Dragon Ball Super USA Adult Swim and Toonami Ratings

[bleed0range]

Good Night for DBS!

I don't see why there's so much pessimism in this thread for DBS ratings? Although it fluctuates, it's still consistently one of the highest rated shows in the lineup.

[Cure Dragon 255]

I know right? Not even CN itself is able to pull these kind of numbers!

[TheMikado]

Question, has anyone seen the late evening showing for Super? I see the 8PM show is in the top 150 programs for Saturday 18th and even Kai, but not the later show.

[Baggie_Saiyan]

TIME PROGRAM HH Viewers (000) A1849 rating A1849 (000)
8:00 Dragon Ball Super 0.52 874 0.33 421
8:30 Samurai Jack (r) 0.41 667 0.26 335
9:00 American Dad (r) 0.49 718 0.30 379
9:30 Rick & Morty (r) 0.53 818 0.36 459
10:00 Rick & Morty (r) 0.66 1005 0.48 615
10:30 Family Guy (r) 0.79 1221 0.54 695
11:00 Family Guy (r) 1564 0.72 921

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TIME PROGRAM Viewers (000) A1849 rating A1849 (000)
11:30 Dragon Ball Super 1233 0.60 765
12:00a Dragon Ball Z Kai: The Final Chapters 1130 0.52 665
12:30a JoJo’s Bizarre Adventure 897 0.42 540
1:00a Mobile Suit Gundam Unicorn 787 0.37 472
1:30a Hunter X Hunter 683 0.31 392
2:00a Naruto: Shippuden 671 0.29 376
2:30a One Piece 597 0.27 345
3:00a Ghost in the Shell (r) 530 0.27 347

I still don't know how to interpret these...

[TheMikado]

I'm looking for the 18th, those are from the 11th.

[Lord Beerus]

TIME PROGRAM HH Viewers (000) A1849 rating A1849 (000)
8:00 Dragon Ball Super 0.52 874 0.33 421
8:30 Samurai Jack (r) 0.41 667 0.26 335
9:00 American Dad (r) 0.49 718 0.30 379
9:30 Rick & Morty (r) 0.53 818 0.36 459
10:00 Rick & Morty (r) 0.66 1005 0.48 615
10:30 Family Guy (r) 0.79 1221 0.54 695
11:00 Family Guy (r) 1564 0.72 921

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TIME PROGRAM Viewers (000) A1849 rating A1849 (000)
11:30 Dragon Ball Super 1233 0.60 765
12:00a Dragon Ball Z Kai: The Final Chapters 1130 0.52 665
12:30a JoJo’s Bizarre Adventure 897 0.42 540
1:00a Mobile Suit Gundam Unicorn 787 0.37 472
1:30a Hunter X Hunter 683 0.31 392
2:00a Naruto: Shippuden 671 0.29 376
2:30a One Piece 597 0.27 345
3:00a Ghost in the Shell (r) 530 0.27 347

I still don't know how to interpret these...

TIME - The time the program will be shown
PROGRAM - Well, that's pretty self explanatory
Viewers (000) - The total numbers of households who watched the show
A1849 rating - The ratings the show did with the adult demographic of 18-49
A1849 (000) - The number of households the show retained that have a viewer demographic of 18-49

For example, Dragon Ball Super at 11:30 was watched in 1,233,000 households. Of those households, 765,000 of them were in the demographic of 18-49, which is also represented in the rating 0.60.

[Baggie_Saiyan]

TIME PROGRAM HH Viewers (000) A1849 rating A1849 (000)
8:00 Dragon Ball Super 0.52 874 0.33 421
8:30 Samurai Jack (r) 0.41 667 0.26 335
9:00 American Dad (r) 0.49 718 0.30 379
9:30 Rick & Morty (r) 0.53 818 0.36 459
10:00 Rick & Morty (r) 0.66 1005 0.48 615
10:30 Family Guy (r) 0.79 1221 0.54 695
11:00 Family Guy (r) 1564 0.72 921

===

TIME PROGRAM Viewers (000) A1849 rating A1849 (000)
11:30 Dragon Ball Super 1233 0.60 765
12:00a Dragon Ball Z Kai: The Final Chapters 1130 0.52 665
12:30a JoJo’s Bizarre Adventure 897 0.42 540
1:00a Mobile Suit Gundam Unicorn 787 0.37 472
1:30a Hunter X Hunter 683 0.31 392
2:00a Naruto: Shippuden 671 0.29 376
2:30a One Piece 597 0.27 345
3:00a Ghost in the Shell (r) 530 0.27 347

I still don't know how to interpret these...

