From 1-10, How would you rate the Funimation Dub so far?

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From 1-10, How would you rate the Funimation Dub so far?

Post by shadd21 » Sun Mar 03, 2019 6:11 pm

With last night’s airing of episode 100 on Toonami, the majority of DBS has now been translated to English by Funimation. That said, how would you rate the Dub of series so far?

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Post by uncutpokemon » Sun Mar 03, 2019 6:32 pm

Not quite as good as Kai, but still great no less. 8-9/10 on rating.

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Post by Lord Beerus » Mon Mar 04, 2019 7:23 am

8.5

FUNimation are quite guilty of taking liberties when it come to translating and adapting the script -- just as they did with Kai -- the most egregious examples so far being Episode 71 (Time to make the donuts) and Episode 100 (the Legendary Super Saiyan), but the scripts have been mostly accurate and performances so far have been solid.

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Re: From 1-10, How would you rate the Funimation Dub so far?

Post by CJStriker_CBR » Mon Mar 04, 2019 8:35 am

9.5 of 10 Right Now for Me!

It is not only the Job IMO of an English dubing company to not only be faithful as possible to the source, but also to enhance what was originally done both in their dialogue choices and who they choose at the voice actors for each character.

What Funimation has done Key far better in this department is that they have carefully chosen their voice actors for each new character so Wisely and So Perfectly that they are like the MCU of Dub companies right now in actor choosing for roles!

They have chosen voices for not only the big name characters in the ToP but also nearly all the other fighters in the ToP no matter where they rank on importance of story or level, Funimation has chosen great actors and actresses for each role that enhances each characters presence, persona and effect they have on the ToP that feels Far beyond its original airing in Japan and that is rare for me to say!

The ToP arc by Funimation feels Far More Epic and the Voices portray the characters far more powerfully then I could have hoped for making this truly feel like a ToP with each character being a force unto themselves!

The only Part was making Sure that Funimation got the Perfectly Right Voice actors for characters like Kale, Caulifla and Brianne/Ribrianne for me and so far:

*Dawn Bennett as Kale! :angel:
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*Veronica Taylor as Brianne/Ribrianne!
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These Ladies Each have been not just perfect, but GODDESSES in How Amazing they have voice each lady and how they have not only kept close to the original persona's of each lady, but Enhanced them in their own unique ways that enhances each ladies persona that works for them Perfectly. Most anyone that is a fan of these Ladies have allot to be Happy and Proud about! :thumbup: :clap:

This is my View so far of Funimations ToP, up to episode 100.

What will determine IMO a Final Call on how it does will by how they Handle episodes 102, 103, 108, 109, The Kale, Caulifla, Kefla and Goku Fight episodes, 117 and Especially 118!

How not only the voice actresses do but what chooses of dialogue Funimation gives to the main cast in these episode will determine for me personally if the Funimation Dub did its job as well at they have done up to episode 100! :thumbup:

Only nitpicks keep me from so far giving it a perfect 10, but they are minor.
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Re: From 1-10, How would you rate the Funimation Dub so far?

Post by Kamiccolo9 » Mon Mar 04, 2019 12:30 pm

4.

The genuinely good new actors are dragged down by the subpar old cast, especially Schemmel, who has yet to deliver a single authintic bit of acting since he stumbled into the job.

If you exclude the pre-2016 or so cast, I give the acting an 8 or so. I'm no authority on the dialogue, so that's not factored here.
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Re: From 1-10, How would you rate the Funimation Dub so far?

Post by Ajay » Mon Mar 04, 2019 12:50 pm

About a 5 or 6.

By and large, the performances are fine, particularly the newcomers to the series. At this point, Funimation has a great pool of actors, and the old guard have long since learned to act.

Unfortunately, the decisions they keep making with the script are just such overt pandering to the old Toonami audience that we've taken a pretty large step back from Kai. By their own self-admission, their mentality is "Everyone watched it subbed, so we're just doing our thing". They defend that approach by saying they're not changing the story, but the results aren't too far removed the atmosphere of the Z dub. Those little changes and additions all add up to a vastly difference experience. That's not what dubbing is supposed to be.

