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Ultra Instinct -Sign- In The Saiyan Saga...

Post by Steven Bloodriver » Sat Dec 29, 2018 4:25 pm

1) If Yamcha had unlocked Ultra Instinct -Sign- for the same amount of time Vegito Blue had existed in the Dragon Ball Super Anime upon the former Bandit being able to resist and thus endure a Saibaman Bomb this time around, how would you think Nappa, Vegeta, and the other Saibamen would react to this now reborn Yamcha coming after their asses?

2) If upon having taken the Super Galick Blaster of Great Ape Vegeta, Son Goku had been able to do a miracle and unlock Ultra Instinct -Sign-, for around 5 minutes, how would you think the confrontation between Ultra Instinct -Sign- Son Goku and Great Ape Vegeta would go?

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Re: Ultra Instinct -Sign- In The Saiyan Saga...

Post by Nickolaidas » Sat Dec 29, 2018 5:29 pm

Steven Bloodriver wrote:1) If Yamcha had unlocked Ultra Instinct -Sign- for the same amount of time Vegito Blue had existed in the Dragon Ball Super Anime upon the former Bandit being able to resist and thus endure a Saibaman Bomb this time around, how would you think Nappa, Vegeta, and the other Saibamen would react to this now reborn Yamcha coming after their asses?

2) If upon having taken the Super Galick Blaster of Great Ape Vegeta, Son Goku had been able to do a miracle and unlock Ultra Instinct -Sign-, for around 5 minutes, how would you think the confrontation between Ultra Instinct -Sign- Son Goku and Great Ape Vegeta would go?
1) The Saiyan duo would hardly feel a blow to their morale, considering how easy it was for Vegeta to kill a Saibaiman even back then. Nappa losing in two seconds would seriously do it though. And a UI Yamcha would kill Vegeta with a single punch, unless he would get cocky and be all defense until his UI runs out. Then it would more or less be canon - Vegeta would take out everyone other than Goku in ten seconds anyway.

2) UI Goku would easily crush Ape Vegeta, then send him away with a warning not to do bad things again.

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Re: Ultra Instinct -Sign- In The Saiyan Saga...

Post by Steven Bloodriver » Thu Jan 03, 2019 2:29 pm

Nickolaidas wrote:
Steven Bloodriver wrote:1) If Yamcha had unlocked Ultra Instinct -Sign- for the same amount of time Vegito Blue had existed in the Dragon Ball Super Anime upon the former Bandit being able to resist and thus endure a Saibaman Bomb this time around, how would you think Nappa, Vegeta, and the other Saibamen would react to this now reborn Yamcha coming after their asses?

2) If upon having taken the Super Galick Blaster of Great Ape Vegeta, Son Goku had been able to do a miracle and unlock Ultra Instinct -Sign-, for around 5 minutes, how would you think the confrontation between Ultra Instinct -Sign- Son Goku and Great Ape Vegeta would go?
1) The Saiyan duo would hardly feel a blow to their morale, considering how easy it was for Vegeta to kill a Saibaiman even back then. Nappa losing in two seconds would seriously do it though. And a UI Yamcha would kill Vegeta with a single punch, unless he would get cocky and be all defense until his UI runs out. Then it would more or less be canon - Vegeta would take out everyone other than Goku in ten seconds anyway.

2) UI Goku would easily crush Ape Vegeta, then send him away with a warning not to do bad things again.
1) Isn’t it at the least possible Ultra Instinct "Omen" Yamcha would have been much too fast for the likes of Nappa and/or Vegeta to try in securing a hostage among the other Z Fighters?

2) Do you think in this same scenario, Son Goku would have been able to tap into Ultra Instinct "Omen" again in the future like in the Captain Ginyu Saga, when up against the likes of Captain Ginyu himself once the last remaining member of the Ginyu Force had been tricked by Son Goku to return back into his original body and Son Goku had gotten back on his feet and tried to finish Captain Ginyu himself, but with this time around, instead of preparing a Super Kamehameha, Son Goku would unleash his Ultra Instinct "Omen" power before the completely and utterly terrified Captain Ginyu, or a little later, in the Frieza Saga, like when Son Goku was about to drown underwater because of the sadistic likes of Fourth Form Frieza (50% Maximum) had been preventing him from getting any air to breathe, instead of waking up and exploding out of the water in a rage in just his base form before unleashing his 20X Kaioken upon Fourth Form Frieza (50% Maximum), as a result of his body being pushed to it's limits, his Ultra Instinct "Omen" transformation would have awakened within him after waking himself up from his extremely strange nightmare?

