Official On-Going Dragon Ball Super Movie Thread: "Broly"

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Re: Official On-Going Dragon Ball Super Movie Thread: "Broly"

Post by Miracles » Thu Oct 17, 2019 10:22 pm

WittyUsername wrote:
Thu Oct 17, 2019 7:25 pm
Miracles wrote:
Thu Oct 17, 2019 6:44 pm
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Thu Oct 17, 2019 6:24 pm


Goku was never really ashamed of his Saiyan heritage to begin with, at least not in the case of the manga. Toei were the ones who had him say things like “I ain’t a Saiyan, I’m an Earthling” and “I’m not Kakarotto, I’m Son Goku!”
Goku never really acknowledged his Saiyan heritage. First time ever he has referred to himself as "Kakarot." He showed some pride in it after witnessing Broly's might, a Saiyan.
I will acknowledge that this is the first time I can think of where he’s referred to himself by his Saiyan name, but even as far back as the Saiyan saga, he had no problem informing Kaio of his Saiyan heritage, and he even used the fact that he’s a Saiyan to justify his desire to fight Vegeta again. Then, of course, there was that time he delivered a whole speech to Freeza about how he’s become the legendary Super Saiyan.
Yeah but it's something different when Goku uses his birth name. He finally really owns it.
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Re: Official On-Going Dragon Ball Super Movie Thread: "Broly"

Post by Hulk10 » Fri Oct 18, 2019 4:09 pm

I find it hard to believe that Vampa has no sources of water.
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Re: Official On-Going Dragon Ball Super Movie Thread: "Broly"

Post by WittyUsername » Fri Oct 18, 2019 5:59 pm

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I find it hard to believe that Vampa has no sources of water.
There was quite a bit of laughing in the screening I went to when Broly asked what water is.

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Re: Official On-Going Dragon Ball Super Movie Thread: "Broly"

Post by Hulk10 » Fri Oct 18, 2019 6:42 pm

WittyUsername wrote:
Fri Oct 18, 2019 5:59 pm
Hulk10 wrote:
Fri Oct 18, 2019 4:09 pm
I find it hard to believe that Vampa has no sources of water.
There was quite a bit of laughing in the screening I went to when Broly asked what water is.
Yeah? I'm not the only one who understands that water is incredibly important.
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Re: Official On-Going Dragon Ball Super Movie Thread: "Broly"

Post by WittyUsername » Fri Oct 18, 2019 6:48 pm

Hulk10 wrote:
Fri Oct 18, 2019 6:42 pm
WittyUsername wrote:
Fri Oct 18, 2019 5:59 pm
Hulk10 wrote:
Fri Oct 18, 2019 4:09 pm
I find it hard to believe that Vampa has no sources of water.
There was quite a bit of laughing in the screening I went to when Broly asked what water is.
Yeah? I'm not the only one who understands that water is incredibly important.
A character not knowing what water is does seem like the kind of ridiculous thing you’d expect from a gag writer like Toriyama, except that in the case of this movie, it obviously wasn’t meant to be played for laughs. I guess we’re supposed to assume that those spider things contained enough fluids to keep Broly and Paragus from dehydrating.

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Re: Official On-Going Dragon Ball Super Movie Thread: "Broly"

Post by Hulk10 » Fri Oct 18, 2019 7:04 pm

WittyUsername wrote:
Fri Oct 18, 2019 6:48 pm
Hulk10 wrote:
Fri Oct 18, 2019 6:42 pm
WittyUsername wrote:
Fri Oct 18, 2019 5:59 pm


There was quite a bit of laughing in the screening I went to when Broly asked what water is.
Yeah? I'm not the only one who understands that water is incredibly important.
A character not knowing what water is does seem like the kind of ridiculous thing you’d expect from a gag writer like Toriyama, except that in the case of this movie, it obviously wasn’t meant to be played for laughs. I guess we’re supposed to assume that those spider things contained enough fluids to keep Broly and Paragus from dehydrating.
Well yeah....... That's obvious.
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Re: Official On-Going Dragon Ball Super Movie Thread: "Broly"

Post by FortuneSSJ » Sun Oct 20, 2019 11:03 am

Still waiting for the extended version of this. If BOG and ROF can have it, there's no reason why the most successful DB movie ever can't have it too. The main focus should be the saiyans backstory which was rushed.
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Re: Official On-Going Dragon Ball Super Movie Thread: "Broly"

Post by Miracles » Sun Oct 20, 2019 8:21 pm

FortuneSSJ wrote:
Sun Oct 20, 2019 11:03 am
Still waiting for the extended version of this. If BOG and ROF can have it, there's no reason why the most successful DB movie ever can't have it too. The main focus should be the saiyans backstory which was rushed.
Yeah, no reason why they shouldn't have an extended version of DBS Broly. Since plenty of Toriyama's script for the story was cut down.
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Re: Official On-Going Dragon Ball Super Movie Thread: "Broly"

Post by Noah » Wed Oct 23, 2019 3:47 pm

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I have to give Toriyama his props for making Broly a powerhouse. Keeping his "legendary" legend status alive from the old movies. To be able to go head up with fusion, the strongest components in DB is something to write home to mom about. Then being compared to the protagonists most powerful, future rival, in Beerus, cements his ferocity even more. I just re watched it, it was pretty fun.
Funny to note that if wasn't Toriyama name in it, how many people would find ludicrous to have another Saiyan character with the same bullsh*t "prodigy" excuses that came from RoF movie that surpasses both Goku and Vegeta who busted their asses training for decades to be at the God Realm :lol:
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Re: Official On-Going Dragon Ball Super Movie Thread: "Broly"