I just can't in good conscience give a dub that spits out memes, uses text-to-speech, and attempts (and fails) to explain ambiguities anything higher than a 6.

At least the movies are still being treated exceptionally well! Broly's dub was fucking fantastic, the odd little thing aside. I think that's why it bugs me... they show me time and time again they can do better, and then they just don't (and it's intentional!). But hey, I shouldn't be surprised, people still eat up the old shit, so of course this is still going down well.
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Post by PremiumSalt » Mon Mar 04, 2019 1:22 pm

I'd give it an 8/10. For comparison, I'd give their Kai dub a 9/10, their OG DB dub a 6.5/10, and their Z dub a 2/10.

Acting wise, I'd say that not only is it up to par with Kai, it might even be slightly better. The thing that drags it down though is the changes that FUNi keeps throwing in, although frankly I don't think they're nearly as big a deal as some seem to think they are, and that comparing them to the ones they used to make back in the Z days is a bit absurd. They aren't rewriting entire scenes or completely altering characterizations, they're just throwing some jokes in here and there. Annoying? Yes. Terrible to the point that it makes the Super dub a bad dub? Not really.
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Re: From 1-10, How would you rate the Funimation Dub so far?

Post by OmegaRockman » Mon Mar 04, 2019 8:25 pm

If Kai is a 9, I'd say that Super is probably a 7.5 for me. The script is mostly accurate, but throwing in the additional meme lines brings things down a bit. It still mostly retains the spirit of the original, but they still throw in those lines a little too often for my taste. I also wasn't the biggest fan of them trying to overexplain the time travel stuff in the Future Trunks arc - from what I vaguely recall (forgive me, it's been a while), they just made things more convoluted.

Plus, it seems that some of the returning cast aren't performing quite as well as they could be - Schemmel and Sabat feel pretty strained in the serious/action scenes (they're still great in the chill scenes!), and Vale's Trunks really suffers from the raspiness. Schemmel and Sabat were great in Broly, though, so maybe it's the broadcast crunch getting to them. The new cast members are doing extremely well, though, so no big concerns there. The only genuinely bad decision they've made with the new characters is text-to-speech Magetta, which is relatively insignificant in the grand scheme of things. I'm also not big on the overly-filtered SSJ Blue screams. It just feels like too much. Just throw some basic reverb on it and call it a day.

Overall, I find the Super dub perfectly solid work, but it's a definite step back from Kai. I think anyone who watches the Super dub is getting a faithful representation of the show for the most part and I'll definitely recommend it, but I'd be lying if I said I wasn't at least a little disappointed. Thankfully the Broly dub was much closer to what I've come to expect from current Funi.

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Re: From 1-10, How would you rate the Funimation Dub so far?

Post by superfan2024 » Mon Mar 04, 2019 8:32 pm

It's alright. They just need to stop with all these meta jokes, try to eliminate these weird translations/inconsistencies that creep into the dub, and they need to stop overusing that voice-scream filter.

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Re: From 1-10, How would you rate the Funimation Dub so far?

Post by Kataphrut » Mon Mar 04, 2019 8:38 pm

I'd give it an 8. Solid acting from the old cast and new, and a good script mired by some occasional weird translation decisions. I don't think the much-ballyhooed "creative liberties" are anywhere near as egregious as they're made out to be. "Time to make the donuts" was a line crossed, that's about it.

It's a perfectly acceptable and enjoyable way to experience the series.

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Re: From 1-10, How would you rate the Funimation Dub so far?

Post by Amir » Tue Mar 05, 2019 10:26 am

8
My only problems are the terrible effects they use for screams and the fact they change way too much sometimes. Story itself is not damaged thankfully.

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Post by Baggie_Saiyan » Tue Mar 05, 2019 12:03 pm

I'll give it an 8 aswell.

Performances are great. But my main issues are that weird filter for screams (they have overused it a lot) and the inconsistent terminology, like going from "Senzu Bean" to "Senzu" and then back to "Senzu Bean", I don't have too much problems with terms as long as they are being consistently used.

