Official On-Going Dragon Ball Super Movie #1 Thread: "Broly"

[AnimeNation101]

Anyone else think that the person we see at the bottom of the poster isn’t Broly? I think it could be a bait and switch. In fact, i find it kind of convient how the saiyan at the bottom just so happens to be cut off at the point where you wouldn’t be able to see the cheek scar the Broly at the top of the poster has.

I don’t think Broly is gonna be the only saiyan in the movie. Heck, he might not even be a bad guy, but an ally. That would be way more interesting.

[The Patrolman]

Rest in peace, Dragon Ball: ♥ 1984 - † 2013. May your past be well preserved and your present be forgotten. Amen!

Only games can save this franchise now. Hopefully we get Xenoverse 3, FighterZ 2 and more games with other stories to tell sooner.

Oh how the mighty have fallen

[TKA]

Initial reaction was being very miffed that it was Broly.

After reading Toriyama's statement and seeing that he recognized the problems with Broly as a character, AND after seeing his new design, I am cautiously optimistic.

[Hellspawn28]

What if Toriyama does end up redoing the other old movie villains like Coola and Janemba if this movie does well enough?

[AnimeNation101]

Rest in peace, Dragon Ball: ♥ 1984 - † 2013. May your past be well preserved and your present be forgotten. Amen!

Only games can save this franchise now. Hopefully we get Xenoverse 3, FighterZ 2 and more games with other stories to tell sooner.

Oh how the mighty have fallen

People be overreacting. I bet everyone is still gonna see the movie

[PFM18]

If they change him too much then he won't be anything like Broly and fans will complain that it's just Broly in name only.

I don't care if people complain about that. To me that is the best case scenario. A new "Broly" but he is only Broly by name and is instead an interesting character that is part of the greatest DB movie of all time. A Broly that has a real backstory, interesting motives, a nuanced personality and an interesting transformation with tie-ins to the origins of the Saiyans. THAT is what I want. The less like the original Broly the better IMO. That way this Broly could wipe the old Broly out of everyone's memory and be forgotten forever. Toriyama's Dragon Ball Super Broly would completely overshadow Toei's Dragon Ball Z Broly.

A man can dream.

I am disappointed by this news of it being about Broly but with that being said no matter what they did with this movie people would whine and complain about it. That is how things are in 2018. The negative rhetoric dominates always

[WittyUsername]

What if Toriyama does end up redoing the other old movie villains like Coola and Janemba if this movie does well enough?

Janemba is actually something I might be open to, but Cooler is a definite no. Not only is Freeza officially a recurring character in Dragon Ball, but we already have a Freeza clone in the form of Frost.

[THEGOKU]

Everyone for the most part is either happy or mad. There is no way to satisfy everyone honestly and yes we could have a new villain but I prefer this. It gives a character a chance to become something. Clearly he won’t be the meathead that he was in the previous movies and we should have seen this coming from the beginning with Cale. People hated Beerus cause he is a cat and now he is loved, they hated that RoF had freeza but were happy he was in the tournament. There is no winning but everyone just sit back and watch it before you damn it to hell lol.

[A Man named RJ]

So does everyone remember when Toriyama rewrote the Bardock story? I member.

[Dragono]

What if Toriyama does end up redoing the other old movie villains like Coola and Janemba if this movie does well enough?

he won't. Broly's popularity is massive as is Freeza's. You didn't see diamond cell.

[Dragono]

So does everyone remember when Toriyama rewrote the Bardock story? I member.

You cannot compare that to this. That was a tacked on bonus chapter with a character that toriyama himself knew he couldn't make and had no story. It was just things that happened.


Until we see this move, there is no precedent to compare this to

[Champa The Destroyer]

When you think DBS can't get any worse.

Broly is coming.

When you think GT can't get any worse.

"Super" 17 is coming.










Honestly I have mixed feelings about this. I think that Toriyama has a chance to make Broly an interesting character, but if he's anything like current Broly then it will be terrible. Plus the name "Dragon Ball Super: Broly" is a terrible name and is easily the worst title out of all the Dragon Ball films.

[WittyUsername]

I don’t know how many people here go on TV Tropes, but there’s a theory over on the WMG section that Broly in this movie will be a reincarnation of Yamoshi.

[Shaddy]

See here's the thing. If they just did Broly, I'd be angry. If they just didn't do Broly, I'd be happy...maybe (that is to say, if it didn't suck).

They're not fully doing Broly or not Broly, though.

