How strong will the fusion between kale and caulifa be?

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How strong will the fusion between kale and caulifa be?

Post by Toonami1998 » Sun Oct 29, 2017 8:09 am

I'm saying Vegito Buu saga. Which is the equivalent of golden frieza possibly...

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Re: How strong will the fusion between kale and caulifa be?

Post by ssbgoku » Sun Oct 29, 2017 8:21 am

This is hard to say with inconsistent power scaling in dbs, but this is how I see it:

Base Cafla ~ ssj2 goku
SSJ Cafla - ssj3 goku < ssg goku
SSJ2 Cafla - ssg goku
SSJ3 Cafla - kkx2(3) ssb goku
SS BERSERKER Cafla - kkx20 ssb goku

in Compare Current Vegetto would be(goku before UI)
Base Vegetto - ss3 goku < ssg goku
SSJ Vegetto - ssg goku
SSJ2 Vegetto - ssg goku < ssb goku
SSJ3 Vegetto - (almost full power)ssb goku
SSG Vegetto - kkx10 ssb goku
SSB Vegetto - Jiren or above
UI Vegetto - Angels or above

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Re: How strong will the fusion between kale and caulifa be?

Post by julianix » Sun Oct 29, 2017 10:23 am

It should be stronger than ssj3 goku but not stronger than ssb Goku. Unless they are just going over the top with it.

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Post by Polyphase Avatron » Sun Oct 29, 2017 10:28 am

Strong enough to one-shot Jiren, but still loses to Ribrianne (Using typical DBS logic).
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Re: How strong will the fusion between kale and caulifa be?

Post by sintzu » Sun Oct 29, 2017 10:28 am

julianix wrote:It should be stronger than ssj3 goku but not stronger than ssb Goku. Unless they are just going over the top with it.
Blue Goku wasn't able to do much to Kale so her fusing with someone already strong should result in a tough fight for him in that form.
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Re: How strong will the fusion between kale and caulifa be?

Post by pacz360 » Sun Oct 29, 2017 10:30 am

sintzu wrote:
julianix wrote:It should be stronger than ssj3 goku but not stronger than ssb Goku. Unless they are just going over the top with it.
Blue Goku wasn't able to do much to Kale so her fusing with someone already strong should result in a tough fight for him in that form.
Depends on how much goku was holding back in blue
Also next week as well
The fusion should be at least ssjb tier

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Re: How strong will the fusion between kale and caulifa be?

Post by namekiansaiyan » Sun Oct 29, 2017 10:34 am

pacz360 wrote:
sintzu wrote:
julianix wrote:It should be stronger than ssj3 goku but not stronger than ssb Goku. Unless they are just going over the top with it.
Blue Goku wasn't able to do much to Kale so her fusing with someone already strong should result in a tough fight for him in that form.
Depends on how much goku was holding back in blue
Also next week as well
The fusion should be at least ssjb tier
The fusion will make Goku go back to full power so he can fight Jiren again. I think that is the point of this fight.

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Re: How strong will the fusion between kale and caulifa be?

Post by Duo » Sun Oct 29, 2017 11:39 am

Goku didn't think fusion would be able to beat Beerus during Battle of Gods, at which point him and Vegeta were in the same tier of power as these two presently are. It stands to reason that they will about about as powerful as Super Vegetto was, which is probably weaker than Super Saiyan God.
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Post by sintzu » Sun Oct 29, 2017 11:43 am

pacz360 wrote:Depends on how much goku was holding back in blue.
It seems like this is the default answer to power inconsistencies.
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Re: How strong will the fusion between kale and caulifa be?

Post by Verse » Sun Oct 29, 2017 12:00 pm

In Z I think we were given better parameters to create tier list (although still not 100% consistent). I think that Super gives even less in the way of proper measurements ad thus makes Super tier list impossible. However, within the context of what they routinely show us [in Super], I suspect while this fusion will be strong, Goku (rested) and Vegeta will still be able to take care of this being with no problems. And still not be a major threat to Jiren, etc.

I could be wrong though. Mafuba.

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Re: How strong will the fusion between kale and caulifa be?

Post by MKCSTEALTH » Sun Oct 29, 2017 12:09 pm

However strong the plot deems her to be, it would seem. I don't see how Berserker Kale could stomp a (most likely suppressed) SSB Goku yet now Goku appears to be going up against her as a SSJ2.

Plus, we don't really know how her Super Saiyan forms are gonna work given the fact it's a combination of Kale and Caulifla. Maybe we'll see a two toned hairstyle like Karoly's.

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Post by FoolsGil » Sun Oct 29, 2017 12:13 pm

She'll be strong enough, but no more than that.
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Re: How strong will the fusion between kale and caulifa be?

Post by emperior » Sun Oct 29, 2017 1:42 pm

I could see Kefla pusing Goku to use Super Saiyan God (or even Blue) after going SSJ3, this way Goku will show the girls just how distant the next realm of power is.
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Re: How strong will the fusion between kale and caulifa be?

Post by Kaiosama » Sun Oct 29, 2017 1:45 pm

Not as strong as SSB Vegito, but still very strong (it's a potara fusion between two very strong characters with a close relationship, so they will be stronger than Hit). Factoring in Kale's berserk power (which is SSG/SSB level), I would say they will be the strongest in the ToP after Jiren until Goku obtains UI again. Think Merged Zamasu sans the immortality. This is U6's secret trump card.

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Re: How strong will the fusion between kale and caulifa be?

Post by Toonami1998 » Sun Oct 29, 2017 2:22 pm

Calling it now she'll be able to go ssg just watch..

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Re: How strong will the fusion between kale and caulifa be?

Post by GreatSaiyaJeff » Sun Oct 29, 2017 3:11 pm

I would like to say they will be close to Hit's level, But I can't picture them being stroinger then him though.
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Re: How strong will the fusion between kale and caulifa be?

Post by SansrivaaL » Sun Oct 29, 2017 3:40 pm

Kafla will go SSJ Rose, mark my words!

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Post by precita » Sun Oct 29, 2017 4:07 pm

If Trunks and Goten could go Super Saiyan 3 as a fusion when they were just basic Super Saiyans, logically speaking a Super Saiyan 2 and whatever the hell Kale is should make them on God level or more.

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Re: How strong will the fusion between kale and caulifa be?

Post by Asura » Sun Oct 29, 2017 4:47 pm

As an SSJ3 she'll probably be at SSB level with the likes of Dyspo/Toppo/Vegeta, although probably slightly below them.

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Re: How strong will the fusion between kale and caulifa be?

Post by Tombstone1988 » Sun Oct 29, 2017 6:48 pm

As strong as they want it to be. Fusions are one of Dragon Ball's "get out of jail free" cards, making someone as strong as is necessary for the plot without arousing much in the way of complaints.
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