Do you want Goku to get punished at the end of Universe Tournament act?

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Re: Do you want Goku to get punished at the end of Universe Tournament act?

Post by HeroR » Tue Feb 14, 2017 7:29 pm

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Lord Beerus wrote:To a degree, yes. But not a severe punishment. Like, maybe disable his ability to utilise ki for a week. I mean, coming up for a punishment for a guy like Goku is very difficult to even begin with.
No eating for a week sounds like a good punishment for him.
Given that he's a Saiyan, that could possibly kill him.
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Goku barely took a backseat in the Buu saga, at best he took a leisurely stroll round back while everyone else cried for him to come back.

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Re: Do you want Goku to get punished at the end of Universe Tournament act?

Post by BlueBasilisk » Tue Feb 14, 2017 8:05 pm

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BlueBasilisk wrote:After Frieza, the ruler of space, they went to two teenage hooligans who wanted revenge on Goku and a bug from the future.
Who were stronger than Freeza and who gave them more trouble then he ever could.
They were stronger yes, but the overall scale of their threat was much smaller. Frieza terrorized the galaxy for more than 20 years. Even in the future timeline, the Androids remained on Earth. Cell could have been a cosmic threat but he was killed before that. But the Androids and Cell were specifically out to kill Goku and his friends, whereas they just had the bad luck of crossing paths with Frieza over the dragon balls. As long as the heroes have something at stake, I think a smaller scope arc would work just fine.

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Re: Do you want Goku to get punished at the end of Universe Tournament act?

Post by Booze Sama » Wed Feb 15, 2017 3:15 am

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Booze Sama wrote:What I'm interested in is who the next 'big bad' will be since Goku will become the undisputed Universal Champion, having fought the entire multiverse's cream of the crop.

Goku didn't even beat hit. It was more like a draw. So I doubt Goku will be the "undisputed champion".... that's ridiculous.
Hit is weaker than Goku, he's just got superior techniques that trump brute strength. Without his techniques, he's toast and Goku continues to best him every fight. Goku was the undisputed champ in U7 after defeating Buu, and he will reign supreme in this arc too.

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Re: Do you want Goku to get punished at the end of Universe Tournament act?

Post by Booze Sama » Wed Feb 15, 2017 3:19 am

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Lord Beerus wrote: It can be someone stronger. look at Black and Zamasu, they'd never take part in a torunament yet they're among the strongest villains so they could come up with countless new stronger villains.
But they didn't. Black is Zamasu in Goku's body and Zamasu is just an immortal whose a weakling.

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Re: Do you want Goku to get punished at the end of Universe Tournament act?

Post by Chuquita » Wed Feb 15, 2017 3:22 am

I want him to get punished, but knowing the super dbs are a prize, they'll probably just use them to fix whatever the Omni Kings destroy and no one will see the point in punishing him then.
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Re: Do you want Goku to get punished at the end of Universe Tournament act?

Post by Nejishiki » Wed Feb 15, 2017 5:34 am

SsjCookie wrote:Whis already pointed out his weakness in battle and that is his overconfidence, I'm pretty sure it will bite him in the ass eventually. :twisted:
So yeah, I do want him to get some sort of punishment for his irresponsible and selfish actions.
Goku's flaw was exploited in the same story Whis referenced it. That was one of the setups Resurrection F (film & arc) built.

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Re: Do you want Goku to get punished at the end of Universe Tournament act?

Post by omaro34 » Wed Feb 15, 2017 11:29 am

Lord Beerus wrote:To a degree, yes. But not a severe punishment. Like, maybe disable his ability to utilise ki for a week. I mean, coming up for a punishment for a guy like Goku is very difficult to even begin with.
He can't cook to save his life, just have nobody could for him for a while.
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Re: Do you want Goku to get punished at the end of Universe Tournament act?

Post by Ki Breaker » Wed Feb 15, 2017 11:34 am

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Lord Beerus wrote:To a degree, yes. But not a severe punishment. Like, maybe disable his ability to utilise ki for a week. I mean, coming up for a punishment for a guy like Goku is very difficult to even begin with.
He can't cook to save his life, just have nobody could for him for a while.
Dude lived alone his childhood, he can survive just fine
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Re: Do you want Goku to get punished at the end of Universe Tournament act?

Post by omaro34 » Wed Feb 15, 2017 12:08 pm

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omaro34 wrote:
Lord Beerus wrote:To a degree, yes. But not a severe punishment. Like, maybe disable his ability to utilise ki for a week. I mean, coming up for a punishment for a guy like Goku is very difficult to even begin with.
He can't cook to save his life, just have nobody could for him for a while.
Dude lived alone his childhood, he can survive just fine
Yeah he could survive no question about it but after living with Chi-Chi's cooking for so many years I can imagine him not having any cooking all of a sudden would be a good punishment.

Remember when him and Gohan went to the ROSAT? When they came out they were starved and had were dying for a home cooked meal.
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Re: Do you want Goku to get punished at the end of Universe Tournament act?