TIME - The time the program will be shown
PROGRAM - Well, that's pretty self explanatory
Viewers (000) - The total numbers of households who watched the show
A1849 rating - The ratings the show did with the adult demographic of 18-49
A1849 (000) - The number of households the show retained that have a viewer demographic of 18-49

For example, Dragon Ball Super at 11:30 was watched in 1,233,000 households. Of those households, 765,000 of them were in the demographic of 18-49, which is also represented in the rating 0.60.

Thank you!!

[TheMikado]

Good Night for DBS!

I don't see why there's so much pessimism in this thread for DBS ratings? Although it fluctuates, it's still consistently one of the highest rated shows in the lineup.

I think it comes from the fact it is sometimes trending lower than back to back reruns of American Dad, Family Guy, and Bobs Burger. Despite being a brand new show in the 8PM primetime slot and likely costing a ton in licensing fees vs those others. The (r) indicates rerun I believe. Anyway the late night is much stronger than I would have guessed but makes sense given the those who are interested in late night toonami would probably show an interest in Dragonball.

[Cure Dragon 255]

Those are mainstream smash hits. I know I've always said Dragon Ball is mainstream but those shows are moreso.

[SaiyanGod117]

Those are mainstream smash hits. I know I've always said Dragon Ball is mainstream but those shows are moreso.

That and the dub is behind like 73 episodes.

[OLKv3]

Those are mainstream smash hits. I know I've always said Dragon Ball is mainstream but those shows are moreso.

That and the dub is behind like 73 episodes.

This is the main reason. Most people have already seen it. CR is now casual, it's not a hardcore only thing. We're in the age where everything is digital

[TheMikado]

Those are mainstream smash hits. I know I've always said Dragon Ball is mainstream but those shows are moreso.

That and the dub is behind like 73 episodes.

This is the main reason. Most people have already seen it. CR is now casual, it's not a hardcore only thing. We're in the age where everything is digital

This isn't the only forum I visit and trust me this isn't th case at all. The amount of "fans" willing to watch DB subbed that liked the original DBZ is only a fraction of the entire fan base of DBZ, in fact there are large portions that say they like falucnor and funimation original dub.
I don't think calling American Dad or Bobs Burger reruns smash hits compared to a brand new Dragonball series from the original creator is even a comparison they shouldn't even be in the same ballpark. I plan on composing a thread of American reactions to Super but I'm waiting for the latest numbers to give a full story.

[kinisking]

That and the dub is behind like 73 episodes.

This is the main reason. Most people have already seen it. CR is now casual, it's not a hardcore only thing. We're in the age where everything is digital

This isn't the only forum I visit and trust me this isn't th case at all. The amount of "fans" willing to watch DB subbed that liked the original DBZ is only a fraction of the entire fan base of DBZ, in fact there are large portions that say they like falucnor and funimation original dub.
I don't think calling American Dad or Bobs Burger reruns smash hits compared to a brand new Dragonball series from the original creator is even a comparison they shouldn't even be in the same ballpark. I plan on composing a thread of American reactions to Super but I'm waiting for the latest numbers to give a full story.

Is there any proof about your statement of only a few fans being willing to watch the sub ? That sounds like made up bull shit to me. They'res tons of people who prefer the dub, but many were willing to watch the sub anyways even if they didn't like it. Heck, I've read tons of stories from people that hated the sub but like it now because of super. I also know many friends that watch super in Japanese even though they're not anime or sub fans.

Not to mention that the episodes airing are pretty much reruns themselves and they've gotten an overly negative reputation.


