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No he wouldn'tMercenary wrote:I hope not because he would wreck Broly.AnimeNation101 wrote:That Beerus pic is something we’ve already seen. Or a few frames before the Beerus pic we’ve seen. Nothing suggests he’s gonna fight BrolyYamiGoku wrote:Spoiler:Spoiler:
First time hearing this, do you have a link?zarmack wrote:According to promo guides: DBS Broly > Jiren > Beerus
zarmack wrote:No he wouldn'tMercenary wrote:I hope not because he would wreck Broly.AnimeNation101 wrote: That Beerus pic is something we’ve already seen. Or a few frames before the Beerus pic we’ve seen. Nothing suggests he’s gonna fight Broly
According to promo guides: DBS Broly > Jiren > Beerus
Toriyama's mood being like - Why bother planning things beforehand, when you can just retcon everything.RecolorSaiyan wrote: Well then, looks like a good time for a Retcon
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They also have UK listed for January 25, 2019. But again, I can't find any announcement from an official source.Baggie_Saiyan wrote:Unfortunately not. But the fact they have a Ukrainian title maybe adds to the credibility?TheRed259 wrote:Do you happen to know their source? I searched about it (even with the Ukrainian title) but I found nothing.Baggie_Saiyan wrote:Apparently according to IMDB Ukraine will get the film in Jan! European roll out finally beginning.
Definitely hasn't been an announcement of any sort. Hmm. I hope someone isn't playing games here.TheRed259 wrote:They also have UK listed for January 25, 2019. But again, I can't find any announcement from an official source.Baggie_Saiyan wrote:Unfortunately not. But the fact they have a Ukrainian title maybe adds to the credibility?TheRed259 wrote: Do you happen to know their source? I searched about it (even with the Ukrainian title) but I found nothing.
LOL. That’s a good one!FortuneSSJ wrote:Toriyama's mood being like - Why bother planning things beforehand, when you can just retcon everything.RecolorSaiyan wrote: Well then, looks like a good time for a Retcon
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It is pretty clear at this point. The promotional material for the movie refers to Broly as the strongest enemy they have ever faced, and "stronger than a God of Destruction?" They are just following the common practice of introducing a new villain stronger than anything they have fought prior to that point.mute_proxy wrote:First time hearing this, do you have a link?zarmack wrote:According to promo guides: DBS Broly > Jiren > Beerus
The question mark in "stronger than a God of Destruction?" isn't there by accident. I have my doubts on that one. And what's this about Jiren being above Beerus?PFM18 wrote:It is pretty clear at this point. The promotional material for the movie refers to Broly as the strongest enemy they have ever faced, and "stronger than a God of Destruction?" They are just following the common practice of introducing a new villain stronger than anything they have fought prior to that point.
Jiren was stated to be on the level of a GoD and has long since been confirmed to be stronger Belmod. Likewise, supplementary materials stated that Goku with UI is stronger than a GoD. Unless we assume that Beerus is significantly more powerful than the other Gods of Destruction, characters like Broly and Jiren should at the very least be on his level by this point.mute_proxy wrote:The question mark in "stronger than a God of Destruction?" isn't there by accident. I have my doubts on that one. And what's this about Jiren being above Beerus?PFM18 wrote:It is pretty clear at this point. The promotional material for the movie refers to Broly as the strongest enemy they have ever faced, and "stronger than a God of Destruction?" They are just following the common practice of introducing a new villain stronger than anything they have fought prior to that point.
HeroR wrote:Some tears here and there, but as I pointed out Vegeta has a giant chuck of his armor missing, making him appear more injured than he does in the pic you posted where he just looks like he has a gash on his forehead. It isn't just about blood, and it's about the overall appearance.mahakaishin1991 wrote:the top one also has ripped clothes....HeroR wrote:
Honestly, the bottom since the clothes are torn off and Goku specifically has bandages and Vegeta missing a giant chuck of his armor, something not seen in Dragon Ball before, while the above just looks like Vegeta got a gash on his forehead.
A better visual example would be this:
But you see my point right? The severity of injuries is reduced in Super
It honestly doesn't make sense. Everything Whis has told us tells us Vegeta and Goku are still miles away from Beerus in power. Even now. Unless they suddenly leapfrogged Beerus in power and can now defeat him.WittyUsername wrote:Jiren was stated to be on the level of a GoD and has long since been confirmed to be stronger Belmod. Likewise, supplementary materials stated that Goku with UI is stronger than a GoD. Unless we assume that Beerus is significantly more powerful than the other Gods of Destruction, characters like Broly and Jiren should at the very least be on his level by this point.mute_proxy wrote:The question mark in "stronger than a God of Destruction?" isn't there by accident. I have my doubts on that one. And what's this about Jiren being above Beerus?PFM18 wrote:It is pretty clear at this point. The promotional material for the movie refers to Broly as the strongest enemy they have ever faced, and "stronger than a God of Destruction?" They are just following the common practice of introducing a new villain stronger than anything they have fought prior to that point.
