Very happy to see Toyotaro keeping the official timeline and ages consistent for once!

[GodVegetto91]

Spoiler:

That’s the one thing i liked the most about this chapter! Back in the old days, the Daizenshuu (was it that one? Don’t remember) listed the attack of the Kaioshin’s by Majin Buu back to be around 5 million before age
(5 million years ago).

And that’s exactly how it should be, and the way i like it!

But then years later, Akira Toriyama just had to fuck shit up again. Because, you know, it’s Toriyama who forgets everything and retcons the hell out of shit all the time. In a fairly recent interview he stated that the lifespan of a Kaioshin (Not Kaio’s!) is just 75.000 years! Well that’s the same age as the regular Kaio’s! But we know East Kaioshin has been around since Majin Buu’s attack on the Kaioshin’s 5 million years back! So that logically makes East Kaioshin 5 million years old aswell. Exactly as it should be. And than ofcourse we have the Old Kaioshin who is 15 generations before this one. Thus making him 75 million years old. Perfect! Lets just keep it that way.

So since Toriyama decided to fuck with their ages again in order to downplay the Kaioshin’s. I’ve lost all hope..

Until now. Toyo finally does a good job, and has redeemed himself!

[Grimlock]

But then you remember he came up with "one day passes in the present, one day passes in the future" thus fucking up with the AGES already established.

[Rakurai]

But then you remember he came up with "one day passes in the present, one day passes in the future" thus fucking up with the AGES already established.

Toriyama already did that timeline fucking up before Toyotarou established that notion from what I understand.

The only age ever stated in the manga was Age 788, the age from which Cell came.

[Rakurai]

Also, let's not expect Toriyama to be consistent with his own story anymore. He can't remember things from the manga that he drew over 20 years ago. He can't even be consistent with his own recount of past events in modern DB.

[Grimlock]

Toriyama already did that timeline fucking up before Toyotarou established that notion from what I understand.

Yes, but all the future timeline and when the events take place are wrong if we go by Toyotaro's logic.

The only age ever stated in the manga was Age 788, the age from which Cell came.

Yeah, the guidebooks made the timeline based on that single year. It did make perfectly sense prior to all the Dragon Ball Super nonsense.

[Saturnine]

You seem awully fixated on this one thing. "Losing all hope" just because Toriyama can't remember some dates? Really, there's more to the series than that.

[BWri]

You seem awully fixated on this one thing. "Losing all hope" just because Toriyama can't remember some dates? Really, there's more to the series than that.

It ruins immersion when you can't trust the series you're reading to keep events and basic details intact. When this happens every once in a while, its okay but when it happens every arc and more frequently it does spoil even something you really like. For me when I was younger, the DB series was easily in my anime Top 5 (all time). Now, because I can't really take it seriously as a narrative, it can't even make it to Top 10 anymore. It's just mindless entertainment now, that's the only way I can enjoy it without being frustrated.

[Omori]

I agree and I'm also happy that Toyotarou referred to the event when Majin Buu absorbed DaiKaioshin perfectly with 5 million years ago.
And about Toriyama I also think that he recently doesn't get the ages right...

If you have seen the Broly movie,

Spoiler:

then you will notice two numbers making you scratch your head...
One event in the past, when Broly and Paragus ending up on Vampa happened 41 years ago, the destruction of Planet Vegeta 36 years ago...
And we are supposed to be Age 780 (?)...
If we assume Planet Vegeta was destroyed 739 + 36 we are in Age 775... meaning ONE year after the defeat of Buu..
I would have preferred they put the first events in 732 and the destruction in 737...

But still, 3.5 years on, where don't have official years for Super yet, right? Just going by Pans and Bras birth?
I think Xenoverse 2 mentioned 779 for Fukkatsu no F?

[Grimlock]

But still, 3.5 years on, where don't have official years for Super yet, right? Just going by Pans and Bras birth?

Universe 6 saga and Future Trunks saga both take place in AGE 779, established by Xenoverse.

I think Xenoverse 2 mentioned 779 for Fukkatsu no F?

Yes. Also, Movie 15's guidebook and the old version of the official Dragon Ball SSSS website place Movie 15 in AGE 779 as well.

[Omori]

Yes. Also, Movie 15's guidebook and the old version of the official Dragon Ball SSSS website place Movie 15 in AGE 779 as well.

But ever since Super started, we never got any official "ages" again, if I'm not mistaken..

I think someone of the Dragon Ball Room should go through all the material together with Toriyama and establish events with years (and better even months..)..

[Grimlock]

Well, Dragon Ball Super started in 2015 and XV1 was released earlier that year and XV2 was released in 2016. I don't remember when the Dragon Ball SSSS was launched but I'm sure it was around that time too. I think they are enough of official information for AGES.

Establishing months would be chaotic. Hell, I ignore the ones already established (like Bulma's birthdate being in August, that would cause some trouble...). Having the events without a established month is easier and can solve many problems (as we can place and change when those events occur within a year so to avoid such problems).