I can see why people take issue, but no it isn't odd. What really gets me confused is how some fans in this fanbase always complain about Goku winning all the time, or talk as if his privileges as a main character are any worse than what other MCs get. For an MC, Goku loses pretty damn often.Boo Machine wrote:Because Goku is the Man, The myth, The legend, THE ONE AND ONLY.
And he is damn handsome to boot.
Also is it really so odd that the main character gets main focus?
Why Goku is getting a lot of attention?
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I don't know of any other series where people complain about the main character having screen time and wins except for this one.
It seems like ever since Gohan beat a main villain in Cell, people feel like other characters besides Goku need to beat a main villain as well, Vegeta in particular.
It seems like ever since Gohan beat a main villain in Cell, people feel like other characters besides Goku need to beat a main villain as well, Vegeta in particular.
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Other characters are getting spotlight but the main character is the most important. That seems fine tbh.
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It seems that there is difficulty understanding what I mean ...
I'm saying that at the beginning of the tournament, it should be focused on exploring other characters. They are giving Goku a lot of attention, and he does not need it NOW because he has had 7 fights before.
We know he's going to be the finalist, what's the problem with highlighting other characters now and then back at him?
WHAT IS THE DIFFICULTY UNDERSTANDING THAT? I know he's the protagonist.
I'm saying that at the beginning of the tournament, it should be focused on exploring other characters. They are giving Goku a lot of attention, and he does not need it NOW because he has had 7 fights before.
We know he's going to be the finalist, what's the problem with highlighting other characters now and then back at him?
WHAT IS THE DIFFICULTY UNDERSTANDING THAT? I know he's the protagonist.
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Because its Goku lol wtf? Honestly some of the best parts of Z was when Goku wasnt around.
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This aint Z though, that portion has long past. Like it or not the "Z" portion of the story where Gohan and others where going to be successors has been dropped.
Goku is the main character and I don't see that aspect being toyed with again unless Toriyama is willing to ever let Goku become a old man in ongoing stories.
Goku is the main character and I don't see that aspect being toyed with again unless Toriyama is willing to ever let Goku become a old man in ongoing stories.
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We just had a episode focus on u2/17 and we're getting a Gohan one next week. They're doing exactly what you want...TheSaiyanGod wrote:It seems that there is difficulty understanding what I mean ...
I'm saying that at the beginning of the tournament, it should be focused on exploring other characters. They are giving Goku a lot of attention, and he does not need it NOW because he has had 7 fights before.
We know he's going to be the finalist, what's the problem with highlighting other characters now and then back at him?
WHAT IS THE DIFFICULTY UNDERSTANDING THAT? I know he's the protagonist.
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Because he's privileged! The writers feel they have to have Goku in an episode in some form regardless of whether or not it makes sense to do so. They aren't confident in building up the side characters and having them kick ass without Goku being involved in the episode.
At this point I really hope Goku gets sidelined somehow so we can have other characters fight and be important, instead of the likely scenario of Goku from episode to episode pinning for the attention of his new rivil! Thats all this tournament is at this point! Then again they don't call this "The Goku and that other Guy show (Feat: A bunch of worthless fodder)" for nothing.
At this point I really hope Goku gets sidelined somehow so we can have other characters fight and be important, instead of the likely scenario of Goku from episode to episode pinning for the attention of his new rivil! Thats all this tournament is at this point! Then again they don't call this "The Goku and that other Guy show (Feat: A bunch of worthless fodder)" for nothing.
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Because he's the main character.
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This is true to an extent, but greatly exaggerated. He barely played a role in 97, 99, 101, or 102. Considering we're only 6 episodes into the tournament so far, that's a majority of the ToP he barely played a part with other characters looking good without him really doing anything to prevent that.Shaqazooloo wrote:Because he's privileged! The writers feel they have to have Goku in an episode in some form regardless of whether or not it makes sense to do so. They aren't confident in building up the side characters and having them kick ass without Goku being involved in the episode.
At this point I really hope Goku gets sidelined somehow so we can have other characters fight and be important, instead of the likely scenario of Goku from episode to episode pinning for the attention of his new rivil! Thats all this tournament is at this point! Then again they don't call this "The Goku and that other Guy show (Feat: A bunch of worthless fodder)" for nothing.
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Shaqazooloo wrote:Because he's privileged! The writers feel they have to have Goku in an episode in some form regardless of whether or not it makes sense to do so. They aren't confident in building up the side characters and having them kick ass without Goku being involved in the episode.
At this point I really hope Goku gets sidelined somehow so we can have other characters fight and be important, instead of the likely scenario of Goku from episode to episode pinning for the attention of his new rivil! Thats all this tournament is at this point! Then again they don't call this "The Goku and that other Guy show (Feat: A bunch of worthless fodder)" for nothing.
Yeah lets just have Goten become SSG and fight Beerus.
Lets have Gohan fight Golder Frieza....oh yeah.
Lets have Vegeta take Hit! Oh he tried....and Vegeta did the lifting this arc.
