Lord Beerus wrote:I brought these points up in another thread, but I'll reaffirm them because they remain valid:
- I'm not impressed with how Ribrianne's performed in the tournament so far. Base Vegeta easily overpowered her and would have finished her off if Rozie didn't make the save. And Base Goku was just fucking around with her, before he sent her crashing to ground with single kick as a SSJB. It really does seem like Toei did the old smoke-and-mirrors trick with regards as to how strong she truly was. Because now it seems like Android 17 was just dicking around with her too when he was fighting her as well, given how she's performed in the last 3 episodes.
- I feel this another one of those scenarios where Toriyama didn't put enough detail in the plot outline, in regards for how much Ribrianne would contribute in the tournament in terms of fighting other opponents, and Toei decided to throw her bone anyway and have her fight a SSJB tier character in Android 17 to start off with, before realising that the role Toriyama gave her in this whole arc was to have a fun and wacky transformation, before basically jobbing out to the Saiyans (Goku and/or Vegeta) once the actual tournament began.
- I have a horrible feeling Toriyama originally wrote Ribrianne to be a glorified gag character. And I will be very interested to see how the manga handles her. I still enjoy Ribrianne's character of being a deconstructive parody of the Magical Girl genre, but for a character who was billed a key player for Universe 2, she has really not live up to that billing. The more I think about it, the more I believe Ribrianne is a decoy protagonist for Team Universe 2, and the true heavy hitter(s) for Universe 2 haven't been seen yet.
Thing that I dislike
-Once again Ribrianne is a weakling,so dissapointed with her character throught the scene where Rozie motivated Ribrianne was nice.
I would not count down our Ribrianne Yet Spider-Man, Simere and Lord Beerus, Let me Explain.Simere wrote:I felt bad for Ribrianne this episode, and still feel bad thinking about it.
Really, I think This fight made more sense here with Vegeta then it did with Goku. Where in that I think both fighters where screwing around or Toei was screwing around, your pick, here it was more Clearly-Clear from the start of the fight something was wrong with Ribrianne, she was not her usual confident self and that came across right away. Story-wise and thanks to some discussion on the Strength page about this, you combine Ribrianne's battle after battle stacking up her fatigue, as well as and maybe more importantly;
What seem to be her quickly lacking confidence in herself and her team to win, their-by her lowing of her confidence in her love. This all come threw more defined when talking with Rozie. I believe now and thanks to a Discussion with Hugo Boss;
Ribrianne's Powers, which comes from her love or in this case in this moment/fight the confidence she had in her love can determine how strong she is. It is like how this works when I compared her to the Emotional Spectrum of the Lantern Cores from DC Comics, like I did when I 1st started talking about her powers. For Example, If a Green Lantern lacks self confidence in their Will then they become weaken and are open attacks like the Yellow Light of Fear.
So by this I think Ribrianne works the same way and combine that with being in battle after battle that have been against high tier fighters, it adds-ups.
So Indeed, as with the discussion with Rozie showed, she was lacking confidence in her Love and also being in so many battles, Plus the whole thing with Jiren revealing his true power...........Yea, that is why the Battle with Vegeta become so hard for her. I like detailed story elements like this that give details on how ones powers work and why a fight is playing out as it is here being more well defined.
We saw Ribrianne fight on a High Plan of Higher Tiers with Vegeta in SSJ-1 easy and Android 17 at a Serious level and Breaking his Shield with 1 Punch with not lose or fatigue or lack in power, just constent increasing in it. In These cases of these fights at those points, she was High in her confidence, ergo her Love and in herself as well as her team was high too.
This is a Good story element that can effect many fighters in their own ways. These events lead to that Very Important and Character-Changing moment where Rozie slaps her out of it to make her come back to her sense, a trope straight out of many Magical Girl/Sailor Moon/Anime Theme Heroes, where the hero get down on themselves and need to be motivated to become who they are again. Ribrianne was in a self-doubting moment, so her powers where low, so it works well here towards justifying that moment and I Love this clever story element to help push Ribrianne into hopefully a Greater Form of Power to come.
So while the Base Goku Fight was weird to say it in the nicest way, this Fight with Vegeta was far more well defined and executed, leading to what I believe we will see Spider-Man, Simere and Lord Beerus into a New Level of power and hopefully a New Form of Ribrianne too. Only time will tell What and Who is right, but that is my breakdown of this important moment and what might come next from it!