WittyUsername wrote:Anyone want to place any bets on how the movie will perform in North America?
I'd like to assume it'd be even more successful, it'd actually be surprising if it wasnt because it already has two advantages over the last one.
1. Dragon Ball is more popular now than it was when Resurrection F came out.
2. It's only a month wait from the Japanese release as opposed to four months. Not a big deal as Resurrection F wasn't online by then but it's still an advantage.
The rest we'll have to see. Resurrection F only had a limited amount of days in release, on a set theatre count with a set amount of screenings per day.
If this movie can be in theatres longer, wider and with more showings a day then it will make more money. I'd imagine the advertisement will be greater too.
I'd be happy with anything over $10 million and I'd say $15 million would the limit.
precita wrote:When the hell are Trunks and Goten going to get some focus. They were in a Broly movie!
Also the answer is right front of you: when they are popular enough to be.
Which they never will be, when they don't have relevant roles in the first place.
It would be fun to see some children violence like we had back in M10, but it would piss me off too see Goten and Trunks again with they same old brats designs.
Simere wrote:Beerus: “Hmm? But didn’t Freeza destroy Planet Vegeta, where the Saiyans were?”
Whis: “Yes, it was you who asked him to do that while you were sleeping, wasn’t it?”
Beerus: “Well, they pissed me off. Particularly that King Vegeta guy.”
And yet people says that BoG was perfect, this little bit kinda ruins Freeza character for me as everyone thought before that the reason behind him destroying Planet Vegeta as because of his fear of the Saiyans getting too strong for him to handle.
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Power levels are not just big numbers:
Spoiler:
Power levels establish tension and drama. People who care about them (well, people who care about them in a narrative) don't care about the big numbers or the fancy explosions. If you have character A who's so much above character B, who's the main character, you're gonna be left wondering how in the hell character B, the character we're supposed to care and root for, is going to escape the situation or overcome the odds. It makes us emotionally invested.
If character B doesn't escape the situation in a believable way that's consistent with previous events, then that emotional investment is gone. It was pointless tension, pointless drama made just to suck in the viewer. It has no critical value whatsoever. The audience is left believing that the author can just create whatever scenarios he wants and what happens to the characters is decided by whatever the author wants to happen, regardless of the events that happened in the story. Which, in fairness, is what happens, but the audience wants to be fooled. The audience wants to know that the world they're following has rules. That the world they're invested in isn't going to bend to external factors that are irrelevant to them.
An author can do whatever he wants with the characters, that's not false. But the author should also have the responsibility to make sure it fits in cohesively with the other events in the narrative he has created.
It's interesting that they're getting a dubbed version of the movie out that early. It makes sense to be as quick as possible to capitalise as much as you can, but I don't see their run of the Super dub being done by then. I hear the dub hasn't reached the beginning of the Universe Survival arc yet, so that means there's another year to go if the pace is one episode a week... which, obviously, doesn't match up with January 2019. "Dragon Ball Super: Broly" is supposed to follow the ToP, and if the plot contains callbacks to parts of the ToP arc that haven't aired by then, it might spoil them (obviously it'll spoil that Universe 7 survives, but everyone knows that already). I guess the risk of spoiling the ToP is worth taking in Funimation's eyes?
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sintzu wrote:
It'd have to make 134 million to take the #10 spot, something I highly doubt it'll do.
I don't see why not right? DB is huge right now
BOG made 50 million while RF made 65. In order to make 134 it'd have to double what RF did, DB is big but not that big. One Piece's biggest movie made 85 and one piece is just as big as DB so doing something as big as 134 is a very tall order that'd take a lot more movies to build up to.
No way. One Piece i the biggest manga series in Japan, but it doesn’t compare to Dragon Ball when it comes to Worldwide popularity. I’d say DB is at least considerably bigger than One Piece. I believe that if they play their cards right, this movie could very well take the 10th spot at least. Between the small gap between movies releases in the world, the fact that the movie centers around DB’s most popular movie character, and that DBS is currently running all over the world and is even getting more screentime, they’re already doing things right. Now we need so actuall commercials for the movie that can be aired all over the world so that more casual fans know about the movie.
I called it that Gogeta, Bardock, and something Broly related would be in the movie before it was even announced that it was a Broly movie.
"I don't think I'm a hero of justice or anythin'. But those who'd hurt my friends... I won't forgive!"
emperior wrote:Toriyama is rearranging some elements from the Broly movies. My idea is that he will keep:
- Broly being the Legendary Super Saiyan
- Paragus being his father
- Stabbed as a newborn as he is considered a threat
- Him escaping the Planet’s destruction (with the pod in the poster)
- Getting frozen for years
Seems good, but other thing I would like to have is he kill his own father. If not Paragus, someone else related to him to make it impactful.
This is the problem of rebooting something. Fans will inevitably compare both versions and the older version may still have its pros.
Toriyama said he will add a new side to Broly's character, but how different that will make him to be?! And how risky that may be for his fans?!
I didn't like to see the ruthless and badass Bardock that I saw first on Toei TV Special, acting like this in DB Minus by Toriyama:
PFM18 wrote:
I don't see why not right? DB is huge right now
BOG made 50 million while RF made 65. In order to make 134 it'd have to double what RF did, DB is big but not that big. One Piece's biggest movie made 85 and one piece is just as big as DB so doing something as big as 134 is a very tall order that'd take a lot more movies to build up to.
