I'm happy that the last 3 fighters were not all saiyans

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I'm happy that the last 3 fighters were not all saiyans

Post by Lujin_16 » Thu Mar 29, 2018 4:18 pm

At the beginning of the tournament we all thought the last fighters of team 7 would be Goku,Vegeta and Gohan

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Post by FortuneSSJ » Thu Mar 29, 2018 4:34 pm

I wouldn't mind if it was Goku/Gohan/Freeza, but I'm glad with what we got. Goku/Gohan/Vegeta as the final three would be terrible though.
I also like how C17 was the winner, but Goku/Freeza were the ones that eliminated Jiren.
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Post by precita » Thu Mar 29, 2018 4:48 pm

I don't see what the big deal would be, the Buu saga had 5 Saiyans as the leads and it didn't matter.

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Post by Akyon » Thu Mar 29, 2018 4:52 pm

It's just nice to see something different once in a while. Pre tournament I doubt many guessed 17 would not only outlast Gohan but also Vegeta and even be the last man standing. I was expecting Frieza to make it to the final three alongside the no brainer Goku, but I couldn't decide if it was going to be Vegeta(because Super) or Gohan(because Toei made a bit of a big deal out of him in the recruitment episodes).
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Post by Torturephile » Thu Mar 29, 2018 8:26 pm

precita wrote:I don't see what the big deal would be, the Buu saga had 5 Saiyans as the leads and it didn't matter.
It was quite annoying to see Piccolo be turned into a babysitter.
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Post by CriticalThinker » Thu Mar 29, 2018 8:38 pm

That's why I liked the fight against Jiren as much as I did since we had two non saiyans play a big role in the final fight against the major boss of the arc. Now please correct me if I'm wrong but I can't remember or recall any other instance were a non saiyan has played a big role in the final fight. Now maybe I'll be wrong about this but I feel like we'll go right back to only saiyan characters being important in the final fights.

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Post by Logania » Thu Mar 29, 2018 9:09 pm

CriticalThinker wrote:That's why I liked the fight against Jiren as much as I did since we had two non saiyans play a big role in the final fight against the major boss of the arc. Now please correct me if I'm wrong but I can't remember or recall any other instance were a non saiyan has played a big role in the final fight. Now maybe I'll be wrong about this but I feel like we'll go right back to only saiyan characters being important in the final fights.
How could you forget the fight with Kid Buu, Goku wouldn't have won without THE WORLD CHAMPION MR. SATAN!

But besides him, I guess Yajirobe could technically count for getting rid of Vegeta's Great Ape form.
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Post by CriticalThinker » Thu Mar 29, 2018 9:22 pm

Logania wrote:
CriticalThinker wrote:That's why I liked the fight against Jiren as much as I did since we had two non saiyans play a big role in the final fight against the major boss of the arc. Now please correct me if I'm wrong but I can't remember or recall any other instance were a non saiyan has played a big role in the final fight. Now maybe I'll be wrong about this but I feel like we'll go right back to only saiyan characters being important in the final fights.
How could you forget the fight with Kid Buu, Goku wouldn't have won without THE WORLD CHAMPION MR. SATAN!

But besides him, I guess Yajirobe could technically count for getting rid of Vegeta's Great Ape form.
Damn I can't believe I forgot about the champs involvement in that fight, I don't even know if I can call myself a Dragon ball fan anymore for forgetting someone so important. Also yeah I guess it counts he was easily the MVP of that fight after all.

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Post by GreatSaiyaJeff » Thu Mar 29, 2018 9:43 pm

CriticalThinker wrote:That's why I liked the fight against Jiren as much as I did since we had two non saiyans play a big role in the final fight against the major boss of the arc. Now please correct me if I'm wrong but I can't remember or recall any other instance were a non saiyan has played a big role in the final fight. Now maybe I'll be wrong about this but I feel like we'll go right back to only saiyan characters being important in the final fights.
The final fight with Vegeta was Goku, Gohan, Krillin and Yajirobe. So half of the fighters were humans.
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Post by CriticalThinker » Thu Mar 29, 2018 10:09 pm

GreatSaiyaJeff wrote:
CriticalThinker wrote:That's why I liked the fight against Jiren as much as I did since we had two non saiyans play a big role in the final fight against the major boss of the arc. Now please correct me if I'm wrong but I can't remember or recall any other instance were a non saiyan has played a big role in the final fight. Now maybe I'll be wrong about this but I feel like we'll go right back to only saiyan characters being important in the final fights.
The final fight with Vegeta was Goku, Gohan, Krillin and Yajirobe. So half of the fighters were humans.
My memory is garbage and I didn't think of that when I first posted my comment. So yeah that's another good final fight that involved non saiyans.

