't let us dub it anyway so it all works out!"

Well, it just sucks because the '08 special was our first sampling of Dragon Ball returning one day (I think many fans forget that) and as a standalone story without setting up any gods and multiverse storylines - It's superb, in my opinion. Goten and Trunks actually have spotlight in it! Even though I do admit it's pointless to go back and dub it now, especially since it wouldn't be the same as if Funimation had done it before Super and the new movies were announced, I'M TIRED OF THE TARBLE MENTIONS WITHOUT AN OFFICIAL TARBLE DUB (outside of Raging Blast 2, which I love for the inclusion of OVA characters like Tarble and Hatchiyack, even if the former doesn't exactly warrant it).

I apologize for my sorta rant. I just somewhat miss the old days of DB before the new stuff and I always hoped the 2008 special most of all could've received a dub to bring back some of that nostalgia. As it is now, though, Funimation would possibly just throw in some meta humor based on the new stuff, which I would hate as the '08 special should stand alone.

FUNimation can't control it if the original script has Tarble references.

I'm pretty sure that there is a rights / legal reason why Yo! has never been dubbed, as well as timing, budgetary, and resources preventing it.

Who knows? Perhaps Toriyama will work Tarble into future DB stories, much like how Abo and Cado appeared in DBS: Broly in a cameo capacity.

It's too early to say it'll never happen, but it's too late to insinuate that folks don't know how it. There was also a line specifically in the special detailing that the reason it was not originally brought up in the anime and manga is because it happened too late in the real-world timeline. Or something.

According to Toriyama, the special has happened. According to Super, it hasn't. According to BoG and DBS: Broly - it has/will happen/ed

Honestly, I kind of doubt Tarble will ever be brought back as Cabba already fulfills that role and honestly, I don't care for it to ever happen. My main interest in the '08 special receiving a dub one day. However, I have to give up that hope because asking for a dub for those is the equivalent of asking for the old One Piece movies to receive dubs at this point. Why would Funimation go back and give the old One Piece movies a dub when Stampede is coming out? It's just not logical, so I accept that it will probably never happen for the '08 special. As of now, I'll just treasure Raging Blast 2 - a game that is somewhat an OVA love letter and a sampling of what could've been by having English dub actors for Tarble and Hatchiyack. The Hatchiyack special is also included in the game (not dubbed though), which is also an awesome bonus, even if it's easily available online now and in France dubbed.

So yeah, I'll accept the DB fanbase's desire to move forward with the franchise both in the dub and sub, not backwards.

I'll say this about the OVA. I believe FUNi wants to dub it, or at least Sabat would want to dub it. However, due to it being specifically commissioned for the Jump Super Anime Tour, it, for some reason, can't be properly licensed without sorting through rights stuff. I'm sure they wanna dub Episode of Bardock & Plan to Eradicate the Super Saiyans too, but simply can't due to Episode of Bardock being an OVA animated specifically for Jump Festa, and Plan to Eradicate the Super Saiyans being commissioned specifically for Raging Blast 2 (why they couldn't dub it while the game was in development, I'll never know, but whatever). Considering FUNi is slowly licensing a lot of the OVAs/specials for One Piece & dubbing them for US releases, they probably want to do the same with DB's, but aren't because it would either be too expensive, or time-costly. If they COULD, they'd probably release them in a 3-pack. For now, though, we'll have to be satisfied with TFS' parody dubs.

[KBABZ]

I just got back from seeing the movie! I haven't read the rest of the thread so apologies if I repeat anything. I'm not sure what the spoiler rules are around here so I've put everything in a spoiler tag for now.

Spoiler:

I thought the dub was pretty good. One detail that surprised me was the use of Battle Power over Power Levels, which was only not the case for one specific instance that felt like it was for old time's sake. This was the first DBZ/S movie that I've ever watched, so the structure was unique to me. Most western works will pepper in a few skirmishes before having a climax at the end. Broly on the other hand was more like "plotplotplotplotplotplotFIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIGHT", and I feel like this back-loading of all the combat worked against the movie's favour because the fight dragged on for a LONG time, to the point where the final third of it began to lose most of its meaning, impact and gravitas. A more traditional approach here would have helped a lot, because the final product feels like the main criticism thrown at The Simpsons Movie's story: it's an extended episode of the series, not a theatrical piece.

