The New Gods of the Universe Survival Arc Discussion Thread

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Post by Octorockandroll » Fri Feb 17, 2017 2:14 pm

DragonBallFoodie wrote:Thank you Octorockandroll. That was helpful.


Now to see who the Angels are and their names.
My pleasure. As for the angels, I think Universe 11's angel is going to be called "Pudding" or some japanisation of the word because she's clearly a sendoff to Harley Quinn and she could be referencing pudding shots.
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Post by Baggie_Saiyan » Fri Feb 17, 2017 2:39 pm

So does this mean Liqeuer is the strongest?

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Post by Olivier Hague » Fri Feb 17, 2017 2:49 pm

Quick post because I personally disagree with some of the theories I see here and there regarding the pun names:

1st Universe: "Iwan", probably from "wine"
2nd Universe: "Heresu", probably from "Helles"
3rd Universe: "Mosuko", probably from "cosmo"
4th Universe: "Kitera", probably from "tequila"
5th Universe: "Araku", probably from "arak" / "araq"
6th Universe: "Shanpa", probably from "Champagne"
7th Universe: "Bīrusu", from "virus"... but Toriyama thought it was from "beer"
8th Universe: "Rikīru", probably from "liqueur"
9th Universe: "Shidora", probably from "sidra" (cider)
10th Universe: "Ramūshi", probably from "rum-shu" (rum)
11th Universe: "Berumoddo", probably from "Wermut" (vermouth)
12th Universe: "Jīn", probably from "gin"

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Post by Octorockandroll » Fri Feb 17, 2017 2:53 pm

Olivier Hague wrote:Quick post because I personally disagree with some of the theories I see here and there regarding the pun names:

1st Universe: "Iwan", probably from "wine"
2nd Universe: "Heresu", probably from "Helles"
3rd Universe: "Mosuko", probably from "cosmo"
4th Universe: "Kitera", probably from "tequila"
5th Universe: "Araku", probably from "arak" / "araq"
6th Universe: "Shanpa", probably from "Champagne"
7th Universe: "Bīrusu", from "virus"... but Toriyama thought it was from "beer"
8th Universe: "Rikīru", probably from "liqueur"
9th Universe: "Shidora", probably from "sidra" (cider)
10th Universe: "Ramūshi", probably from "rum-shu" (rum)
11th Universe: "Berumoddo", probably from "Wermut" (vermouth)
12th Universe: "Jīn", probably from "gin"
Okay I see your point with most of these but how the heck do you look at "Mosuko" and get "Cosmopolitan"?
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Post by NeoKING » Fri Feb 17, 2017 3:04 pm

Octorockandroll wrote: Okay I see your point with most of these but how the heck do you look at "Mosuko" and get "Cosmopolitan"?
Mosuko is "Cosmo" backwards in Japanese. Mo-su-ko. Ko-su-mo = Cosmo.

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Post by Octorockandroll » Fri Feb 17, 2017 3:10 pm

NeoKING wrote:
Octorockandroll wrote: Okay I see your point with most of these but how the heck do you look at "Mosuko" and get "Cosmopolitan"?
Mosuko is "Cosmo" backwards in Japanese. Mo-su-ko. Ko-su-mo = Cosmo.
Hmm... Still seems like a stretch, being a rearrangement of an abbreviation and all but maybe. I just find it a bit weird that it shares the name of a popular japanese hair product line but I suppose that could just be coincidence.
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Post by Olivier Hague » Fri Feb 17, 2017 3:18 pm

Octorockandroll wrote:Hmm... Still seems like a stretch, being a rearrangement of an abbreviation and all but maybe.
A fairly common abbreviation, even in Japan. And of course, rearrangements like that are common place in Dragon Ball (like "Iwan"/"wine" and "Kitera"/"tequila", in that list alone).
I just find it a bit weird that it shares the name of a popular japanese hair product line
It's an adjective.
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Post by Octorockandroll » Fri Feb 17, 2017 3:25 pm