I think you're just looking for any reason to say western fans hate Dragonball super which clearly isn't the case. The fact of the matter is that it's destroying other anime.

[TheMikado]

which clearly isn't the case. The fact of the matter is that it's destroying other anime.

And this is based on what exactly?? Because I'm simply looking at the same channel during a comparable time slot. We have a brand new show from one of the largest entertainment franchises ever in anime or any animated media and that airs at 8PM and 1130PM agains reruns of older shows. Look I'm not here to talk hyperbole and how "awful" or "amazing" it's doing. I'm just looking for straight up facts and comparing it to other shows on the same channel around similar time slots or even just comparing Super to Kai.

[Lord Beerus]

TIME PROGRAM HH Viewers (000) A1849 rating A1849 (000)
8:00 Dragon Ball Super 0.57 938 0.35 444
8:30 Samurai Jack (r) 0.40 634 0.24 308
9:00 American Dad (r) 0.45 702 0.30 390
9:30 Rick & Morty (r) 0.50 767 0.38 488
10:00 Rick & Morty (r) 0.56 842 0.43 554
10:30 Family Guy (r) 0.71 1063 0.48 616
11:00 Family Guy (r) 1427 0.64 825

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TIME PROGRAM Viewers (000) A1849 rating A1849 (000)
11:30 Dragon Ball Super 1140 0.56 716
12:00a Dragon Ball Z Kai: The Final Chapters 1003 0.49 634
12:30a JoJo’s Bizarre Adventure 769 0.37 480
1:00a Mobile Suit Gundam Unicorn 618 0.31 401
1:30a Hunter X Hunter 625 0.33 424
2:00a Naruto: Shippuden 621 0.31 402
2:30a One Piece 525 0.27 342
3:00a Ghost in the Shell (r) 453 0.23 291

[Theophrastus]

I can't tell if Jojo is hurting both Gundam and Hunter x Hunter, or if it's just Gundam hurting HxH.

[HeroR]

Is there any proof about your statement of only a few fans being willing to watch the sub ? That sounds like made up bull shit to me. They'res tons of people who prefer the dub, but many were willing to watch the sub anyways even if they didn't like it. Heck, I've read tons of stories from people that hated the sub but like it now because of super. I also know many friends that watch super in Japanese even though they're not anime or sub fans.

Not to mention that the episodes airing are pretty much reruns themselves and they've gotten an overly negative reputation.


I think you're just looking for any reason to say western fans hate Dragonball super which clearly isn't the case. The fact of the matter is that it's destroying other anime.

The retellings only got a overall negative rating by hardcore fans. Most casual fans enjoyed the retellings for the most part and a lot of people on Toonami never saw the movies since they never got a broadcast released.

Overall, these are very good ratings.

[TheMikado]

Is there any proof about your statement of only a few fans being willing to watch the sub ? That sounds like made up bull shit to me. They'res tons of people who prefer the dub, but many were willing to watch the sub anyways even if they didn't like it. Heck, I've read tons of stories from people that hated the sub but like it now because of super. I also know many friends that watch super in Japanese even though they're not anime or sub fans.

Not to mention that the episodes airing are pretty much reruns themselves and they've gotten an overly negative reputation.


I think you're just looking for any reason to say western fans hate Dragonball super which clearly isn't the case. The fact of the matter is that it's destroying other anime.

The retellings only got a overall negative rating by hardcore fans. Most casual fans enjoyed the retellings for the most part and a lot of people on Toonami never saw the movies since they never got a broadcast released.

Overall, these are very good ratings.

Exactly, we can't assume much about Toonami fan-base, but I think its fair to say a significant part of the audience may not be actively watching the subbed DB Super.
As far as the ratings being very good.. Dragonball is perhaps the largest animated franchise of all time, it eclipses pretty much any single animated franchise in existence with a completely brand new series that hasn't existed in decades.
I expect it to do much better than say Bob's Burger or Rick & Morty reruns with an 8PM time slot. I not saying 10x larger audience, but I was expecting a bit more. Knowing the licenses for syndication of these other properties is dirt cheap I wonder how much Toonami is actually making on airing Super rather than a cheaper IP.