One thing I also didn't like was the lack of proper pacing in certain areas. The prologue is a section cited in the podcast episode, but honestly it was all over this movie. For example, when Frieza kills Paragus, not enough time is spent on Broly's emotional reaction. It's like they just wanted to skip that bit and move on to the awesome transformation instead, and it robs moments like these of their gravitas. Compare this to, say, Goku and Gohan going Super Saiyan 1/2, and there's more time spent on their reactions. It's something that affected Path to Power, and it's affected the Broly movie as well. Nobody would have complained if this movie was seven minutes longer so that we had more time to take in certain moments.

I also really didn't like the near-constant use of CG in the movie, because outside of characters, it made no effort to blend in with the traditionally animated stuff. I realize that CG is becoming increasingly common in anime these days, but that doesn't make it look any less disgusting when it is used, and used as a crutch for many action sequences. It was especially overzealous regarding Frieza-type ships and that big sequence with the green ball that blows up most of the ice environment late into the fight. I hate this stuff, and I'd take Yamamoto's modern art style over the use of CG any day.

I have to say, I really disagree with Vegetto and crew over the idea that it's confusing to have your villain be so sympathetic. I felt that it made the fight almost tragic; the fight doesn't need to happen at all if Paragus (and Vegeta) would just hang up their pride, and that Broly, due to his nature, can't control his fighting rage. As well, I think that the whole "hey shouldn't the fight be defused because of Paragus' death?" isn't an argument with any merit, because the film adequately provides a justification for it. Broly is fighting mindlessly and has lost sense of who or what he is, as Paragus points out. He can't help but continue the fight.

Fast scene cutting aside, I really liked the opening of the movie too. I've never been a hater of DB- but I've never read the work either, so being able to see Bardock and especially Gine (whose name is apparently not pronounced "Geen") was a real treat to see depicted on screen. Gine is now up there with Bulma, Caulifla, Videl an Android 18 as my favourite females in the franchise. It was nice to see some more of how the Saiyans lived on their homeworld too, with an interesting contrast between King Vegeta (the third's) palace and the slums where Bardock and Gine lived. Also neat to see the very opening scene with Frieza and King Cold: it actually gives a very plausible explanation behind why, in the Namek arc, we never saw King Cold in the first place (he retired!). And I liked the little hint towards the original Bardock special too with him firing a beam against Frieza's death ball. It wasn't exactly "fighting hordes of Frieza's men like the opening to DBZ Kai", but it was a great nod that shows he didn't go down slouching, and they even recreated his final shot in the special!

I also really liked Cheelai. I was worried that she and Lemo would only be bit-parts, so it was a wonderful surprise to see that they were actually very important and regular characters to the story. I can see them making return appearances with Broly in the future, which would be great. My favourite scene of the entire movie in fact was the scene with the two of them showing Broly water and Broly explaining where his green rag comes from. It was a great character moment and really helped deepen Broly's character and humanize him, making him relatable. I like this Broly a lot as a result of this specific scene.

The final scene of the movie was a fantastic surprise. In classic Goku fashion, Goku manages to befriend his most recent opponent, and it was so cool to see that he saw the good in Broly's heart and was nice to him. It's exactly what Broly needs as a person and I can see Goku being a firm friend of his in the future. I also audibly gasped when I saw the Capsule House, because (correct me if I'm wrong) it's the same model as the one used in the very second chapter of the manga. A very cool reference (speaking of which, not only was the duality between Bulma and Frieza hilarious, but Frieza's wish to be taller was a FANTASTIC callback to Commander Red's wish!).

I was however disappointed with the final "result" of this movie and the fight. Paragus dies, sure, but Frieza just blasts off saying he'll be back like it's an episode of GI Joe or Transformers. Broly is back on that awful rock planet, and no new special techniques were learned (unlike the last two films). With the exception of gaining Broly as an ally (and Goku gaining a great new motivation to continue training), the amount this film affects the overall ongoing story is incredibly minimal, which is the opposite of what Battle of Gods and (to a lesser extent) Resurrection F did.