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Post by Lionel » Thu Mar 29, 2018 10:29 pm

The gesture is appreciated, definitely. We haven't had a hands-on approach from non-Saiyans against the main antagonist since Vegeta in the Saiyan arc. All the same, while it is appreciated, I do have to confess to preferring others over the ones that were chosen. Freeza's return was executed very carefully and efficiently, but I feel that he wasn't absolutely necessary addition to the scene. Moreover, we all know the contentious lengths which had to be taken to rationalise #17 being included, let alone holding out all of the way until the end. I think when people were hoping to see the non-Saiyan fighters partake in some of the core action they were referring to the people whom we had been following for multiple arcs previously -- Piccolo, Tenshinhan, Krillin, Yamcha, ect. What was the end result was definitely on the bizarre side, I have to say.

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Post by GodKaio-Ken » Fri Mar 30, 2018 2:28 pm

To be fair even though Android 17 did win it really was more like Vegeta was one of the last three.

It's actually a positive. They gave Vegeta his moment but gave A17 a part to play.
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Post by SuperCyan2 » Fri Mar 30, 2018 4:19 pm

Yes, thank god for diversity in Super.
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Post by KingKaash » Sat Mar 31, 2018 12:08 am

I'm a Gohan fan but I don't mind at all that he wasn't one of the last 3 fighters from U7. It's a nice change up to see characters other than Saiyans fight a final battle
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Post by Spider-Man » Sat Mar 31, 2018 12:32 pm

It's nice to see other characters that isn't a Saiyan to fight the final battle.

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Post by omaro34 » Tue Apr 03, 2018 12:14 pm

Torturephile wrote:
precita wrote:I don't see what the big deal would be, the Buu saga had 5 Saiyans as the leads and it didn't matter.
It was quite annoying to see Piccolo be turned into a babysitter.
They should just write him off the show now. It's much better at this point. Humiliated by a bug, destroyed by chopsticks, one shotted by Tagoma, fodder in the U6 arc, background for Gohan, etc.

Have him go to Namek and become its protector and let him stay there in obscurity, if Super does come back in 2019.
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Post by Vegeta_Sama » Wed Apr 04, 2018 4:17 pm

omaro34 wrote:
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precita wrote:I don't see what the big deal would be, the Buu saga had 5 Saiyans as the leads and it didn't matter.
It was quite annoying to see Piccolo be turned into a babysitter.
They should just write him off the show now. It's much better at this point. Humiliated by a bug, destroyed by chopsticks, one shotted by Tagoma, fodder in the U6 arc, background for Gohan, etc.

Have him go to Namek and become its protector and let him stay there in obscurity, if Super does come back in 2019.
I'd rather him getting a cool moment/fight/role. They managed to make 17 relevant and popular, it shouldn't really be hard to do so with Piccolo, a character that most of the fandom likes.
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Post by Whatever » Wed Apr 04, 2018 5:03 pm

Vegeta_Sama wrote:
omaro34 wrote:
Torturephile wrote: It was quite annoying to see Piccolo be turned into a babysitter.
They should just write him off the show now. It's much better at this point. Humiliated by a bug, destroyed by chopsticks, one shotted by Tagoma, fodder in the U6 arc, background for Gohan, etc.

Have him go to Namek and become its protector and let him stay there in obscurity, if Super does come back in 2019.
I'd rather him getting a cool moment/fight/role. They managed to make 17 relevant and popular, it shouldn't really be hard to do so with Piccolo, a character that most of the fandom likes.
For that to happen that means Toriyama must stop going out of his way to humiliate Piccolo,he is the one responsible for Piccolo's bad treatment(outside of his treatment in the anime arc of rof),then again you could make a case of Toriyama having killed Piccolo both as a fighter and as a character since the Buu arc,everything after that is just beating up his corpse.

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Post by namekiansaiyan » Sun Apr 08, 2018 10:29 am

omaro34 wrote:
Torturephile wrote:
precita wrote:I don't see what the big deal would be, the Buu saga had 5 Saiyans as the leads and it didn't matter.
It was quite annoying to see Piccolo be turned into a babysitter.
They should just write him off the show now. It's much better at this point. Humiliated by a bug, destroyed by chopsticks, one shotted by Tagoma, fodder in the U6 arc, background for Gohan, etc.

Have him go to Namek and become its protector and let him stay there in obscurity, if Super does come back in 2019.
Just send Piccolo to Universe 6 Namek when Goku and Vegeta go to Planet Sadala. He can train with them for some time and then come back in a future arc. Toriyama can just say that Universe 6 Namek had some new training methods that only the best Namekians can do.

I'm still waiting for something Namekian related in the Namekian Book of Legends.

He definitely needs to go somewhere as current Piccolo is just made to look ridiculous most of the time compared to how they used to treat him.

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