[dragonballgeek]

This is the main reason. Most people have already seen it. CR is now casual, it's not a hardcore only thing. We're in the age where everything is digital

This isn't the only forum I visit and trust me this isn't th case at all. The amount of "fans" willing to watch DB subbed that liked the original DBZ is only a fraction of the entire fan base of DBZ, in fact there are large portions that say they like falucnor and funimation original dub.
I don't think calling American Dad or Bobs Burger reruns smash hits compared to a brand new Dragonball series from the original creator is even a comparison they shouldn't even be in the same ballpark. I plan on composing a thread of American reactions to Super but I'm waiting for the latest numbers to give a full story.

Is there any proof about your statement of only a few fans being willing to watch the sub ? That sounds like made up bull shit to me. They'res tons of people who prefer the dub, but many were willing to watch the sub anyways even if they didn't like it. Heck, I've read tons of stories from people that hated the sub but like it now because of super. I also know many friends that watch super in Japanese even though they're not anime or sub fans.

Not to mention that the episodes airing are pretty much reruns themselves and they've gotten an overly negative reputation.


I think you're just looking for any reason to say western fans hate Dragonball super which clearly isn't the case. The fact of the matter is that it's destroying other anime.

It's not made up. It's something I've been wondering about for a long time.


What you people don't see is not everyone is into Subtitles like you guys. You put yourselves on a pedestal because you watch it in its purist version. I'm one of those people who'd much rather watch the English dub. I just happen to also to be impatient, so I'm not willing to wait for the dub to catch up. While I enjoy watching the sub, I'll always choose the English over Japanese when it comes to Dragon Ball.

There are a lot of people who are in the same boat as me. Some even refusing to watch the Japanese just because of Gokus voice. That's fine. But that doesn't give you all the right to be condescending assuming that everyone is willing to watch subs. To be honest I'd do the same if English was 10 episodes behind or something.

[kinisking]

This isn't the only forum I visit and trust me this isn't th case at all. The amount of "fans" willing to watch DB subbed that liked the original DBZ is only a fraction of the entire fan base of DBZ, in fact there are large portions that say they like falucnor and funimation original dub.
I don't think calling American Dad or Bobs Burger reruns smash hits compared to a brand new Dragonball series from the original creator is even a comparison they shouldn't even be in the same ballpark. I plan on composing a thread of American reactions to Super but I'm waiting for the latest numbers to give a full story.

Is there any proof about your statement of only a few fans being willing to watch the sub ? That sounds like made up bull shit to me. They'res tons of people who prefer the dub, but many were willing to watch the sub anyways even if they didn't like it. Heck, I've read tons of stories from people that hated the sub but like it now because of super. I also know many friends that watch super in Japanese even though they're not anime or sub fans.

Not to mention that the episodes airing are pretty much reruns themselves and they've gotten an overly negative reputation.


I think you're just looking for any reason to say western fans hate Dragonball super which clearly isn't the case. The fact of the matter is that it's destroying other anime.

It's not made up. It's something I've been wondering about for a long time.


What you people don't see is not everyone is into Subtitles like you guys. You put yourselves on a pedestal because you watch it in its purist version. I'm one of those people who'd much rather watch the English dub. I just happen to also to be impatient, so I'm not willing to wait for the dub to catch up. While I enjoy watching the sub, I'll always choose the English over Japanese when it comes to Dragon Ball.

There are a lot of people who are in the same boat as me. Some even refusing to watch the Japanese just because of Gokus voice. That's fine. But that doesn't give you all the right to be condescending assuming that everyone is willing to watch subs. To be honest I'd do the same if English was 10 episodes behind or something.

First of all, I personally prefer the English dub. So this whole pedestal thing that you're talking about means nothing to me.

Second of all, I'm not assuming everyone is willing to watch the subs. I'm saying that it's bull shit to say only a fraction of the fanbase would watch the subs. I know that a lot of people like me and you are watching the subs regardless of their preference.