Post by Ki Breaker » Wed Feb 15, 2017 12:27 pm

omaro34 wrote:
Ki Breaker wrote:
omaro34 wrote:
He can't cook to save his life, just have nobody could for him for a while.
Dude lived alone his childhood, he can survive just fine
Yeah he could survive no question about it but after living with Chi-Chi's cooking for so many years I can imagine him not having any cooking all of a sudden would be a good punishment.

Remember when him and Gohan went to the ROSAT? When they came out they were starved and had were dying for a home cooked meal.
Yeah, that scene slipped my mind, he would still be able to survive though, for many many years
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Re: Do you want Goku to get punished at the end of Universe Tournament act?

Post by HeroR » Wed Feb 15, 2017 12:36 pm

omaro34 wrote:
Yeah he could survive no question about it but after living with Chi-Chi's cooking for so many years I can imagine him not having any cooking all of a sudden would be a good punishment.

Remember when him and Gohan went to the ROSAT? When they came out they were starved and had were dying for a home cooked meal.
Goku spent three years with Vegeta without a home cook meal. Vegeta was the one drooling over Chi-Chi's grill, while Goku calmly ate.
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precita wrote:Goku will still be around but take a Buu saga approach backseat.
Goku barely took a backseat in the Buu saga, at best he took a leisurely stroll round back while everyone else cried for him to come back.

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Re: Do you want Goku to get punished at the end of Universe Tournament act?

Post by TysonWine » Wed Feb 15, 2017 1:40 pm

sintzu wrote:
BlueBasilisk wrote:After Frieza, the ruler of space, they went to two teenage hooligans who wanted revenge on Goku and a bug from the future.
Who were stronger than Freeza and who gave them more trouble then he ever could.
Can you explain, "gave them more trouble then he ever could." As the heroes get stronger, obviously the villains get stronger or you have no story. That's very simple logic that can be summed up as the next threat always being the biggest threat. If you're going to use that logic, Frieza gave them more trouble by being the latest threat and being immeasurably stronger with his golden form. Not to mention, he destroyed the earth and survived, with the heroes needing to rewind time to win. However, I think it's deeper than that, with respect to time frame, character personalities, and motivation.

Strictly speaking of the Frieza saga, Frieza spent years as ruler of the universe. There was never a question of what he was willing to do because he was already doing it. He's already destroyed many planets and billions of lives. He enslaved the strongest race that could oppose him. His manpower allowed him to spread his influence without lifting a finger. Frieza's resume makes him a universal threat before the first time he even appears on screen. No amount of selfishness or ignorance on Goku or Vegeta's part led to Frieza becoming what he was, and there was no hyperbolic time chamber on Namek for them to use as a crutch to increase strength.

Frieza's not a martial artist, nor does he seek a challenge. He seeks domination. He planned on killing everyone on Namek that challenged him. He wasn't letting anyone live for the thrill of fighting them again. Super Saiyan was the only hope. There was no time to get stronger.

Also, Frieza was seeking immortality, and with the Dragonballs, that goal wasn't too farfetched. Gohan and Krillin had to find the Dragonballs first, and Frieza was so much of a problem they had to teamup with Vegeta to survive.

How in the world did the androids and Cell cause more trouble?

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Re: Do you want Goku to get punished at the end of Universe Tournament act?

Post by Cure Dragon 255 » Fri Feb 17, 2017 2:02 pm

Are you saying Goku gets punished?. Uh oh. You know what that means! Making a shitty GoAnimate video!

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Re: Do you want Goku to get punished at the end of Universe Tournament act?

Post by FoolsGil » Fri Feb 17, 2017 2:23 pm

He deserves at the least a punch in the face, and from someone who can actually hurt him, not Bulma or Chi Chi.

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Re: Do you want Goku to get punished at the end of Universe Tournament act?

Post by Ki Breaker » Fri Feb 17, 2017 2:27 pm

FoolsGil wrote:He deserves at the least a punch in the face, and from someone who can actually hurt him, not Bulma or Chi Chi.
Berrus punched his chest when he got back and he was in considerable pain ( but super had to rush through that too, so most probably missed it )
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Re: Do you want Goku to get punished at the end of Universe Tournament act?

Post by Arg » Fri Feb 17, 2017 5:46 pm

Disabling his god Ki is one option (would also make for a retcon with GT in case they decided to continue super after the events of omega shenron ), only to introduce a new situation where the Gods decide to let enable Goku's God ki again, in order to do some labor for them (perhaps an alternate dimension suicide mission). This would open up the possibility of a SSJGSS4.

I also expect his interference with the future timeline (future Zeno not evidence enough?) to somewhat be considered. Ultimately, they could do a universal prison arc.

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Re: Do you want Goku to get punished at the end of Universe Tournament act?

Post by dbgtFO » Fri Feb 17, 2017 6:37 pm

Yes, no bacon for a month!
That'll teach him :twisted:

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