Trunks probably should have gotten Piccolo and Roshi to fight Black/Zamasu as well.
Then as mentioned hes barely been featured 4 of 6 episodes since the TOP started.
So I'm not really sure what you want from the show.
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I would like it if they had properly built up other characters so they could make a decent contribution. They did it with Trunks but it came out of nowhere, is unexplained and honestly doesn't make any sense. They had the opportunity with Krillin, but they wasted it. They could still do something with Gohan. The problem I have with the show is it feels they have to have Goku in every episode somehow. I would just like to have an episode where Goku and Vegeta don't take any screen time from the side characters and overall the tournament just feels like it's following Goku and his unrequited love for Jiren, which I hate. This is a battle royal so I was kinda hoping for more action from people that aren't Goku and Vegeta.GodKaio-Ken wrote:Shaqazooloo wrote:Because he's privileged! The writers feel they have to have Goku in an episode in some form regardless of whether or not it makes sense to do so. They aren't confident in building up the side characters and having them kick ass without Goku being involved in the episode.
At this point I really hope Goku gets sidelined somehow so we can have other characters fight and be important, instead of the likely scenario of Goku from episode to episode pinning for the attention of his new rivil! Thats all this tournament is at this point! Then again they don't call this "The Goku and that other Guy show (Feat: A bunch of worthless fodder)" for nothing.
Yeah lets just have Goten become SSG and fight Beerus.
Lets have Gohan fight Golder Frieza....oh yeah.
Lets have Vegeta take Hit! Oh he tried....and Vegeta did the lifting this arc.
Trunks probably should have gotten Piccolo and Roshi to fight Black/Zamasu as well.
Then as mentioned hes barely been featured 4 of 6 episodes since the TOP started.
So I'm not really sure what you want from the show.
Also the side characters don't have to face the big baddy of the arc. I just want to feel like they matter at the very least, have them weaken the big bad that would otherwise be too strong, cause a diversion, stall them (without it being some huge gag). If I HAVE to put up with Goku I just want to feel like the characters other than Goku and Vegeta matter honestly, I don't think they can do that if those 2 are there because Goku and Vegeta are so far ahead of everybody.
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Re: Why Goku is getting a lot of attention?
Because he's the main character.
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No, it made Goku a plot device instead of an actual character.emperior wrote:I wished they used the hero-on-hiatus thing they used to do for Goku. It made him much more important and charismatic. Though it obviously wouldn't make too much sense in this tournament, and it sort of happened in the last tournament as Goku was sidelined for a few episodes after his fights with Frost.
Though Toei is really over-using Goku in this arc. But I don't complain, I've been liking him a lot.
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Shaqazooloo wrote:I would like it if they had properly built up other characters so they could make a decent contribution. They did it with Trunks but it came out of nowhere, is unexplained and honestly doesn't make any sense. They had the opportunity with Krillin, but they wasted it. They could still do something with Gohan. The problem I have with the show is it feels they have to have Goku in every episode somehow. I would just like to have an episode where Goku and Vegeta don't take any screen time from the side characters and overall the tournament just feels like it's following Goku and his unrequited love for Jiren, which I hate. This is a battle royal so I was kinda hoping for more action from people that aren't Goku and Vegeta.GodKaio-Ken wrote:Shaqazooloo wrote:Because he's privileged! The writers feel they have to have Goku in an episode in some form regardless of whether or not it makes sense to do so. They aren't confident in building up the side characters and having them kick ass without Goku being involved in the episode.
At this point I really hope Goku gets sidelined somehow so we can have other characters fight and be important, instead of the likely scenario of Goku from episode to episode pinning for the attention of his new rivil! Thats all this tournament is at this point! Then again they don't call this "The Goku and that other Guy show (Feat: A bunch of worthless fodder)" for nothing.
Yeah lets just have Goten become SSG and fight Beerus.
Lets have Gohan fight Golder Frieza....oh yeah.
Lets have Vegeta take Hit! Oh he tried....and Vegeta did the lifting this arc.
Trunks probably should have gotten Piccolo and Roshi to fight Black/Zamasu as well.
Then as mentioned hes barely been featured 4 of 6 episodes since the TOP started.
So I'm not really sure what you want from the show.
Also the side characters don't have to face the big baddy of the arc. I just want to feel like they matter at the very least, have them weaken the big bad that would otherwise be too strong, cause a diversion, stall them (without it being some huge gag). If I HAVE to put up with Goku I just want to feel like the characters other than Goku and Vegeta matter honestly, I don't think they can do that if those 2 are there because Goku and Vegeta are so far ahead of everybody.
#17 matters, Gohan will matter soon and most probably Frieza, so I don't know what's your point. Piccolo also may get a chance.
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I think I liked Goku more when he was a plot device honestly. I never thought I would actually start hating Goku until I started watching Dragon Ball Super. It's gotten to a point where I don't want to see him in any way, shape or form, which makes me really sad. I feel like I have to rewatch Dragon Ball GT because of this. I have to know whether this is a Super thing or I genuinely hate Goku.HeroR wrote:No, it made Goku a plot device instead of an actual character.emperior wrote:I wished they used the hero-on-hiatus thing they used to do for Goku. It made him much more important and charismatic. Though it obviously wouldn't make too much sense in this tournament, and it sort of happened in the last tournament as Goku was sidelined for a few episodes after his fights with Frost.
