If Super had THIS kind of animation, we would be living in an ideal world!

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Re: If Super had THIS kind of animation, we would be living in an ideal world!

Post by Saikyo no Senshi » Thu Dec 29, 2016 8:22 am

Ki Breaker wrote: Alright calm the hell down, no one is spitting on animators faces here, it looks bad to you not to others hence it's praised..
Not everyone is interested in animation details and most don't ever care, that being said, Yes, people have no fucking clue about animation, why are you getting so worked up about it..
If you understand that much educate them instead of raging..

When these videos are being praised It should be pretty obvious people enjoy On point art rather than having smooth animation with everyone with their very own styles to boot, even I understood this fact and I am not into animation at all..
What's funny is that a few people did try to tell them or as you said educate them, but guess what nobody listened. Typical YouTube. Now, why will I torture myself talking to people who don't want to listen. That video tries to give the illusion of 60fps and is interpolated like I said before.

The guy who made the video even himself said in the comments that the video is interpolated and still everybody went on with their praises and all anime should be like this YADA YADA. I apologize for my tone, but it is annoying. Just like misinformation about plot details like videos about Broli returning or something absurd bothers people, misinformation about animation also bothers people.

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Re: If Super had THIS kind of animation, we would be living in an ideal world!

Post by Ajay » Thu Dec 29, 2016 10:16 am

There's nothing to see here.

Koji Nashizawa animated the 2D (yes, that's all 2D outside of the obvious section at the end), with Yamamuro as the Chief AD. Both have worked on Super, but produced nothing of note. As others have said, there are far better animators on the show who have produced better work than this clip (66, anyone?!).

As a side-note: that One-Punch Man clip looks horrible with motion interpolation. There's a very good reason people tell you to turn that stuff off on your TVs.
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Post by TekTheNinja » Thu Dec 29, 2016 10:23 am

Really? I mean that one's pretty good, but when I think of really well animated OPM scenes the first ones that come to mind are the epic Saitama vs Boros or the sheer emotion in my personal favorite fight, Mumen Rider vs Sea King.
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Re: If Super had THIS kind of animation, we would be living in an ideal world!

Post by Ki Breaker » Thu Dec 29, 2016 10:28 am

TekTheNinja wrote:
Really? I mean that one's pretty good, but when I think of really well animated OPM scenes the first ones that come to mind are the epic Saitama vs Boros or the sheer emotion in my personal favorite fight, Mumen Rider vs Sea King.
I know, the boros fight wasn't uploaded in great quality on YouTube :)
That fight was oh my god level

Mumen rider vs sea king was very inspirational, the spirit he showed was praise Worthy
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Post by TekTheNinja » Thu Dec 29, 2016 10:40 am

Ki Breaker wrote:
TekTheNinja wrote:
Really? I mean that one's pretty good, but when I think of really well animated OPM scenes the first ones that come to mind are the epic Saitama vs Boros or the sheer emotion in my personal favorite fight, Mumen Rider vs Sea King.
I know, the boros fight wasn't uploaded in great quality on YouTube :)
That fight was oh my god level

Mumen rider vs sea king was very inspirational, the spirit he showed was praise Worthy
Then again, the Sea King fight's emotion is mostly conveyed by the soundtrack as well. That's another thing I think DBS could use. A better soundtrack and use of soundtrack. Sometimes it works great, but other times it sucks. (I'm looking at you, Omen of Victory)
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Re: If Super had THIS kind of animation, we would be living in an ideal world!

Post by Avok » Thu Dec 29, 2016 2:11 pm

What? That looks exactly like Super and every Dragon Ball material since BoG (the 2D part). Just that it is more on-model than some TV episodes.

I dont like it.

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Post by GodKaio-Ken » Thu Dec 29, 2016 5:42 pm

I hate CGI. Even in action movies. It looks so ridiculously fake to me.

Dont see the big deal about the OP link.
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Post by ChronoTwigger » Thu Dec 29, 2016 7:27 pm

I dunno how translate it, but in Italy we have a common tense...
if my gramma had wheels, she was a chariot
It's used to underline a what if, too much obvious statement.

While the chosen example probably was wrong, the concept "the toon x will benefit of greater y" it's always possible, but:
  • consider costs
    consider money returns
    consider they have a strict schedule
So people try, at least TRY, to love Super for what he does (or hate it for it) instead of living in the "what if" world (or at least try to convey those creative pulses to some of your products... became mangaka or writers!)
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Post by Xyex » Thu Dec 29, 2016 7:30 pm

The 2D animated scenes in Xenoverse 2 are decent, but nothing spectacular really. But the handful of 3D CGI scenes are EPIC and GORGEOUS. The scene with Bardock at the start and the short scene with Future Gohan and the Androids are just fantastic, and I wish we could get at least full movie or something with that kind of detail and awesomeness.

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Post by Alee9977 » Thu Dec 29, 2016 7:42 pm

The way I see it, there isn't a lot of difference with the art we see in DBS, also there is almost no animation. We have seen better art and animation in Super lol
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Re: If Super had THIS kind of animation, we would be living in an ideal world!

Post by Gafonso6 » Thu Dec 29, 2016 8:28 pm

Have you seen de Vegetto vs Zamasu fight. That animation is way better than the one that BARELY exists in that clip.
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Post by TekTheNinja » Fri Dec 30, 2016 12:41 am

GodKaio-Ken wrote:I hate CGI. Even in action movies. It looks so ridiculously fake to me.
Ya know I hear people say that, but usually what they really mean by that is, "I hate BAD CGI". Particularly in anime when people say that CG is bad, I point to things such as the CG in the Jojo's Bizarre Adventure openings. That CGI looks badass. Makes me almost wish the whole anime was CG.
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Re: If Super had THIS kind of animation, we would be living in an ideal world!

Post by kinisking » Fri Dec 30, 2016 1:25 am

I thought this was a joke thread so I ignored it but apparently OP is serious? Or is he keeping up with the joke?
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Post by Ki Breaker » Fri Dec 30, 2016 1:37 am

kinisking wrote:I thought this was a joke thread so I ignored it but apparently OP is serious? Or is he keeping up with the joke?
OP seems pretty serious
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Post by iAnimationLover_ » Fri Dec 30, 2016 1:53 am

Ki Breaker wrote:
kinisking wrote:I thought this was a joke thread so I ignored it but apparently OP is serious? Or is he keeping up with the joke?
OP seems pretty serious

its actually pretty funny

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Post by iAnimationLover_ » Tue Jan 03, 2017 8:21 am

iAnimationLover_ wrote:
Ki Breaker wrote:
kinisking wrote:I thought this was a joke thread so I ignored it but apparently OP is serious? Or is he keeping up with the joke?
OP seems pretty serious

its actually pretty funny

I thought you were talking about OPM not one piece sorry xD

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Re: If Super had THIS kind of animation, we would be living in an ideal world!

Post by kinisking » Tue Jan 03, 2017 10:23 am

iAnimationLover_ wrote:
iAnimationLover_ wrote:
Ki Breaker wrote: OP seems pretty serious

its actually pretty funny

I thought you were talking about OPM not one piece sorry xD
We're not talking about either OP is a term to describe the person who started a thread. I think it means original poster.
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Re: If Super had THIS kind of animation, we would be living in an ideal world!

Post by iAnimationLover_ » Tue Jan 03, 2017 10:28 am

kinisking wrote:
iAnimationLover_ wrote:
iAnimationLover_ wrote:

its actually pretty funny

I thought you were talking about OPM not one piece sorry xD
We're not talking about either OP is a term to describe the person who started a thread. I think it means original poster.

Oh, I Didnt know that. My bad!

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