Post by Dbzfan94 » Wed Oct 23, 2019 7:57 pm

Noah wrote:
Wed Oct 23, 2019 3:47 pm
Miracles wrote:
Sat Oct 05, 2019 3:56 pm
I have to give Toriyama his props for making Broly a powerhouse. Keeping his "legendary" legend status alive from the old movies. To be able to go head up with fusion, the strongest components in DB is something to write home to mom about. Then being compared to the protagonists most powerful, future rival, in Beerus, cements his ferocity even more. I just re watched it, it was pretty fun.
Funny to note that if wasn't Toriyama name in it, how many people would find ludicrous to have another Saiyan character with the same bullsh*t "prodigy" excuses that came from RoF movie that surpasses both Goku and Vegeta who busted their asses training for decades to be at the God Realm :lol:
This is a good point. :lol:

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Re: Official On-Going Dragon Ball Super Movie Thread: "Broly"

Post by Miracles » Thu Oct 24, 2019 8:10 pm

Noah wrote:
Wed Oct 23, 2019 3:47 pm
Miracles wrote:
Sat Oct 05, 2019 3:56 pm
I have to give Toriyama his props for making Broly a powerhouse. Keeping his "legendary" legend status alive from the old movies. To be able to go head up with fusion, the strongest components in DB is something to write home to mom about. Then being compared to the protagonists most powerful, future rival, in Beerus, cements his ferocity even more. I just re watched it, it was pretty fun.
Funny to note that if wasn't Toriyama name in it, how many people would find ludicrous to have another Saiyan character with the same bullsh*t "prodigy" excuses that came from RoF movie that surpasses both Goku and Vegeta who busted their asses training for decades to be at the God Realm :lol:
The same ones who bought classic privileged DBZ Broly being way above the working SSJ class of Goku and Vegeta without Toriyama's name on it.

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Re: Official On-Going Dragon Ball Super Movie Thread: "Broly"

Post by Noah » Thu Oct 24, 2019 10:44 pm

Miracles wrote:
Sat Oct 05, 2019 3:56 pm
The same ones who bought classic privileged DBZ Broly being way above the working SSJ class of Goku and Vegeta without Toriyama's name on it. :clap:
Don't know what are you trying to say lol

It was easy to bought Broly's power back then, the "Legendary Super Saiyan" was something vague before his debut. The movie story explaining that the old legend told back was in fact true and he was the warrior who came after 1,000 years wasn't something that farfetched yet.

What is farfetched is to him to come on the actual timeline: thirteen years after both Goku and Vegeta had surpassed their common SSJ transformations. Movie 8 Broly was not even a SSJ2-tier.
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Re: Official On-Going Dragon Ball Super Movie Thread: "Broly"

Post by Skar » Fri Oct 25, 2019 12:52 pm

Noah wrote:
Wed Oct 23, 2019 3:47 pm
Funny to note that if wasn't Toriyama name in it, how many people would find ludicrous to have another Saiyan character with the same bullsh*t "prodigy" excuses that came from RoF movie that surpasses both Goku and Vegeta who busted their asses training for decades to be at the God Realm :lol:
It was usually considered wanking when Broly or another prodigy Saiyan surpassed Goku and Vegeta (BT3's into with Broly fighting SSJ Gogeta, DBM's Broly, Xicor, Rigor, etc) :P. Toriyama's Broly surpasses all of these guys in about an hour! I've always liked the idea that Broly has the potential to surpass all of Goku and Vegeta's forms but you're usually called a Broly fanboy for thinking it's possible. I'm glad Toriyama did it to make it more acceptable.

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Re: Official On-Going Dragon Ball Super Movie Thread: "Broly"

Post by Miracles » Fri Oct 25, 2019 6:14 pm

Noah wrote:
Thu Oct 24, 2019 10:44 pm
Miracles wrote:
Sat Oct 05, 2019 3:56 pm
The same ones who bought classic privileged DBZ Broly being way above the working SSJ class of Goku and Vegeta without Toriyama's name on it. :clap:
Don't know what are you trying to say lol

It was easy to bought Broly's power back then, the "Legendary Super Saiyan" was something vague before his debut. The movie story explaining that the old legend told back was in fact true and he was the warrior who came after 1,000 years wasn't something that farfetched yet.

What is farfetched is to him to come on the actual timeline: thirteen years after both Goku and Vegeta had surpassed their common SSJ transformations. Movie 8 Broly was not even a SSJ2-tier.
Not when it was shown that as a baby Broly's battle power/potential is greater than Goku and Vegeta's. It was the same as the old DBZ Broly backstory, so it works for both.
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Re: Official On-Going Dragon Ball Super Movie Thread: "Broly"

Post by Hulk10 » Mon Oct 28, 2019 9:10 pm

Miracles wrote:
Fri Oct 25, 2019 6:14 pm
Noah wrote:
Thu Oct 24, 2019 10:44 pm
Miracles wrote:
Sat Oct 05, 2019 3:56 pm
The same ones who bought classic privileged DBZ Broly being way above the working SSJ class of Goku and Vegeta without Toriyama's name on it. :clap:
Don't know what are you trying to say lol

It was easy to bought Broly's power back then, the "Legendary Super Saiyan" was something vague before his debut. The movie story explaining that the old legend told back was in fact true and he was the warrior who came after 1,000 years wasn't something that farfetched yet.

What is farfetched is to him to come on the actual timeline: thirteen years after both Goku and Vegeta had surpassed their common SSJ transformations. Movie 8 Broly was not even a SSJ2-tier.
Not when it was shown that as a baby Broly's battle power/potential is greater than Goku and Vegeta's. It was the same as the old DBZ Broly backstory, so it works for both.
Hmm good point.
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