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Post by SpiritBombTriumphant » Wed Mar 06, 2019 10:48 am

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Mon Mar 04, 2019 12:50 pm
About a 5 or 6.

Unfortunately, the decisions they keep making with the script are just such overt pandering to the old Toonami audience that we've taken a pretty large step back from Kai. By their own self-admission, their mentality is "Everyone watched it subbed, so we're just doing our thing". They defend that approach by saying they're not changing the story, but the results aren't too far removed the atmosphere of the Z dub. Those little changes and additions all add up to a vastly difference experience. That's not what dubbing is supposed to be.

I just can't in good conscience give a dub that spits out memes, uses text-to-speech, and attempts (and fails) to explain ambiguities anything higher than a 6.
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It is not only the Job IMO of an English dubing company to not only be faithful as possible to the source, but also to enhance what was originally done both in their dialogue choices and who they choose at the voice actors for each character.
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Re: From 1-10, How would you rate the Funimation Dub so far?

Post by ZombieVito » Wed Mar 06, 2019 6:27 pm

1.

The script changes and the awful depiction of some characters (Magetta being the biggest offender) makes this dub not worth it.

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Post by MajinMan » Thu Mar 14, 2019 6:02 am

I agree with the people that say the old actors are greatly outclassed by the newer ones. I personally can’t stand hearing Sabat’s Vegeta anymore. Personally, I’d give it like a 0 because I don’t care enough about the dub anymore to even consider watching it. But from what I’ve heard around the internet and from the few scenes and episodes I have happened to watch, it’s more like a 5 or 6 at best, and that’s me being generous.

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Re: From 1-10, How would you rate the Funimation Dub so far?

Post by RandomGuy96 » Fri Mar 15, 2019 7:21 pm

5-ish? Though I haven't really been watching it actively. Most of the newcomers are quite good and comprise a big chunk of the cast at this point; and while I don't like most of them I don't hate the old cast as much as some do (except Schemmel, who makes any Goku scene unbearable). The dialogue, from what I can tell of the subbed episodes I've seen, is reasonably accurate, but the constant usage of meta-jokes and memes is just painful. It immediately takes any viewer out of the experience and comes across as a desperate attempt at relevance.
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Post by 8000 Saiyan » Mon Mar 18, 2019 9:42 am

I haven't really watched the dub aside from a few clips, but considering Funimation has gone back to the way they used to write the scripts, by having some characters saying out of character stuff like Vegeta calling Bulma babe, Goku telling Goten that he's training in order to keep them safe or Gohan saying: "Gee dad, no pressure huh?", it looks I've done the right thing on not bothering with it, but then again, I don't really care for the dub.

The voice acting seems to be fine for the most part. I particularly like from what I've heard of Ray Hurd's Toppo and Elizabeth Maxwell's Caulifla. Getting Brian Drummond and Veronica Taylor was also a nice surprise. Aside from maybe Belmod, I don't think I've seen a clip where the voice acting was unbearable or excruciating, although Sean Schemmel was doing some weird, absurd noises after Zamasu told him that he killed Chi-Chi and Goten and Vale to this day still has that forced rasp for Trunks and I'm pretty sure McFarland will screw up that emotional Roshi scene with his annoying old man voice. I haven't heard most of James Marsters' Zamasu, but I'd believe those who say that he outperforms everyone in the dub.

The way they seem to be pandering to the Toonami crowd that grew up with the old Z dub just goes to show that after all these years, they can't be trusted to produce an accurate dub, with the exception of Kai.

So I guess I'm on the same realm as Ajay on this one.
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Re: From 1-10, How would you rate the Funimation Dub so far?

Post by Dragon Ball Ireland » Wed Mar 20, 2019 9:37 am

I would probably give it an 8. Apart from "time for me to make the donuts" the script changes are no where near as bad as some people make them out to be, but they do knock the dub down by a bit on accuracy. I've had very few issues with the voice acting though, I salute Chris Sabat for giving Brian Drummond a role, and James Marsters and Veronica Taylor were wonderful new additions to the cast, and I'm looking forward to us getting a lot more in future (hopefully).
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