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Re: Ultra Instinct -Sign- In The Saiyan Saga...

Post by SaintEvolution » Thu Jan 03, 2019 3:15 pm

Ultra Instinct can only be achieved with the Ki of the Gods. So, before Super, it would be impossible to every character to achieve it without the Ki of the gods.

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Re: Ultra Instinct -Sign- In The Saiyan Saga...

Post by SaiyanGod117 » Thu Jan 03, 2019 3:34 pm

SaintEvolution wrote:Ultra Instinct can only be achieved with the Ki of the Gods. So, before Super, it would be impossible to every character to achieve it without the Ki of the gods.
That would be a nice stipulation for the technique, but where was that said?

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Re: Ultra Instinct -Sign- In The Saiyan Saga...

Post by ironfist2020 » Thu Jan 03, 2019 8:28 pm

SaiyanGod117 wrote:
SaintEvolution wrote:Ultra Instinct can only be achieved with the Ki of the Gods. So, before Super, it would be impossible to every character to achieve it without the Ki of the gods.
That would be a nice stipulation for the technique, but where was that said?
Nowhere. Because its not true. Ultra instinct is simply movement by instinct thats it. Never it was said that you need god ki for it. Only that its a skill that usually only gods are able to achive

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Re: Ultra Instinct -Sign- In The Saiyan Saga...

Post by SaintEvolution » Thu Jan 03, 2019 8:48 pm

ironfist2020 wrote:
SaiyanGod117 wrote:
SaintEvolution wrote:Ultra Instinct can only be achieved with the Ki of the Gods. So, before Super, it would be impossible to every character to achieve it without the Ki of the gods.
That would be a nice stipulation for the technique, but where was that said?
Nowhere. Because its not true. Ultra instinct is simply movement by instinct thats it. Never it was said that you need god ki for it. Only that its a skill that usually only gods are able to achive
It was never said, but it was implicit. Goku also has the god Ki inside.

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Re: Ultra Instinct -Sign- In The Saiyan Saga...

Post by BWri » Sat Jan 05, 2019 2:23 am

SaintEvolution wrote:
ironfist2020 wrote:
SaiyanGod117 wrote: That would be a nice stipulation for the technique, but where was that said?
Nowhere. Because its not true. Ultra instinct is simply movement by instinct thats it. Never it was said that you need god ki for it. Only that its a skill that usually only gods are able to achive
It was never said, but it was implicit. Goku also has the god Ki inside.
How does that explain Roshi's prototype UI which even confounded Jiren?
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Re: Ultra Instinct -Sign- In The Saiyan Saga...

Post by ironfist2020 » Sat Jan 05, 2019 12:35 pm

SaintEvolution wrote:
ironfist2020 wrote:
SaiyanGod117 wrote: That would be a nice stipulation for the technique, but where was that said?
Nowhere. Because its not true. Ultra instinct is simply movement by instinct thats it. Never it was said that you need god ki for it. Only that its a skill that usually only gods are able to achive
It was never said, but it was implicit. Goku also has the god Ki inside.
so? i doubt that you need god ki to achive it because its not related whatsoever to god ki

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Re: Ultra Instinct -Sign- In The Saiyan Saga...

Post by SaintEvolution » Sat Jan 05, 2019 5:13 pm

BWri wrote:
SaintEvolution wrote:
ironfist2020 wrote:
Nowhere. Because its not true. Ultra instinct is simply movement by instinct thats it. Never it was said that you need god ki for it. Only that its a skill that usually only gods are able to achive
It was never said, but it was implicit. Goku also has the god Ki inside.
How does that explain Roshi's prototype UI which even confounded Jiren?
It was a prototype UI, and not the real one.
But, I need to say that Toyotaro really f*cked with the ToP arc in the manga with a lot of incoherences, so that can be just one more.
ironfist2020 wrote:
SaintEvolution wrote:
ironfist2020 wrote:
Nowhere. Because its not true. Ultra instinct is simply movement by instinct thats it. Never it was said that you need god ki for it. Only that its a skill that usually only gods are able to achive
It was never said, but it was implicit. Goku also has the god Ki inside.
so? i doubt that you need god ki to achive it because its not related whatsoever to god ki
That was not explained or exposed, but it's something you can deduce.

Also, you can deduce that UI is easeble to achieve being in the limit of life, as Goku was after being hitted by his own Genkidama.

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