Olivier Hague wrote:
Octorockandroll wrote:Hmm... Still seems like a stretch, being a rearrangement of an abbreviation and all but maybe.
A fairly common abbreviation, even in Japan. And of course, rearrangements like that are common place in Dragon Ball (like "Iwan"/"wine" and "Kitera"/"tequila", in that list alone).
I've never heard anyone abbreviate "cosmopolitan" into "cosmo" but if its common in Japan I suppose that would make sense.
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Post by DBS916 » Fri Feb 17, 2017 3:27 pm

Octorockandroll wrote:
Olivier Hague wrote:
Octorockandroll wrote:Hmm... Still seems like a stretch, being a rearrangement of an abbreviation and all but maybe.
A fairly common abbreviation, even in Japan. And of course, rearrangements like that are common place in Dragon Ball (like "Iwan"/"wine" and "Kitera"/"tequila", in that list alone).
I've never heard anyone abbreviate "cosmopolitan" into "cosmo" but if its common in Japan I suppose that would make sense.
I've heard people do it before since it's common in the states.

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Post by Olivier Hague » Fri Feb 17, 2017 3:30 pm

Octorockandroll wrote:I've never heard anyone abbreviate "cosmopolitan" into "cosmo" but if its common in Japan I suppose that would make sense.
Just to be clear, my problem was mainly with the Youtube video linked above (as well as some other posts elsewhere).
I think your theory for that particular name could work, too. But personally, I'd rather go with the "cosmo" pun, as the rearrangement seems fairly "Dragon Ball-ish" to me, compared to the shortening of "Moscow Mule"... That, and I'm more familiar with that cocktail, I guess. :P

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Post by Bullza » Fri Feb 17, 2017 3:35 pm

Has Herms clarified what all the names are? I'm seeing different ones so I don't know what the actual proper names are.

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Post by The gr » Fri Feb 17, 2017 4:00 pm

Toyotaro you magnificent bastardImage ImageWasn't Luud called a "God of Destruction" in GT? If so That's a pretty clever Easter Egg by Toyotaro and it just proves that toyotaro is a huge fanboy
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Post by Draconic » Fri Feb 17, 2017 4:29 pm

I love how the pun for U10's God works.

On one hand, it's carrying the pun of alcholic breverages we expected, based on rum. In japanese rum is spelled rumu-shu.
Also, as you probably knew already, Ganesha's name can be also spelled as Ganesh. In japanese that would be Ganeshu. Rumu-shu is the closest drink name to that.

I think it's pretty cool and too much to be a coincidence.
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Post by Chuquita » Fri Feb 17, 2017 4:37 pm

I like Toyotarou's redesign for Uni 3's so much better than the "giant baby" design of GT Luud.
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Post by Lord Frieza » Fri Feb 17, 2017 5:37 pm

Rumoosh's hand look so weird. It's like a human hand with elephant toe nails sticking out of the fingers.

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Post by Hellspawn28 » Fri Feb 17, 2017 6:33 pm

U1's design is my last favorite because it feels kinda lazy. However I love the rest of the GoD designs and U12 is probably my favorite out of the 12 GoDs.
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Post by DBS916 » Fri Feb 17, 2017 7:00 pm

Hellspawn28 wrote:U1's design is my last favorite because it feels kinda lazy. However I love the rest of the GoD designs and U12 is probably my favorite out of the 12 GoDs.
It's okay. I do agree it feels lazy because it's basically a furball of destruction.

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Post by Hellspawn28 » Fri Feb 17, 2017 7:08 pm

What designs did you wanted to see for the other Gods of Destruction, but didn't happen. I think a Tiki GoD or a Hawaiian theme type of God would have been cool.
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Post by Esfír Dedragón » Fri Feb 17, 2017 7:40 pm

I'm disappointed in finding out that not all of the Gods of Destructions were designed by Toriyama.

It sort of makes them seem "less legitimate", in my eyes. :/
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