Frankly, I’m not really sure why there’s such a fascination with Beerus being the strongest opponent Goku has ever faced. That’s just boring.
Didn’t Whis state all the way back in Ressurection ‘F’ that Goku and Vegeta might’ve stood a chance against Beerus if they learned to work together? I realize that’s obviously been retconned by now, but when did Whis ever state that Goku was still miles behind Beerus after he obtained UI? Not only that, but why would Whis state that Jiren is on the level of a GoD if he’s nowhere near Beerus’ level? Just how much stronger would Beerus have to be compared to the other Gods of Destruction in order for Goku to still be miles behind him, especially when Beerus hasn’t even mastered UI?TheMikado wrote:It honestly doesn't make sense. Everything Whis has told us tells us Vegeta and Goku are still miles away from Beerus in power. Even now. Unless they suddenly leapfrogged Beerus in power and can now defeat him.WittyUsername wrote:Jiren was stated to be on the level of a GoD and has long since been confirmed to be stronger Belmod. Likewise, supplementary materials stated that Goku with UI is stronger than a GoD. Unless we assume that Beerus is significantly more powerful than the other Gods of Destruction, characters like Broly and Jiren should at the very least be on his level by this point.mute_proxy wrote:
The question mark in "stronger than a God of Destruction?" isn't there by accident. I have my doubts on that one. And what's this about Jiren being above Beerus?
Frankly, I’m not really sure why there’s such a fascination with Beerus being the strongest opponent Goku has ever faced. That’s just boring.
That is just a buttload of assuming and nothing elseAmir wrote:Jiren was stated to might have surpassed the GoD state, which already makes him top tier GoD level at worst, and stronger than all GoDs at best (most likey since he was suppressed when Whis said it).
After Jiren broke his limits he became several times stronger which makes him way above Beerus, and Broly is even stronger. Broly is way above Beerus.
No, it questions if Broly is stronger than a god of destruction. Again, Beerus name isn't in it...zarmack wrote:No he wouldn'tMercenary wrote:I hope not because he would wreck Broly.AnimeNation101 wrote: That Beerus pic is something we’ve already seen. Or a few frames before the Beerus pic we’ve seen. Nothing suggests he’s gonna fight Broly
According to promo guides: DBS Broly > Jiren > Beerus
Please stop stating your headcannon as fact. Jiren was only outright stated to be stronger than belmound in both anime/manga. You pretending the gods are all around the same power is nothing more than a headache.Amir wrote:Jiren was stated to might have surpassed the GoD state, which already makes him top tier GoD level at worst, and stronger than all GoDs at best (most likey since he was suppressed when Whis said it).
After Jiren broke his limits he became several times stronger which makes him way above Beerus, and Broly is even stronger. Broly is way above Beerus.
It's not headcanon. Whis said Jiren perhaps even surpassed the state of a GoD in episode 110.Miracles wrote:No, it questions if Broly is stronger than a god of destruction. Again, Beerus name isn't in it...zarmack wrote:No he wouldn'tMercenary wrote:
I hope not because he would wreck Broly.
According to promo guides: DBS Broly > Jiren > Beerus
https://twitter.com/Herms98/status/1025416473068466177
Please stop stating your headcannon as fact. Jiren was only outright stated to be stronger than belmound in both anime/manga. You pretending the gods are all around the same power is nothing more than a headache.Amir wrote:Jiren was stated to might have surpassed the GoD state, which already makes him top tier GoD level at worst, and stronger than all GoDs at best (most likey since he was suppressed when Whis said it).
After Jiren broke his limits he became several times stronger which makes him way above Beerus, and Broly is even stronger. Broly is way above Beerus.
Like you, Whis was stating headcannon too. He only confirmed Jiren surpassed Belmound. There was no "perhaps" about that.Amir wrote:It's not headcanon. Whis said Jiren perhaps even surpassed the state of a GoD in episode 110.Miracles wrote:No, it questions if Broly is stronger than a god of destruction. Again, Beerus name isn't in it...zarmack wrote:
No he wouldn't
According to promo guides: DBS Broly > Jiren > Beerus
https://twitter.com/Herms98/status/1025416473068466177
Please stop stating your headcannon as fact. Jiren was only outright stated to be stronger than belmound in both anime/manga. You pretending the gods are all around the same power is nothing more than a headache.Amir wrote:Jiren was stated to might have surpassed the GoD state, which already makes him top tier GoD level at worst, and stronger than all GoDs at best (most likey since he was suppressed when Whis said it).
After Jiren broke his limits he became several times stronger which makes him way above Beerus, and Broly is even stronger. Broly is way above Beerus.
Take however you want, but that was before he used full power let alone broke his limits.
The GoDs in the manga are more or less around the same power. They fought randomly and got badly injured, including Beerus.