Though Toei is really over-using Goku in this arc. But I don't complain, I've been liking him a lot.
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Furthermore Goku was non-existent in the Krillin episode, the previous episode while he was there the episode wasn't really about him but more #18, Kale and Caulifla. The U9 battle and the Saiyan's clash were really the only episodes that were distinctly about Goku.Big Black Saiyan wrote:We just had a episode focus on u2/17 and we're getting a Gohan one next week. They're doing exactly what you want...TheSaiyanGod wrote:It seems that there is difficulty understanding what I mean ...
I'm saying that at the beginning of the tournament, it should be focused on exploring other characters. They are giving Goku a lot of attention, and he does not need it NOW because he has had 7 fights before.
We know he's going to be the finalist, what's the problem with highlighting other characters now and then back at him?
WHAT IS THE DIFFICULTY UNDERSTANDING THAT? I know he's the protagonist.
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Why would you watch GT to check that?Shaqazooloo wrote:I think I liked Goku more when he was a plot device honestly. I never thought I would actually start hating Goku until I started watching Dragon Ball Super. It's gotten to a point where I don't want to see him in any way, shape or form, which makes me really sad. I feel like I have to rewatch Dragon Ball GT because of this. I have to know whether this is a Super thing or I genuinely hate Goku.HeroR wrote:No, it made Goku a plot device instead of an actual character.emperior wrote:I wished they used the hero-on-hiatus thing they used to do for Goku. It made him much more important and charismatic. Though it obviously wouldn't make too much sense in this tournament, and it sort of happened in the last tournament as Goku was sidelined for a few episodes after his fights with Frost.
Though Toei is really over-using Goku in this arc. But I don't complain, I've been liking him a lot.
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I dont disagree they can/should be used. I'm a Goten fan...imagine being a Goten fan. When he does get a line its just about Kid Trunks.Shaqazooloo wrote:I would like it if they had properly built up other characters so they could make a decent contribution. They did it with Trunks but it came out of nowhere, is unexplained and honestly doesn't make any sense. They had the opportunity with Krillin, but they wasted it. They could still do something with Gohan. The problem I have with the show is it feels they have to have Goku in every episode somehow. I would just like to have an episode where Goku and Vegeta don't take any screen time from the side characters and overall the tournament just feels like it's following Goku and his unrequited love for Jiren, which I hate. This is a battle royal so I was kinda hoping for more action from people that aren't Goku and Vegeta.GodKaio-Ken wrote:Shaqazooloo wrote:Because he's privileged! The writers feel they have to have Goku in an episode in some form regardless of whether or not it makes sense to do so. They aren't confident in building up the side characters and having them kick ass without Goku being involved in the episode.
At this point I really hope Goku gets sidelined somehow so we can have other characters fight and be important, instead of the likely scenario of Goku from episode to episode pinning for the attention of his new rivil! Thats all this tournament is at this point! Then again they don't call this "The Goku and that other Guy show (Feat: A bunch of worthless fodder)" for nothing.
Yeah lets just have Goten become SSG and fight Beerus.
Lets have Gohan fight Golder Frieza....oh yeah.
Lets have Vegeta take Hit! Oh he tried....and Vegeta did the lifting this arc.
Trunks probably should have gotten Piccolo and Roshi to fight Black/Zamasu as well.
Then as mentioned hes barely been featured 4 of 6 episodes since the TOP started.
So I'm not really sure what you want from the show.
Also the side characters don't have to face the big baddy of the arc. I just want to feel like they matter at the very least, have them weaken the big bad that would otherwise be too strong, cause a diversion, stall them (without it being some huge gag). If I HAVE to put up with Goku I just want to feel like the characters other than Goku and Vegeta matter honestly, I don't think they can do that if those 2 are there because Goku and Vegeta are so far ahead of everybody.
I just think some people, not you, take it a bit overboard.
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GT was entirely focused around Goku pretty much. Now I suppose I could also watch Dragon ball for that, but I honestly really wanna rewatch GT, because I want to see which one I enjoy more. I remember actually enjoying GT quite a bit more than Super, but I haven't watched it in a while so it may just be that i'm more critical now, this is just another excuse that will hopefully get my procrastinating ass to actually follow through so I can compare.Simere wrote:Why would you watch GT to check that?Shaqazooloo wrote:I think I liked Goku more when he was a plot device honestly. I never thought I would actually start hating Goku until I started watching Dragon Ball Super. It's gotten to a point where I don't want to see him in any way, shape or form, which makes me really sad. I feel like I have to rewatch Dragon Ball GT because of this. I have to know whether this is a Super thing or I genuinely hate Goku.HeroR wrote:
No, it made Goku a plot device instead of an actual character.
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