No way. One Piece i the biggest manga series in Japan, but it doesn’t compare to Dragon Ball when it comes to Worldwide popularity. I’d say DB is at least considerably bigger than One Piece. I believe that if they play their cards right, this movie could very well take the 10th spot at least. Between the small gap between movies releases in the world, the fact that the movie centers around DB’s most popular movie character, and that DBS is currently running all over the world and is even getting more screentime, they’re already doing things right. Now we need so actuall commercials for the movie that can be aired all over the world so that more casual fans know about the movie.
Yeah DBS has been airing for over 2 years and building in popularity for the majority of it's run. And DB is just straight up better than One Piece imo. It really depends to some extent on how good the marketing for the movie is.
Spoiler:
Super carries on much of Dragon Ball and Z's charm in ways that might not immediately be obvious, while also bringing something new to the table. I certainly can't think of any previous arcs like Goku Black, and, for all its problems, the Tournament of Power is possibly the most ambitious storytelling endeavor in series history as far as how its narrative unfolds. It's also a thrill ride, which is all I wanted and exactly what I got. Super also canonizes decades old fan theories in ways that very naturally tie into the overall fabric of Dragon Ball's world in satisfying ways. All in all, Dragon Ball, Z, and Super are all well worth experiencing.
Alruneia wrote:It's interesting that they're getting a dubbed version of the movie out that early. It makes sense to be as quick as possible to capitalise as much as you can, but I don't see their run of the Super dub being done by then. I hear the dub hasn't reached the beginning of the Universe Survival arc yet, so that means there's another year to go if the pace is one episode a week... which, obviously, doesn't match up with January 2019. "Dragon Ball Super: Broly" is supposed to follow the ToP, and if the plot contains callbacks to parts of the ToP arc that haven't aired by then, it might spoil them (obviously it'll spoil that Universe 7 survives, but everyone knows that already). I guess the risk of spoiling the ToP is worth taking in Funimation's eyes?
By now I'm sure everyone knows the major beats of what happened in the U.S arc. Shouldn't be too much of an issue.
FUNi have made similar decisions in the past, Fairy Tail they were 30+ dub episodes behind the current Japanese airing but decided to go ahead and start giving FT the Simuldub treatment despite being an entire arc behind.
FortuneSSJ wrote:
Toriyama said he will add a new side to Broly's character, but how different that will make him to be?! And how risky that may be for his fans?!
Assuming Toriyama adds a more human side to Broly's character, I'm sure a fair amount of his fans wouldn't be on board with that at all since it could detract from those irredeemably sadistic traits that established him to be such a terrifying antagonist in his franchise debut. As someone who never liked Broly as a character from the start, I'm all for it, personally.
There isn't a single doubt in my mind that, regardless of whichever direction Toriyama takes with his approach to Broly's characterization and backstory, someone is going to be disappointed and someone else is going to love it. Just gotta roll with the punches.
Welp. This was on Ajay’s Twitter so I'm pretty sure its offical. I perceive this was “whoever isn’t on this power isn’t important (not counted the new saiyans that are been saved for reveals and Paragus)”. Its a surprise that Piccolo of all people is there but whatever. Important role incoming? And before anyone says, “maybe people like Gohan, Goten, etc are just being saved for reveals”, Bulma is at the bottom. So i think it means everyone else just isn’t important. And we see SSGod Goku.
I called it that Gogeta, Bardock, and something Broly related would be in the movie before it was even announced that it was a Broly movie.
"I don't think I'm a hero of justice or anythin'. But those who'd hurt my friends... I won't forgive!"
Really like Broly's new clothes. His clothes look very similar to what the new characters are wearing, so it still fits with my theory that he's working for Freeza in this film. Also, SSJ God is in the movie!
A January North America theatrical release is fantastic news. It's safe to assume that Australia and New Zealand will get it around the same time since that happened with Resurrection 'F' as well.
Marlowe89 wrote:There isn't a single doubt in my mind that, regardless of whichever direction Toriyama takes with his approach to Broly's characterization and backstory, someone is going to be disappointed and someone else is going to love it. Just gotta roll with the punches.
Exactly. It doesn't matter what is done there will be people that love it and people that hate it. I would imagine this is going to be at least a fairly polarizing film
Spoiler:
Super carries on much of Dragon Ball and Z's charm in ways that might not immediately be obvious, while also bringing something new to the table. I certainly can't think of any previous arcs like Goku Black, and, for all its problems, the Tournament of Power is possibly the most ambitious storytelling endeavor in series history as far as how its narrative unfolds. It's also a thrill ride, which is all I wanted and exactly what I got. Super also canonizes decades old fan theories in ways that very naturally tie into the overall fabric of Dragon Ball's world in satisfying ways. All in all, Dragon Ball, Z, and Super are all well worth experiencing.
I don't think it's like, an actual movie poster, considering how fucking awesome the one we got was. Though, Broly's color scheme proves his dedication to Dragon Ball's legacy by giving us our daily dose, which isn't exactly a fun sign.
Also Bulma confirmed, but that's not a huge surprise.
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