Again, hype and praise for Super is as high as it's ever been. Them changing their formula to have the pacing slow down, new filter, better art, better animation, etc. is not leading to people being less interested in the show, but rather the complete opposite.Zagacious wrote:And I gave reasoning that you left out. Honestly what did we get out of that span of episodes aside from the decent 17 episode? As I mentioned the quality went up drastically by episode 90, so it's not really an issue any more, but I don't see any reason to watch them a second time, nothing new was introduced about said characters they chose to spend entire episodes on pre-90.Asura wrote:Geez, you make it sound like they're the worst episodes ever that people must skip.Zagacious wrote:84-89 just feel like a waste, something people would probably skip entirely watching the second time around
This arc so far has gotten a lot more praise from people than any before it, I highly doubt any of these episodes are so bad they're worth skipping, even during a second watch.
When someone says the pacing is too slow, they are not talking about specific episode count. The episode span I posted is doing the extreme opposite of what you said, cramming in as little content as possible into an episode, which is far worse than an episode having too much content to fully grasp in one watching. It shouldn't be the norm to finish an episode and feel 'that's it?', maybe a few episodes here and there, but when it starts to feel that way every time it can cause people to lose interest, as well as greatly affecting the anticipation for the tournament.Asura wrote:So if Super's pacing is too slow for you, just exactly how fast do you want things to be? Should the BoG arc be 7 episodes instead of 14? Should the Universal Survival arc also be 20 episodes like FT was? How would you even cram an entire universal tournament with tons of new characters in to 20 episodes?
Taking it slow and steady only further helps flesh the story and characters out. There's no benefit to be found in rushing and cramming everything into as little episodes as humanly possible..
Kanzenshuu is honestly the only place where I've heard people voice their complaints about the pacing being too slow. Everywhere else I look, people are very excited to see more world-building, new characters, seeing the recruitment episodes, etc.
As someone else pointed out, it seems like one of the big complaints about Super before this arc aired was that the pacing was too fast. Now that it's finally slowed down to where things can actually be built up and not rushed through in as little episodes as possible, people here start complaining that it's going too slow. Aside from wanting instant gratification I just don't see how someone can justify wanting the pacing to be faster. It's not like we're getting 6 months of Copy Vegeta-arc tier episodes here. Every single episode has been at least decent/good aside from perhaps the 17 Poacher one and Roshi/Tien, and they help to establish mood, setting, world-building, new characters, etc.
Super has had an extremely bumpy ride up until this point and I think even TOEI has realized that which is why they've made all these changes. Why anyone would want to go back on the bumpy road is beyond me. I mean, you've all seen Dragon Ball Z before haven't you? The anime series that's almost 300 episodes? Where 5 minutes of fighting translates into like 20 episodes? And now we're complaining about arcs that are around 13 episodes being too slow on pacing? How on earth did you guys even survive watching Z?