What I think this is, is a Saiyan story Toriyama wanted to tell on his terms. The idea of it being Broly is solely there for marketability, and why this is fine is because it's likely not going to revolve around the things we know Broly for. The complaints of rehashing and overexposure to the character come from a lack of variety, not the inherent concept being bad. Sonic fans don't hate Green Hill, they hate Green Hill for the fiftieth time with basically no changes whatsoever, while Whispy Woods isn't hated by the Kirby fandom because sometimes he's a robot, or fights by uprooting himself and jumping around the stage, or you can set him on fire. Or hell, why do people still read new Batman comics after the character has existed for eight goddamn years?

But at least from my perspective, this Broly's whole point is that he's not the same tired old Broly from three movies and a million promotional products, he's Toriyama's Broly, with actual potential layers and interest to his history (again, potential, if Tori writes this thing like shit it won't matter anyway). And while I'd be the first to say Dragon Ball needs to divorce itself from nostalgia and do weirder, different stuff, this is kind of like a halfway between something like the U6 arc and RoF. It's not wholly derivative or original, and the fact that Frieza is in it with some new minions means it definitely won't just be a Toriyama remake of any of Broly's other films. So I'm mostly waiting to hear more, but I can't say I fully agree with "it's a rehash!" or "it's a new direction!" when the concept in and of itself is neither Broly we knew nor anyone we didn't.

re: DB Minus, the key distinction is that Broly has nowhere to go but up, while Bardock's special was one of the best pieces of material in the franchise on it's own.

re: "Dragon Ball Super: Broly", yeah, the name is pretty dumb. I hope the English version chooses something better, but I'm not getting my hopes up since that's a relatively negligible issue.

[BrolyKale]

You watched it and you dare to say that he has no personality? ok. Bye.

Dude, Broly is a dumb character. Get over it. His whole motivation for trying to kill Goku is that Goku cried when he was a baby. That's it. He's not complicated, he's not interesting, he's just pure testosterone. Kale did it better, and I'm sure the reboot will too, but I'd rather they used a new idea instead of fixing a tired old idea for the second time.

You are right. I agree with you.

[jollyroger]

I'm not a huge fan of Broly but honestly I prefer this than just another random stronger than ever Saiyan popping up. I think Brolys face on the poster says a lot as he looks calm and calculated as opposed to just a psychopath and I'm interested to see the whole backstory with the saiyans and Frieza. I think its kind of cool for Toriyama to try and turn him into an actual interesting character.

[Melkaniator]

I think the issue with the backlash is that we have nothing to judge off of except for a single piece of the premise

I'm not complaining about the final product, since that's not out obviously, but I don't like anything I've seen so far.

• Art
• Concept
• Recycled Villain

That analogy doesn't work when you're 4 years in.

A car crash is always gonna be a car crash, there's no reason to stop seeing cars getting crashed.

Same goes with fun conversations with friends.

Barely. Most of the popular villains are copies.

I would always prefer copies for a movie over recycling.

Cell/Majin Buu:

• Want to fight strong warriors.

• Absorb others gets stronger.

• Uses attacks from "Z fighters"

Similarities are nothing new anyway.

the execs can only assume we want more laziness and rehashes. All the while the fans justified it with financial sheets and data. Super has a consistent records of “contradicting canon” and established storylines. But in fans efforts to justify Super rather than take it task for half assed concepts and execution, we enabled it.

The fans are the ones who brought it on themselves.

They know most fans will accept anything Akira and/or Toei throws at them.

They can make Goku rainbow hair, and many will be...

"Oh, you haters, you don't get the symbolism of those colors".

[Super Saiyan Swagger]

Okay, so judging by the voice cast and the new characters, the characters in this film are:
Goku
Vegeta
Broly
Paragus
Piccolo
Beerus
Whis
Freeza
Chelye
Lemo
Kikono
Bulma
Kid Trunks
Gohan(?)
Goten(?)

[theTUN]

I'm trying to maintain some cautious optimism, I am. Every single announcement in the past has made me similarly concerned. I...just...eugh.

Edit: Ok, in all fairness, I always thought the lore surrounding Broly was really interesting, and he had the potential to be a good character. I don't know if I'm actually mad, or if I'm just not looking forward to the hundred identical "this proves Toei/Toriyama are creatively bankrupt" I'll have to read in the coming months. I mean, Goku Black turned out fine. So did Golden Frieza. This can still be good. Right? Right?

[MetaMoss]

Man, the salt is real over here. I'm pretty excited, because we're gonna get "Toriyama does a Broly reboot", and I think that will be at least decent. I've always enjoyed the idea of Broly, but the problem is he ends up being executed as a Super Saiyan Hulk with even less personality. I'm really curious to see how Toriyama makes him work.